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davebetty 3 Mar 2015 08:44

how many bog rolls?
 
A difficult question to broach the subject on, but of more importance than the numbere of Jihadists about, so here we go.... Do most toilets have bog roll? If not is there something to clean up your nipsy with? Just not looking forward to doing it with my hand.

Also I don't want to be transporting lots of bog roll if the porcelain shed is actually 5*. I've read all about burning bum wad in the desert areas if it needs to be done in the dunes.

Sorry if this is all a bit unpleasant, but Its playing on my mind. Its also a bit funny!

chris 3 Mar 2015 08:58

:D :rofl:

Big Yellow Tractor 3 Mar 2015 09:40

I buy some of the little packs of Kleenex tissues (about the size of a 10 pack of fags) Just about right for a turnout if there's no bogroll.

I always stash them in various places; jacket pocket, tankbag, rucsack, etc. That way, I don't have to remember where they are when my mental capacity is impaired by the urgent need to unload.

TheWarden 3 Mar 2015 09:51

Much more important than extremists

Being in a 4x4 I have the luxury or being ably to carry a family size multipack of Andrex's finest quilted deluxe products :D

davebetty 3 Mar 2015 10:42

I'll follow you then!

Some interesting bits of infomations there, but we still haven't got to the 'turtles' head of the questions. :rolleyes2:

Is there any bog roll in the aveage Moroccan poo poo parlour?

And a crime worse than anything is highwaymaning away the toilet roll from an already lacking facility. Shame on you......:nono:

Bones667 3 Mar 2015 11:02

Its even worse if you're touching cloth with a squirril's head popping out for his nuts... especially if you cant find a suitable place to to stop and unload!

Believe me I was caught out a few years back with no bog roll and a deli belly... (pants were used in emergancy to swipe and wipe) doh .. and before you ask yes I did bin them afterwards!!

I always carry bog roll / tissue nowadays...

priffe 3 Mar 2015 11:21

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Keith1954 3 Mar 2015 11:32

Personally speaking, I never ride anywhere without my portable bidet.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-j...-jd6MZhR-S.jpg

So cool (.. up yer orifice) :thumbup:
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Chris Scott 3 Mar 2015 12:55

Quote:

Is there any bog roll in the aveage Moroccan poo poo parlour?
To answer your question: if it's upmarket hotel or likely to be used by foreign tourists then yes. Some basic hotels give you a roll with your room key.

If not or a basic roadside cafe then less likely.
Not need to bring more than 1 bog roll (until you get the runs).
Just harvest from toilets/hotels + resto napkins as you go.

davebetty 3 Mar 2015 13:14

Well, thats an interesting morning of enlightenment. 1 (semi sacred) bog roll and a few packs of tissues added to the list.

Thanks for the 'interesting comments'.

I was a tad worried about riding around with a 12 pack of bum wad strapped to the top of the top box. That woud not look like a seasoned traveller and would create far too many diversionary questions.

It would look very funny though!!!!!

:9898::9898::9898::hammer:

Benny_76 3 Mar 2015 16:12

Back in the 90's I was working in London with a few of my mates, we were having a couple of after work pints in a pub, down by Warwick Gardens, the Radnor Arms I think it was called. Anyway, my mate nips to the crapper and returns ten minutes later, on his way past the bar he points out to the barman that there is no sh*t roll in the bog, he sits back down not too happy about the situation, before I could say anything he put his feet back up on the stool in front of him and I noticed he was only wearing one sock. I've never laughed so much in my life.

So my advice is always pack and extra pair of socks.

g6snl 3 Mar 2015 18:29

:rofl: thanks for making my day! I have had a shit day and this cheered my up.

Nothing worse than rushing in with an explosive situation to find there's no clean up tools after the event. I would never ditch my socks! .... but pants have been left about various places.

I usually avoid carrying any of that super soft quilted type stuff as it might look bigger and more volume but often has less mileage in the roll. Some of the cheaper recycled stuff squashes flat and packs down well and has more mileage. But to be honest I can't say I have ever had trouble finding anything suitable in Morocco in even quite small towns.

As to how many you carry ? Well that depends on many factors, mainly related to size of exit area, consistency of :9898: exited material etc..... Far too many factors to give a fail safe answer. You could start a poll perhaps, should you feel the need, but you would have to include variables and process the data to match your personal circumstances to obtain the most accurate answer.

Tim Cullis 3 Mar 2015 20:25

Forget toilet rolls, just take some packs of wet wipes. These are useful also for cleaning your hands before eating, cleaning the bike headlight/mirrors/indicators, and all sort of other things.

TheWarden 3 Mar 2015 22:56

Wet Wipes/Baby wipes - certainly one of the most important items in any overlanders kit.......................yet strangely lacking from most discussions

Even us 4x4 drivers will have a pack somewhere, and if someone says they don't they are lying :)

davebetty 3 Mar 2015 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 497329)
Forget toilet rolls, just take some packs of wet wipes. These are useful also for cleaning your hands before eating, cleaning the bike headlight/mirrors/indicators, and all sort of other things.

