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If you're a regular reader of the HUBB, say 'Aye'
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And there was me thinking it was a prelude to moving us all to Facebook ...:(
It does seem a bit like walking down The Road towards Tumbleweed City here at times compared to the 'thriving metropolitan cafe culture' that assaults you on Facebook. |
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I wonder how many of the FB users even know this site exists. The HUBB is a goldmine of information and it's a shame that more people don't contribute to it. Probably because forums aren't as easy to use on a smart phone. Even with Tapatalk etc. |
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There is a parallel world on Facebook? sushi |
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After taking quite a while to find password and remember how things work...:D |
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All three sources are very helpful - blogs, commumitys like hubb, expo, advriders and FB Surfy |
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Funny, I have just made a similar comment on a Facebook page this morning... Certainly I've noticed that coinciding with the advent of 'lock down' all over the world in recent months, there has been a significantly increase in people either creating or joining existing 'groups' on that platform (if only judging by the shear number of same old 'newbie' questions being posted day in and day out on pages like the Trans-America Trail and CB500X which I most frequently frequent) - if only as a way to remain connected with others with similar interests during this enforced down-time... after all, there is only so much YouTube and Netflix you can watch right?! The problem with social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter is they are designed to have a high turnover of posts as that is what drives their revenue streams... but what that ends up being for the user is very superficial at best. There is a search function of Facebook to pick up on previous posts using keywords, but apparently the vast majority of people either don't know how to use it or simply can't be bothered... and in that regard, whenever anyone posts a technical question (quite apart from the fact they are using a bloody machine that can Google in the first place!) I increasingly suggest if they want more detailed information, to join a respective forum [or sub forum on big platforms like ADVrider] on that subject - not least as a traditional forum [page] layout is far better for imparting lengthy and more detailed information and photos etc. - and especially if anything is episodic like ride reports and servicing/rebuild illustrations. Like you say Ted, Facebook has it's place in the mix of things, albeit typically for more superficial 'news' information and primarily opinion sharing; but for quality content, I feel the traditional forum platform still has more to offer - not least as people tend to take more care with the content they publish on a dedicated website. These are just my thoughts on the subject... Jenny x |
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That's an AYE from me as well. Though I have to admit to being less on the HU.com and a bit more on the FB one. This is also because I am a member of other forums on FB.
I much prefer the .com version. Much easier to use and a beter public. The FB seems to have a lot of one timers and clueless people posting crap. The .com is for when you can take the time and sit down with a cup of tea and login. The facebook is for the coffee to go brigade. It's fast. Anyways it all helps. Stay safe, stay sane and keep on dreaming..... Vince bier facebook Ride Live Explore |
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I'll say aye with a small "a".
I was dormant for quite a while, but now that "have bike, will travel" applies once more, I'm in the mood to read and learn, follow others' adventures and dream of my own, even if my chances of a lengthy trip are slim any time before my two become undergrads.... |
Good grief. I'm a digital luddite: I didn't even know there was a FB page!
I tell you: this 19th century is full of surprises....doh (Hangs head in embarrassment) |
Picking up on both Jenny and Vince's points Facebook isn't so much a drive 'thru' as a drive by, where you're encouraged by the culture of the place to let fly at any slight inaccuracy or difference of opinion. Stand out and you're shot down. The place encourages short, snappy, shoot from the hip type responses. And there's plenty of them, even from people who ought to know better. I was just reading there this morning a request from a US rider, currently in Ireland but setting off shortly to ride his Transalp to Istanbul. He was seeking info about problems he might encounter but his plan was described dismissively as "A route devoid of jeopardy or challenge" by someone well known in overlanding circles. Well, yes it probably is but that description equally applies to about 3/4 of the planet these days. Terra Incognita has now become is what each of us, individually, make it.
The Hobbesian nature of HU Facebook makes it a far less valuable resource for me than here but despite the nasty, brutish and (generally) short nature of the contributions it does attract a lot more people than HU.com. Where the balance lies between turnover and profit lies (in both senses) only Grant will know, but if most of the contributors on Facebook don't even know this place exists I wonder if there's much long term point in keeping it as a vanity project. |
I ahve already said Aye once but I keep coming back far more regularly than I should so a second Aye is in order.
