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9w6vx 29 Jan 2024 14:33

I use booking.com and Agoda for my accommodation needs.

Booking was my preferred choice as I find the reviews are more genuine but I am going to use Agoda more often now.

Contacting Booking.com customer service is a nightmare.
Each email you send will be replied by some dumbwit who does not even bother to read the email contents and just sends a standard reply. And when you reply to the email from booking they will start all over again.
So frustrating!

Gecko 29 Jan 2024 15:06

I stopped using Tripadvisor quite a while back. After some very bad experiences travelling in Scotland where the Tripadvisor information was just plain wrong. I learned subsequently just how important their advertising revenue is to them. There's far too many fake reviews on it and paid advertisments masquerading as independent reviews.

In addition I know first hand that Tripadvisor just don't react to complaints about their content. I had a freind who ran a restaurant and he got some awful accusations of food poisoning against his place on Tripadvisor. We tracked down the new user who posted it and it was identified as a local competitor. Tripadvisor were given all the information but did nothing and wouldn't remove the lies posted by the other person. All I'd say is there are much better options out there than Tripadvisor IMHO.

chris 29 Jan 2024 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Johnson (Post 636455)
The software automatically removes bounced email addresses. The Community lists are checked that there are valid email addresses in them. Given there are 800+ Communities that doesn't happen often. :( But many people report great success, and I often see excellent replies when replying to "all", and thanks too. Nothing is perfect...

"Sorry, the Community listings are currently closed
We have jast moved the entire website to a new server, and the mailing list system is completely different. So, we have a very significant rebuild of the old system to the new system, and while we expected it could take a couple or three weeks, it's taking much longer. With any luck the Community lists will be back soon.

In an emergency, write me, Grant, directly, and I can write to the Community members directly for you. Be sure to tell me which Community you want to contact - basically, roughly where / what area.

Thanks for your patience while we work through the massive task of moving and adjusting / editing 250,000 files, plus massive databases!

Grant and Susan"

How are things progressing?



PS.

Re Booking.com reviews

Try this one for size: 11 x on the same day by the same illiterate user at 10/10... Someone else left a recent review :) and complained about the place. Nothing was done...

https://www.booking.com/Share-WP7QPk

https://www.booking.com/Share-WP7QPk

fahmi bayacob 30 Jan 2024 09:49

well if you want free accomodation find gas station that has a yard that simple

Turbofurball 30 Jan 2024 12:44

After the initial email I've never received anything from the HU system ... and we'd be happy to put people up and/or show them some of the cool places to ride near us

Grant Johnson 30 Jan 2024 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 640312)
"Sorry, the Community listings are currently closed
We have jast moved the entire website to a new server, and the mailing list system is completely different. So, we have a very significant rebuild of the old system to the new system, and while we expected it could take a couple or three weeks, it's taking much longer. With any luck the Community lists will be back soon.

In an emergency, write me, Grant, directly, and I can write to the Community members directly for you. Be sure to tell me which Community you want to contact - basically, roughly where / what area.

Thanks for your patience while we work through the massive task of moving and adjusting / editing 250,000 files, plus massive databases!

Grant and Susan"

How are things progressing?


Slowly. :(
I need a volunteer with nothing to do to manually create 700+ communities in the new system, about 6-8 minutes each. Yes that's around 90 hours, which is why it's not yet done.
Again, write me direct to contact a Community and I'll forward.

Turbofurball 31 Jan 2024 08:18

I'd be happy to do 2-3 hours a week to help out, I have form for this sort of thing. Can it definitely not be automated?

9w6vx 31 Jan 2024 15:04

Likewise, I don't mind helping out if I can be of assistance.

I will be wrapping up my Sumatra tour next week and flying back home.

:scooter:

Grant Johnson 2 Feb 2024 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbofurball (Post 640361)
I'd be happy to do 2-3 hours a week to help out, I have form for this sort of thing. Can it definitely not be automated?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9w6vx (Post 640374)
Likewise, I don't mind helping out if I can be of assistance.

I will be wrapping up my Sumatra tour next week and flying back home.

:scooter:


Thanks guys! I need to look closely at that idea, but I think it might be possible - there are privacy and security considerations here. :) I'll get back asap in PM and here.

Turbofurball 2 Feb 2024 08:04

Fair enough, my official security clearance is about 10 years out of date so the best I could do these days is sign an NDA and photograph it with my passport or something.

Grant Johnson 7 Feb 2024 22:55

After a bunch of fruitless exercises, I have come round to the conclusion that this is going to be me. It can't be done without full admin access to the server, and obviously that's a bad idea to give to anyone, especially over a long period of time. There is no way to admin the lists only, which is enormously stupid and frustrating.:(
Thanks for the offers of help, it's greatly appreciated. I'll keep your offers in mind for future!

Erik_G 8 Feb 2024 00:57

Accomondation in South America
 
For me it often works better to talk to people, than using apps.

Google maps shows if there are villages or not.
If there is a village, I ride to the plaza that all villages has in the middle of the town. Park the bike and walk a loop around the plaza: Often there are accomondation there. Else I talk to people and ask. And I very often get help.
There are so much more than what is in apps.

In Europe I camp. Ues google maps and looking for signs.

Also the GPS has both hotels and camping sites that I can search for.

9w6vx 8 Feb 2024 01:16

@grant johnson,

No worries!

:scooter:

Turbofurball 8 Feb 2024 08:41

Grant - That's a pity, the offer stands should you ever find a way around it! Still, these days it's better to make an effort to keep people's details secured wherever possible and I'm glad you're taking that seriously :)

chris 8 Feb 2024 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Johnson (Post 640540)
After a bunch of fruitless exercises, I have come round to the conclusion that this is going to be me. It can't be done without full admin access to the server, and obviously that's a bad idea to give to anyone, especially over a long period of time. There is no way to admin the lists only, which is enormously stupid and frustrating.:(
Thanks for the offers of help, it's greatly appreciated. I'll keep your offers in mind for future!

Seems like a huge pita to migrate data from server to server.

What about starting again from scratch? Like on the Advrider tentspace thread connected to a Google (my?)maps page.

Invite, via email, previous hosts to complete their up to date details again regarding what they're "offering" (accommodation, coffee, road side assistance etc). The map will grow embrionicly. And has a fighting chance of being up to date. Case in point the Ho Chi Minh City HUBB person I contacted last winter who had moved to a different Vietnamese town more than 10 years previously!



Hence nothing to do with your server and HU hosts do the "work". A trusted volunteer/s could "man"/"woman" it with few security issues.

Humourous annecdote?: My advrider tentspace pin disappeared off the map around the time, during covid, that I edited my contribution that I insisted that anyone I helped had to show me their vaccine certificate before I would help them (because of health concerns for myself). :clap:


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