Wet wipes do sound so very symapathetic to the nipsal cause so I might just ditch the bog roll and go for the WW option but with an ecomonical twist. Keep the bridges standing until you really have to set them aflame. At that point your bum will be looking like the arse end ot the batmoblie anyway, so make a show!

I feel bad that I have made fun of toilet problems in Marroc, but I had to know, and in the end, toilet jokes are just funny!

go easy one and all!


:DDave

ridetheworld 4 Mar 2015 01:50

Using wetwipes has been a revelation to me! Amazing for a "gentlemens wash" every evening or morning. Woudn't leave home without them.

jquinton 4 Mar 2015 11:57

Can always buy the flat packs of toilet paper, nice and small and can be used to blow nose etc where wet wipes can not be used, pack of both was my choice.

Bones667 4 Mar 2015 13:38

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What a crap job the poor old bog roll has to do....

g6snl 4 Mar 2015 21:38

Test first !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davebetty (Post 497357)
Wet wipes do sound so very symapathetic to the nipsal cause so I might just ditch the bog roll

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridetheworld (Post 497368)
Using wetwipes has been a revelation to me! Amazing for a "gentlemens wash" every evening or morning. Woudn't leave home without them.

A word of warning about WW DON'T GET THE ONES I FOUND MADE IN RUSSIA. They were a bloody revelation for sure. I reckon they were for "hard surface cleaning" doh F*** knows what was in them, made me hop around! :oops2:

Bones667 5 Mar 2015 11:50

Sounds like you may have used those Domestos type toilet wipes but printed in Russian :helpsmilie: ... reminds me of that song... burn burn burn, the ring of fire, the ring of fire :rofl:

and after reading this great thread a little humour via a poem ...

On a bike in Morroco a man had to go
So he stopped at a toilet with no bog roll on show

Now what should he do you hasten to ask
So off came his boot and his sock wiped his arse

Remember in future to carry some spares
As it’s rather unpleasant when poo clings to the hairs

When the deed is all done you get back on your bike
Then ride to a shop for a pack of wet wipes..

You stop somewhere quiet with a wet wipe in hand
To have a good clean up …avoiding the sand

Please ensure you avoid any grit
As it may become painful when you next have a shiiiit!

Boom Boom - sorry Mr Moderator :mchappy:

ridetheworld 5 Mar 2015 12:11

Tim, reminds me of the trip a mate of mine went home a bit worse for wear after a night out and brushed his teeth with his mums hair removal cream left carelessly next to the colgate :nuke:

colebatch 5 Mar 2015 13:05

Wet wipes win over bog rolls. baby wipes are everywhere in the world.

c-m 8 Mar 2015 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by colebatch (Post 497529)
Wet wipes win over bog rolls. baby wipes are everywhere in the world.

But they need to be padded out with some bog roll or other tissue since they lack bulk and are porous.

dommiek 8 Mar 2015 22:38

....what's wrong with going native???
Just remenber to use the right hand which of course is the left hand.:thumbup1:

I always carry a few small bottles of alcohol hand wash to use when caught out and before eating; they're small, light and easy to pack away or tuck into a small pocket.

*Touring Ted* 8 Mar 2015 22:42

If all else fails.



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gplhl 11 Mar 2015 05:03

They do sell toilet roll in Morocco

TheWarden 11 Mar 2015 08:47

shhh don't tell them its a secret ;)

mossproof 15 Mar 2015 22:14

Wet wipes block sewers! They don't break down like toilet paper and I'd guess they're not as biodegradable? Certainly harder to set light to too!

TwoUpFront 15 Mar 2015 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossproof (Post 498675)
Wet wipes block sewers! They don't break down like toilet paper and I'd guess they're not as biodegradable? Certainly harder to set light to too!

Nothing a quarter gallon of petrol won't cure. :innocent:









(no, I don't use wet wipes, nor petrol to start a fire - and I rarely start a fire at all)

c-m 15 Mar 2015 22:18

These days they make moist toilet tissue in wet wipe style packets. That if flushable.

I doubt that's a big concern in the back end of nowhere though.

chris 15 Mar 2015 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossproof (Post 498675)
Wet wipes block sewers! They don't break down like toilet paper and I'd guess they're not as biodegradable? Certainly harder to set light to too!

Do arts degrees block sewers?

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:smartass:

samyonboard 17 Apr 2015 15:15

Ha! I will just tell you one thing: Once you get used to the left hand and the water, you will really appreciate that system (Millions of people use that everyehere, none has died from it as far as I know).

So here's my 2 tricks:

#1 Take a haf litre or 75 Bottle (I personally use Oxygen Water ones from the petrol station because of the squirt-lid they come with) full (FULL FULL) with water. If you use a normal water bottle, have a lid with a small hole in it (your leatherman tool will help you with that) as you done with your business aim at your anus holding the bottle in your right hand and sqqueeze firmly. The spray will take away some firm bits that may still hang about there. Then rub with your left while still sprinkling water. This is a way gentler way to get yourself clean as smearing your poo up and down your crack with paper. Especially when you have some problems and need to go very often it prevents you from getting rash quite effectively.

#2 Sprinkle a little water before you squeeze that brick out, poo won't stick on a wet surface ;-) means easyer clean afterwards. Try this at home, wet or not , the first swipe with paper will tell you the difference (do that over a couple of sessions, it convinced me 100%.)