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While still being a member there, I have "unsubscribed" from the fb hu group. I regularly got annoyed by the utter self perpetuating bollox spouted that the fb algorithm thought that I thought was important. Now I browse there occasionally when the mood takes me. It's seems full of people trying to promote themselves/their sponsors/ flogging dead horses. Very few people keeping it real. I used to regularly contribute to the hubb .com And read a lot. Now it's every few days, but only if I'm really bored. Nobody comes here anymore and I've found over the last few years, when you're actually travelling and need help/advice, fb hu actually had some useful replies (among the fog), whereas the hubb .com has sweet fa in the way of up to date helpful information. Often, personal contacts/ actual friends or connections/ networking through other media provide much more useful information. So, over recent years, the answer to the OP's question is Nay. |
It would be good if the forum could be somehow embedded or integrated into the FB page a bit more. Cross referencing or links etc.
There has been a lot of really great info on the FB page. But it's impossible to find in all the the rest of the crap. Facebook is just not made for data-basing. It emotion triggering click bait heroine. Designed to make immense amounts of money from subliminal mind control :rofl: I hate everything about Facebook but I use it A LOT. For business and pleasure. It's a necessity these days for a small business like myself. Join em or disappear. |
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I agree with the rest of what you said about the characteristics of FB hu vs HU.com. I pop into both from time to time but neither now hold my attention for very long - .com because there's nothing to read and fb because there's nothing worth reading. Thing is I'm still doing as much bike travel as I used to (CV-19 notwithstanding this year) so you'd think HU would be the go-to source of information but the traffic through here is very low. |
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Whilst it may be devoid of jeopardy or challenge to some to others it is a challenge but I bet there are things the the US rider would do without a second thought that I, and many others, would have grave reservations about undertaking - everyone’s adventure is their own - beit in their own county or on the other side of the world. |
"A route devoid of jeopardy or challenge"
How utterly egotistical. A judgement made by 'a hero in his own mind'? I might have a cup of coffee and chat about motos with a guy like that.....once. ............shu (Sorry to carry us even farther off topic. :oops2:) |
I must say that this reference to an Austin post piqued my interest so I had a look-see.
I'm inclined to agree with BackofBeyond. I'll give the benefit of the doubt as to the motives behind it and I suspect the message was rather "It's a fairly straight forward trip that shouldn't give you any headaches, but it will be fun", but you don't get that impression at first or even second glance. It seems to have been posted simply because Austin fancied a reason to press the "post" button. And this sort of sums up why I hadn't even thought to look on FB for HU: I never use it. It can be useful, but used habitually, FB seems to encourage a mentality of writing something for the sake of writing something. Sating the writer's urge rather than the recipient's need. In my experience something written without thought can very easily be, well, end up thoughtless. Ditto to Shu's off topic sentiment. I only read it after responding and immediately felt like a naughty boy.... |
I will agree with Chris' observation about reduced traffic on the HUBB.
When I was a regular visitor, no doubt obfuscating the board with my "insights", I was checking in at least once a day. If I'm honest, being an expat in a country not known for it's openness, it was my pseudo-social life!! Sad, I know. But having come back here, the traffic, number of posts, and number of members is greatly reduced from what I remember back then. The existence of a FB page where most of the stuff goes on would explain a lot. |
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ac...-no?authuser=0 So, what's the problem with it? Is it coz he iz famus? On that particular thread there is a broad spectrum of contribution. Everything from it'll be easy/ fun to impossible, you won't get out of Martin's drive way before being mugged by covid wielding leprechauns. The only way the OP will get to Istanbul is by starting the bike engine and engaging first gear. IMHO, both FB HU and HU.com are over populated with wind merchants. It's just that lots of them are on FB because of it's user-friendliness and no one comes here because early 00's bulletin boards are too much of a faff to interact with. And in the past, possibly over moderated, that people just took their bat and ball home. Most who know stuff have their own circle/networks and don't go to either. Or they Google their question. |
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PS. Last time I passed through Tallinn, that time en route from Nordkap to Bulgaria, was summer 2018. It was a straight forward trip, but very enjoyable. Hope you're still well, Nick. |
I'm doing very well.