Bad thing about toilet paper in desert climates: for the lack of moisture it won't decompose as quickly as it would at home... so take a lighter to torch it if you feel like you must use paper. Mini torches used for soldering do a good job here. Wind will uncover your business sooner or later and the paper will fly... :thumbdown:


I promise this will change your life! (And it's good for nature too. Guess the bog roll industry won't approve but immagine the Impact worldwide. No more use for bog roll... No more pollution in production and disposal... )

TwoUpFront 17 Apr 2015 15:32

Millions of people have died worldwide because of diseases in fecal matter.

Unless you wear single-use gloves, make sure to use a lot of alcohol and/or soap and water to desinfect those fingers after you have "massaged" the bunghole.

Tony LEE 17 Apr 2015 19:27

Read recently that a fatwa has been issued allowing Muslims to use toilet paper.

I don't imagine that will mean paper will be available in toilets all over the world but that won't matter because all over the world, toilet paper is NOT routinely supplied. Bring your own ALWAYS because then and only then will you always have toilet paper.

BTW toilet paper is readily available in even little village stores all over Morocco, albeit in smaller rolls than in the west.

Just remember to put the used paper in the bin since most sewer systems can't handle paper

Using water?? Yes, can just imagine that at 4am in Patagonia - outside the tent, pitch black, below freezing and wind at Force 5. You will need one hand just to hold on to a tree to stop from being blown away.

c-m 17 Apr 2015 19:48

I'm in Morocco now, and a combination of wet wipes and toilet tissue works well.

All hotels will have western toilets, it's just the places you might stop at along the way, or if out on the piste.

Carry some alcohol gel, many bathrooms down have soap.

davebetty 17 Apr 2015 20:43

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Look what I have been given....

The branding is interesting but the operation of the product may be made a little harder.

Would of been easier if there was a captain brown, or something like that!

samyonboard 18 Apr 2015 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoUpFront (Post 502027)
Millions of people have died worldwide because of diseases in fecal matter.

Unless you wear single-use gloves, make sure to use a lot of alcohol and/or soap and water to desinfect those fingers after you have "massaged" the bunghole.

The bottle placed facing downwards etween your knees squeezing it provides the outdoor "sink"... wash your hands after having used the Bathroom was standard to me and I thoght it's quite common... So for you TwoUpFront:

#3 After going to the toilet, WASH YOUR HANDS!


(Alcohol is not needed, thats western germ paranoia. If this was dangerous, there wouldn't be more ppl in India than in europe and USA combined ;-) ) (yess, I googled it, wikipedia confirms those numbers...)

Diseases of facal matter (Cholera and the like) happen when your poo-germs get into drinking water. What way you wiped your butt when releasing them doesn't matter...

TwoUpFront 18 Apr 2015 02:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by samyonboard (Post 502058)
The bottle placed facing downwards etween your knees squeezing it provides the outdoor "sink"... wash your hands after having used the Bathroom was standard to me and I thoght it's quite common... So for you TwoUpFront:

#3 After going to the toilet, WASH YOUR HANDS!


(Alcohol is not needed, thats western germ paranoia. If this was dangerous, there wouldn't be more ppl in India than in europe and USA combined ;-) ) (yess, I googled it, wikipedia confirms those numbers...)

Sure. Birth rates are irrelevant. doh

Quote:

Diseases of facal matter (Cholera and the like) happen when your poo-germs get into drinking water. What way you wiped your butt when releasing them doesn't matter...
Or your food. People tend to touch things during the day.

I will also note, that "washing your hands" in much of the muslim world, often constitutes dipping and rubbing your hands in a basin with water alone, and not under running water using soap.

But, hey, no need to worry about diseases as there are more people there than here. It must then be perfectly risk and disease free. :rolleyes2:

Seriously, I'm done. If you think that the amount of people in a part of the world somehow proves a certain type of behaviour is as safe as another behaviour in another part of the world, then there is nothing I can say.

priffe 19 Apr 2015 11:39

West Africans are more acutely aware of the importance of hygiene then most westerners.

I have often witnessed locals being upset with the behaviour of us 'white people' in these matters.

eurasiaoverland 19 Apr 2015 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by samyonboard (Post 502026)
Ha! I will just tell you one thing: Once you get used to the left hand and the water, you will really appreciate that system (Millions of people use that everyehere, none has died from it as far as I know).

So here's my 2 tricks:

#1 Take a haf litre or 75 Bottle (I personally use Oxygen Water ones from the petrol station because of the squirt-lid they come with) full (FULL FULL) with water. If you use a normal water bottle, have a lid with a small hole in it (your leatherman tool will help you with that) as you done with your business aim at your anus holding the bottle in your right hand and sqqueeze firmly. The spray will take away some firm bits that may still hang about there. Then rub with your left while still sprinkling water. This is a way gentler way to get yourself clean as smearing your poo up and down your crack with paper. Especially when you have some problems and need to go very often it prevents you from getting rash quite effectively.

#2 Sprinkle a little water before you squeeze that brick out, poo won't stick on a wet surface ;-) means easyer clean afterwards. Try this at home, wet or not , the first swipe with paper will tell you the difference (do that over a couple of sessions, it convinced me 100%.)


Bad thing about toilet paper in desert climates: for the lack of moisture it won't decompose as quickly as it would at home... so take a lighter to torch it if you feel like you must use paper. Mini torches used for soldering do a good job here. Wind will uncover your business sooner or later and the paper will fly... :thumbdown:


I promise this will change your life! (And it's good for nature too. Guess the bog roll industry won't approve but immagine the Impact worldwide. No more use for bog roll... No more pollution in production and disposal... )

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I was curious in Iran in 2007 and after the initial 'that's disgusting' knee-jerk which most Westerners have, I was totally converted. I think I have been forced to dry-wipe (for lack of water) on only two occasions since. I've converted a couple of friends too.

Out of interest, Jack Kerouac writes about this in Big Sur "everyone is walking around with dirty assholes"

Indeed, not only is this very convenient when travelling, more environmentally friendly if going in the great outdoors, it is far cleaner (think of an analogy, mustard on a velcro pad?? - the soft side!!), quicker and kinder to your anus.

The question of hygiene is a separate one of course, whether someone washes their hands after taking a dump is unrelated to their clean-up method. Frankly in a public lavatory I'd be just as, if not more worried about what was on the door handle / taps than what came out of me.

EO

Walkabout 19 Apr 2015 14:52

Fluid mechanics of sewers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mossproof (Post 498675)
Wet wipes block sewers! They don't break down like toilet paper and I'd guess they're not as biodegradable? Certainly harder to set light to too!

I can vouch for this, having recently spent a few hours with the drain rods clearing a length of standard sized domestic UK sewer and a total of 4 manholes (in the UK these are sometimes called person-holes nowadays for the sake of PC but, in any case, I am referring to the constructions that allow access to the sewers rather than another definition of the word).

I had plenty of time and opportunity to observe, handle and ultimately remove by hand (otherwise they may just block again further downstream which will come back to bite you eventually) the wet wipes which had not rotted or deteriorated at all compared with the standard bog roll mixed in with the inevitable.

Final disposal was via a bonfire of wet wipes for the sake of hygiene in a garden used by children; this after they had dried out naturally in strong winds.

Walkabout 19 Apr 2015 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoUpFront (Post 502061)
Sure. Birth rates are irrelevant. doh

Way :offtopic: but for more about this, see Hans Rosling and his statistics.
OU on the BBC: Don't Panic – The Truth About Population - OpenLearn - Open University


DON’T PANIC

TwoUpFront 19 Apr 2015 15:16

Some of you should look up "germ theory". Apparently, it is not understood by quite a few of you.

Oh, yeah, "but it's only a theory", :rofl:

TheWarden 19 Apr 2015 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoUpFront (Post 502153)
Some of you should look up "germ theory". Apparently, it is not understood by quite a few of you.

Oh, yeah, "but it's only a theory", :rofl:

Having studied Microbiology at University I think I understand bacteria, virus and hygiene very well thank you

You seem to be confusing an acceptable way of cleaning up after leaving the kids at the pool for billions of people worldwide with good hygiene practices.

It doesn't matter whether you've caressed your posterior with some of andrex's finest quilted bottom soothers or if you scraped it clean with your finger nail.

What matters is your hygiene standards afterwards

Exposure to germs is actually good for a human immune system as it helps a body build up a resistance to bacteria and infections. Unfortunately western media and marketing by the cleaning product industry have many people believing any thing which isn't more sterile than an operating theatre is dangerous for them.

eurasiaoverland 19 Apr 2015 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoUpFront (Post 502153)
Some of you should look up "germ theory". Apparently, it is not understood by quite a few of you.

Oh, yeah, "but it's only a theory", :rofl:

Take a look at a piece of lavatory paper under a microscope - it's not like a sheet of plastic, but a web of fibres. These germs of which you speak can easily get through here, and they are on your finger. Only there is no water flowing over your finger when you use paper.

Still need to wash hands after cleaning up, even if you use paper.

TwoUpFront 19 Apr 2015 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWarden (Post 502155)

What matters is your hygiene standards afterwards

If only it was that simple. Not touching feces in the first place helps a lot too.

Quote:

Exposure to germs is actually good for a human immune system as it helps a body build up a resistance to bacteria and infections. Unfortunately western media and marketing by the cleaning product industry have many people believing any thing which isn't more sterile than an operating theatre is dangerous for them.
Yeah, dysentery, cholera and other niceties is not a problem at all, because it's actually good for you. It is only an attitude problem, and it's not dangerous at all. It's all due to Western sensitivies. Bear in mind, I am NOT talking about germs in general. I am talking about literally touching feces.

Sorry, but you attempting an appeal to authority by claiming to have studied microbiology is ridiculous, given that you don't know about how fecal matter is a real issue in transferring diseases.


Quote:

Originally Posted by eurasiaoverland (Post 502158)
Take a look at a piece of lavatory paper under a microscope - it's not like a sheet of plastic, but a web of fibres. These germs of which you speak can easily get through here, and they are on your finger. Only there is no water flowing over your finger when you use paper.