Life hard done its best to kick me you know a while back where but all turned out well. So, had Tallinn changed much? |
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After rolling off the ferry from Helsinki at lunchtime, I paid my respects at JD's shrine (where you took me on my first visit) and then continued my journey towards Dagauvpils (sic.?) in eastern Latvia and a speedway event, so didn't stop in Tallinn for the night. |
Late to this thread, but I'm here browsing every other day...
Aye! I find the stream of consciousness feature of social media (and the likes of the megathreads on Advrider) irritating, and impossible to find out anything useful - the "database" format here works for me, and is surely why the hubb was set up in the first place? |
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Yes, exactly - it's a permanent repository / source of information, ever changing of course, but it's a base on which to build, and can be easily updated by the people doing the travelling. It's ALL about sharing information to help each other see the world. :mchappy: |
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I dutifully signed up for the HU FB page and as soon as I was on and saw a topic of interest, I found myself starting to write a post.
As I did so, I stopped and asked myself "Is what you plan to write of any use, a novel idea or just you wanting to air your views?" I found it was actually point #3 and stopped there. And that lead me to a realisation that what I like on HUBB is that people largely only post if they have a relevant point to make. In other words, fewer responses but way more useful information. However, I may try an experiment.... |
My experiment is 24hrs old.
I posted the exact same question on here and on FB. I got 5 contributors on FB and 3 on here. Speaking subjectively, though, I'd say the information was more useful and less vague on here than on FB. So based on a sample size of 1 (what could go wrong?), HUBB seems to produce smaller response size but of greater value content than FB. Me a sientisst! |
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Nice experiment! :) And confirms my own "seat of the pants" view, that FB is great for instant responses and off the top of the head opinions, but the HUBB is where people stop and think a moment before writing, and take the effort to write a complete, well thought out answer, that will continue to help people for years to come. Notre that we are on FB because that is where lots of people like to go, for all the obvious reasons, and it's important that we connect with people everywhere, doesn't matter how or where, but keeping the travel dream alive, and CONNECTING PEOPLE is what's important. |
You might want to consider some sort of feed back into the HUBB. There may be many people out there who use HU FB simply because they don't know of the HUBB but would find it most useful.
For example, top 10 most responded to threads on the HUBB. Or most liked threads/posts of the day/week. I'm on another forum that sends out a weekly email of the top threads of the last 7 days. No reason the same can't happen on the FB page. HUBB is by far the more useful and info-centric page of the two. A bit click-bait-ish but if they like the FB page for the information they can garner, they'll like the HUBB even more: way more focussed, IMHO. |
I check in here a few times per week. Mostly I'm searching and reading old threads, but I also read the new stuff that looks interesting.
I rarely participate in any Facebook groups. They're too chaotic, and anything you post is basically gone in 24 hours. There seems to be a culture on Facebook to post whatever happens to pop into your head. The dedicated websites like this one are fantastic for keeping discussions going and retaining that information for future users to read and learn from. Jamie |
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Is there a prize ? Have I won ? Thought not. Trust everyone is well. Aye is off now. |
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Do Geordies have to reply wey-aye Ted?
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I did my second big trip on a DRZ400S. Ten years ago now. So a few months I bought another one which needs some work. I'm fixing it up and prepping it just like I did on my original one. So much nostalgia. The world hasn't got worse. Your perspective has just changed a little. And you've changed a lot from your experiences. Good and bad ones so it seems. Your brain injury sounds horrific. I'm not sure I want to know how it happened... :/ |
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I come and go - sometimes gone for long periods of time, on again. Now I am on again - that is usually a sign that a new adventure is uncounsciously in the palnning. Before I know it I'm in the middle of nowhere.
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