Really? You really think that all else equal, just as much fecal bacteria touches your hand with toilet paper in between you butt and hand as washing your bum with a squirt bottle and massaging your bunghole with your fingers?

And, also, do people ignore the point about not using running water to wash your hands afterwards, as is so common in Musling countries, the moment you move out of the cities?

Anyway, we have people claiming touching feces is not a health issue, that germs, even from feces is not a problem when it comes to spreading diseases, and that because paper is porous, therefore you're just as much in touch with bacteria than if using your fingers directly.

Excellent. I really like just how stupid this is, and just how little TheWarden seems to have actually been educated by his claimed "education".

TheWarden 20 Apr 2015 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoUpFront (Post 502163)
If only it was that simple. Not touching feces in the first place helps a lot too.[\QUOTE]

Sorry, but you attempting an appeal to authority by claiming to have studied microbiology is ridiculous, given that you don't know about how fecal matter is a real issue in transferring diseases.

Excellent. I really like just how stupid this is, and just how little TheWarden seems to have actually been educated by his claimed "education".

Attitudes like yours are not wanted or welcome on the Hubb

I graduated from University having studied food microbiology on my first course, since then I have 16 years experience in the environmental industry, what qualifies you to make your points?

chris 20 Apr 2015 10:03

Wow, now this thread has developed into a p!ssing competition as to who knows more about poo... I've debated whether this thread needs to be moved to Traveller's Health or The Pub. I'll go for the latter.

TwoUpFront 20 Apr 2015 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWarden (Post 502225)
Attitudes like yours are not wanted or welcome on the Hubb

But arguments from authority to support plain falsehoods are?


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWarden (Post 502225)
I graduated from University having studied food microbiology on my first course, since then I have 16 years experience in the environmental industry, what qualifies you to make your points?


As I said before, denying that faeces plays a big part in the transfer of a plethora of diseases says it all. I don't care how many times you claim to have an education in microbiology, where you claim to have gotten it, or how many years of experience you have in an almost completely unrelated industry.

chris 20 Apr 2015 14:53

Some sh!t posts deleted.

Here are some forum rules: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...hu_forum_rules

I don't know how to say this in easy to understand terms, but having to moderate a bun-fight about who knows more about sh!t is not something I signed up for when becoming a mod on this bike/4x4/pushbike travel forum. Both of you, please take your sh!t off-forum...

Life is too short.

Thanks for your understanding.

samyonboard 20 Apr 2015 15:14

I would like to have some scientific reference from the bogroll and the lefthand side. I got kicked out of half the schools I went to, never got a proper job and don't feel qualified to make any scientific statements due to that obvious lack of accepted education... However, I can claim that from a very young age I had a natural instinct telling me ppl wer talking high level bullshit as (I was maybe 7 or 8 years old) a dentist explained to me that amalgame, quicksilver (poisonus) and led (poisonus) mixed together would be just fine to fix up holes in peoples teeth. I felt for me this was bullshit and told my classmates that I would never EVER allow anybody tu stick that stuff anywhere near me. My cusin (who later studied medecine and is a vet now) told me at a family gathering that he was really impressed with the conclusion I made at that young age cause he remembered when the topic came up during his studies. So my (obviously pretty healthy) instinct tells me water and left hand can't be so bad. Prove me wrong, but this germ-panic bullshit is just bullshit. How could humanity have survived 10000 years without bogroll if this was such an issue? How long have we had roll for? 100 years max? C'm on... Happy to learn thou, but it will take better argument than who has the bigger (academic) cock... Up to the guys with the degrees now!

Wildman 20 Apr 2015 18:58

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*Touring Ted* 21 Apr 2015 17:50

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Originally Posted by mossproof (Post 498675)
Wet wipes block sewers! They don't break down like toilet paper and I'd guess they're not as biodegradable? Certainly harder to set light to too!

Wet wipes are a vile invention. Like disposable nappies. These things are clogging up our rivers and seas, blocking drains and will be for the foreseeable future...

This thread takes me back to a rhyme I learned at Primary School.

"Fart Fart the bum is calling, must have been the beans this morning,
went to the toilet and crapped on the floor.
There was no toilet paper so used my finger for a scraper...

And thaaaaat's what you do in the moooorrrrnniiiiing"


I hope this is a useful post. It's definitely keeping in line with the rest of this thread. :thumbup1:

chris 21 Apr 2015 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 502419)
Wet wipes are a vile invention. Like disposable nappies. These things are clogging up our rivers and seas, blocking drains and will be for the foreseeable future...

This thread takes me back to a rhyme I learned at Primary School.

"Fart Fart the bum is calling, must have been the beans this morning,
went to the toilet and crapped on the floor.
There was no toilet paper so used my finger for a scraper...

And thaaaaat's what you do in the moooorrrrnniiiiing"


I hope this is a useful post. It's definitely keeping in line with the rest of this thread. :thumbup1:

Poet and didn't even know it.

Yours is a very useful post and a credit to your family and friends. Thank you so much for posting it.


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greenmanalishi 22 Apr 2015 00:13

Phew!
 
What an amazing but absolutely essential thread. For my sins I smoke rollies or roll ups. In absolute emergencies if you take a fag paper (colour or weight immaterial) fold it into 4, pinch the corner out you will be left with a slice of paper you can put your finger through. This suffices to wipe your bum and fold up and contain the remaining crap on your finger and the piece you have ripped out will be solid enough to clean the sh*t out of your finger nail. It has worked for me in emergencies.

Not that I am advocating anyone take up smoking so they have emergency toilet paper but for 40p you get 50 sheets and it takes up no space at all. Like I said great for EMERGENCIES :D

PS if you have fat fingers or a huge arse buy the king size Rizlas.:innocent:
PPS a small bottle of hand sanitizer (40p max) will take care of all of those nasty germs and it will all take up much less space then a packet of those puppies on a roll!!!

liammons 22 Apr 2015 00:28

What an entertaning thread!

Firstly I have to agree with Ted that wet wipes are one of the vilest inventions of the modern era, and I hate that 'chemical' feeling that I equate with feeling dirty much more than, well, actual dirt.

I find it amusing that people think their OWN excrement is somehow going to give them typhoid etc; it was already inside you once so with a litttle bit of rational thought........

Having spent a substantial portion of my life working with animals on the farm I have simply lost any great worry about contact with excrement, blood etc etc. Not washing my hands fastidiously every 20 seconds when I come into contact with fecal matter hasn't killed me yet, nor will it.

There is a slightly scary and proven to be unhealthy obsession with cleanliness in todays society, largely due to heavy weight advertising campaigns funded by the same multinational companies that make all this crap (excuse the pun).

eurasiaoverland 22 Apr 2015 04:57

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Originally Posted by liammons (Post 502452)
What an entertaning thread!

Firstly I have to agree with Ted that wet wipes are one of the vilest inventions of the modern era, and I hate that 'chemical' feeling that I equate with feeling dirty much more than, well, actual dirt.

I find it amusing that people think their OWN excrement is somehow going to give them typhoid etc; it was already inside you once so with a litttle bit of rational thought........

Having spent a substantial portion of my life working with animals on the farm I have simply lost any great worry about contact with excrement, blood etc etc. Not washing my hands fastidiously every 20 seconds when I come into contact with fecal matter hasn't killed me yet, nor will it.

There is a slightly scary and proven to be unhealthy obsession with cleanliness in todays society, largely due to heavy weight advertising campaigns funded by the same multinational companies that make all this crap (excuse the pun).

Nicely said. It actually reminds me of the 'fear' people have of radiation, popularised by our lobby of tabloid-educated experts, even though there is NO evidence whatsoever of any adverse health effects of low dosage radiation. This fear strengthens our dependace on fossil fuels rather than nuclear power. Still, surely there are no powerful interests who would be against a non fossil-fuel economy...

And then there is GM crops... MMR vaccine...

Sorry to deviate ffrom the topic of sh1t!

TheWarden 22 Apr 2015 21:16

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Originally Posted by liammons (Post 502452)
What an entertaning thread!



Firstly I have to agree with Ted that wet wipes are one of the vilest inventions of the modern era, and I hate that 'chemical' feeling that I equate with feeling dirty much more than, well, actual dirt.



I find it amusing that people think their OWN excrement is somehow going to give them typhoid etc; it was already inside you once so with a litttle bit of rational thought........



Having spent a substantial portion of my life working with animals on the farm I have simply lost any great worry about contact with excrement, blood etc etc. Not washing my hands fastidiously every 20 seconds when I come into contact with fecal matter hasn't killed me yet, nor will it.



There is a slightly scary and proven to be unhealthy obsession with cleanliness in todays society, largely due to heavy weight advertising campaigns funded by the same multinational companies that make all this crap (excuse the pun).


Probably better put than my post saying essentially the same

Bones667 23 Apr 2015 13:44

whats that smell
 
Originally Posted by liammons
What an entertaning thread!

Having spent a substantial portion of my life working with animals on the farm I have simply lost any great worry about contact with excrement, blood etc etc. Not washing my hands fastidiously every 20 seconds when I come into contact with fecal matter hasn't killed me yet, nor will it.



This thread does amuse me :clap:... and ref farms and animals... for the last 3 evenings I've been shovelling 84 wheelbarrows + nine tralier loads of horse shiit to clear a barn for my daughters horse! The deeper I dug the smell got worse.

Got home smelling of Shiit, looking like shiit and feeling like shiit... And no Mr wet or vegan Wipe was available in this instance. After a beer and a good scrub all was fine. Think the beer was priority though.. oops... All them germs and I'm still alive as well ... although I'm sat on my own at work for some reason :helpsmilie:

EMBEE 23 Apr 2015 14:12

Probably because you're a motorcyclist!

Bones667 23 Apr 2015 15:32

Yep EMBEE thats probably true!

PS... I'm also partially responsible for the creation of all them bomb crators near where u live on Sailsbury plain....

and getting back on topic... I'm probably also responsible for the buried bog role from my poop and scoop military days on the plain as well.... :oops2:

The squaddies on here will know the SOP for this... dig hole, drop load, wipe clean, fill in hole... or if covert... open bag, drop load, wipe clean, tie knot, place in bergen (or someone elses) :innocent:

brendanhall 23 Apr 2015 20:18

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 502419)
Wet wipes are a vile invention. Like disposable nappies. These things are clogging up our rivers and seas, blocking drains and will be for the foreseeable future...

As someone that had scuba dives too it p1ss3s me off when I find wet wipes or disposable nappies in amongst the coral......

washing ones arse is tends to leave cleaner I find most of europe they have bidets for this, most Asians and arab use water in a little hose attached to the side of the loo for washing their rear ends... I have been asked my several non western cultures isn't it better than carefully wiping and smearing a very thin layer of feces across it! :-/ How ever careful washing of the hands is required afterwards...... it not rocket science. Otherwise you can make your self rather ill... anti bacterial hand washes are ace for this!

sometimes how ever circumstances wont allow this so you use bog roll..... (if it is -5°c and gale out side washing is not an option!)

so I think you need to bring some loo roll and be prepared to wash your ares too!

Please do not leave these wet wipes around to stuff up some very fragile environments!

Meths will help with burning the loo roll if appropriate and is much safer than petrol.

martintheclark 25 Apr 2015 10:40

What's the biggest risk to your health on the road?
 
What's most likely to get you on your trip to Far Far Away?

Wired Indian trucker? Homicidal Italian hero? Rabid dog? Staring eyed Jihadist?
Albanian kidnapper?

Nah. Nothing so romantic.

Gastro-intestinal unpleasantness passed by the good old faecal oral route. Also known as the Deli Belly, the Mysore Arse, Montezuma's Revenge and so on. The bugs can come from that little old lady from the roadside stall, drinking water. Or your own hands.

Just saying...

Keith1954 25 Apr 2015 11:00

Ewww!
 
Martin, you've just put me off my bacon sandwich! .. :(
.

eurasiaoverland 25 Apr 2015 12:05

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Originally Posted by martintheclark (Post 502790)
What's most likely to get you on your trip to Far Far Away?

...Or your own hands...

If it was your own hands, why would you only get it when you were abroad? (Assuming you don't change your hygiene practices).

Poor hygiene is poor hygiene, wherever you are.

martintheclark 25 Apr 2015 16:22

Because the spectrum of enteric bugs changes

With the climate!

g6snl 25 Apr 2015 18:16

Wow !
 
When I first saw this thread start up I figured it would cause a few giggles and drop off the end somewhere. I was so wrong ! It never fails to shock me how the simplest question can open the flood gates of Knowledge and lively debate on this site. Perhaps our "party leaders" should join and see how it goes on here........... rather than a TV debate. Anyway forget that, carry on the poo and connected issues :thumbup1:

eurasiaoverland 25 Apr 2015 19:32

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Originally Posted by martintheclark (Post 502810)
Because the spectrum of enteric bugs changes

With the climate!

But does this really account for the increased incidence of gastro-intestinal complaints? I find it hard to believe.

In my experience I have only had such complaints in countries where hygiene standards are very poor - either through low standards of personal hygiene among the population, or poor sanitation and drinking water supply, these are countries such as India, Nepal, Afghanistan or Uzbekistan.

But in countries very nearby with similar climates but where hygiene standards are much higher, such as Iran, Syria or Kazakhstan, I have never had such complaints.

I still believe it is overwhelmingly due to standards of personal hygiene and sanitation.

EO

martintheclark 26 Apr 2015 13:04

Just saying...
 
At the risk of putting anybody else of his/her bacon snack there are other factors involved here.

One is a change in diet such as the direct irritation to the gut mucosa of some compounds in spicy foods.

Also known as the ring sting (n. Inflammation of the ring as a result of pissing rusty water such as after visiting the Rupali
restaurant in Newcastle and sampling the world's hottest curry.
Viz) Ring Burn, Red Hot Poker etc

:ban:

tmotten 27 Apr 2015 16:58

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Originally Posted by brendanhall (Post 502645)
As someone that had scuba dives too it p1ss3s me off when I find wet wipes or disposable nappies in amongst the coral......

That would piss me off too, but I think that has more to do with substandard sanitation systems though. Plastic everywhere pisses me off even more, but only because the scale of that problem is so big.

greenmanalishi 27 Apr 2015 17:23

Funny as......
 
After reading on another thread in the pub about this whole thread being deleted, I have re-read every single post and have to conclude it is one of the funniest threads I have read on here in a long time. It is also useful, I mean if you can't ask this type of question here, where can you ask it?

For any of you really sensitive souls do NOT go googling Hells Angels Red or Brown wings:rofl:

GM
:innocent:

Mezo 27 Apr 2015 23:44

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moggy 1968 28 Apr 2015 21:12

as a member of the medical profession, I do find it extraordinary how uptight some people get about basic bodily functions!

Hell, we talk about it all the time, usually over dinner!!

I can only presume Henry doesn't shit!

moggy 1968 28 Apr 2015 21:16

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Originally Posted by Bones667 (Post 502618)
Yep EMBEE thats probably true!

PS... I'm also partially responsible for the creation of all them bomb crators near where u live on Sailsbury plain....

and getting back on topic... I'm probably also responsible for the buried bog role from my poop and scoop military days on the plain as well.... :oops2:

The squaddies on here will know the SOP for this... dig hole, drop load, wipe clean, fill in hole... or if covert... open bag, drop load, wipe clean, tie knot, place in bergen (or someone elses) :innocent:

I presume, as an ex squaddy your familiar with the single paper technique then?:D

moggy 1968 28 Apr 2015 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendanhall (Post 502645)
How ever careful washing of the hands is required afterwards...... it not rocket science. Otherwise you can make your self rather ill... anti bacterial hand washes are ace for this!

.

while antibacterial hand washes are ok, and better than nothing, running warm water and soap is the gold standard. Not all bugs are killed by the antibacterial handwashes, for example, norovirus isn't killed by alcohol handwash, they are killed by handwashing, assuming you do it correctly.

When I first started my training we did a thing whereby a UV dye was applied to our hands. We then had to wash it off, afterwards we had to put our hands under a UV lamp. It was incredible how much was left. We then put our fingers onto an agar plate. Had some good growths of bacteria going after a few days!!

Correct handwashing techniques cannot be over-emphasised, otherwise it's probably not worth the effort of bothering!

note in particular the finger and thumb pads. these need particular attention, they are one of the more commonly missed areas, but they are the bits in contact with your food (and your bum)!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYwypSLiaTU

davebetty 28 Apr 2015 21:36

I can't quite believe how long this thread has gone on for! It is quite a laugh, but I suppose it is all my fault.

I am in Marocco now, never caught short with some tissues in my biking jacket. Going to have away the bog roll in my hotel room tonight. I've had some fantastic food out here, and never any upset tummies.

I've got some wet wipes that I use for camp cleanliness more than anything. I wouldn't flush them down the bog.

go poo easy everyone!

dave

Bucket1960 28 Apr 2015 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by davebetty (Post 503217)
It is quite a laugh, but I suppose it is all my fault.

dave

Ahhhh doesn't matter dave, we're prepared to blame ya anyway :rofl::D:funmeteryes:

Bones667 29 Apr 2015 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by moggy 1968 (Post 503211)
I presume, as an ex squaddy your familiar with the single paper technique then?:D

Ha Ha... yep ..the single paper and no paper technique.. even used a leaf or two in the past but try to avoid the stinging nettles :thumbup1:

Threewheelbonnie 29 Apr 2015 16:50

single paper technique
 
Is the single piece of paper used to get more extra quilted out of the stores or is that only done in the RAF?

Andy

moggy 1968 29 Apr 2015 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 503309)
Is the single piece of paper used to get more extra quilted out of the stores or is that only done in the RAF?

Andy


yep, that'll be the RAF!

g6snl 29 Apr 2015 21:27

I'm not going there !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moggy 1968 (Post 503212)


..................they are one of the more commonly missed areas, but they are the bits in contact with your food (and your bum)!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYwypSLiaTU

Now.......I'm wondering, should I really take a chance and watch that video or is it going to be something I might regret? :rofl:

VicMitch 30 Apr 2015 01:13

So that's what a Bog Roll is

Bones667 10 Feb 2017 11:59

Supplies
 
And why is it that when you need one most there is never one there!. Just been caught out at work :( next time I'll check the supplies first... :oops2:

Talking about supplies...

A team of sociologists send these three men to a deserted island to carry out an experiment on isolation to see how they adapt:

The three men then decide to split up the tasks amongst themselves:

"I'm an engineer" says the Englishman, "so I'll handle building a shelter".
He turns to the Frenchman and says," You French are pretty good cooks why don't you handle the cooking ?".

The Frenchman agrees, and the Englishman turns to the Japanese man "That just leaves you to organise the supplies" he says. The Japanese man eagerly agrees and they all set about with their tasks.

A year passes, and the sociologists return to see how the men have coped.
They expect to find three desperate men, unhappy with having to live on the island, but instead find a huge wooden house with verandas, porches and a balcony. The Englishman comes to greet them, and when they express their surprise about the house he shrugs and says "yeah well I had a lot of raw materials so I kind of went to town and did the place up".

The team are amazed and are shown into the kitchen where they are greeted with the most amazing smell of delicious food. The Frenchman sees their surprise and shrugs "I had lots to work with" he says, "this island has loads of edible herbs and plant".

The team sit down to eat and are about to start when one of them inquires about the Japanese man.

"Oh we don't know what happened to him", explains the Englishman. He ran off into the woods to sort out the supplies and has not been seen since".

They all agree that they should try to find the man, and a search party is organised. They make it about 100 metres into the woods, when the Japanese man jumps out from behind a tree,.... stark naked with half a coconut on his head, and peacock feathers sticking out of this bum, and shouts

>
>
>
>

SUPPLIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

ChrisFS 11 Feb 2017 20:55

Wet wipes could be anything from bleach to multi-purpose cleaner or something akin to carb cleaner. You do not want to use these anywhere near your man bits or woman bits.
Baby wipes are the answer. Easily spotted. Usually have a pic of a baby on the front of them. Or they may be in pink or powder blue or some other nice and soft pastel shade. Mighty useful tip if you don't understand the local language.

tremens 24 Mar 2017 19:08

for any Rally event I use usually one roll per day.

g6snl 24 Mar 2017 22:04

I broke my own rule
 
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