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Jay_Benson 3 Jun 2019 12:45

In the news today
 
This is a thread that I see on another forum I frequent - it is a combination of news about the forum subject (in the other forum's case scuba diving) and also news that makes people laugh - normally it seems to be court cases where someone has been really dumb.

A report from the BBC about Overland Expo - West giving a pretty good write up of what it is about:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48405631

Lovetheworld 3 Jun 2019 13:29

I agree with the old man. Although I must say, being of the current generation also means that the home situation has also been easier (higher income, better understanding of community at home) so that the likelihood of us going to travel was also bigger.

I don't like the whole American thing where it became a marketing term which allows companies to sell lots of stuff that people barely need.
Especially in the US it is so simple, just buy one of the many available 4x4s, sleep in the back or buy a rooftent, and just go.

Jay_Benson 3 Jun 2019 13:46

Something to do on your travels:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/111199741/whale-almost-eats-diver-off-south-africa-coast

Jay_Benson 9 Jun 2019 00:21

Something to see in Barcelona now has a building permit. Only 137 years late.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48571086

backofbeyond 9 Jun 2019 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovetheworld (Post 600941)

I don't like the whole American thing where it became a marketing term which allows companies to sell lots of stuff that people barely need.
Especially in the US it is so simple, just buy one of the many available 4x4s, sleep in the back or buy a rooftent, and just go.

This whole business of what I suppose you could call 'corporate overlanding' has been exercising my mind for some time now and the more events like Overland Expo I visit the more uneasy about it all I become. The obvious answer is to stop going to them but if overland travel is in your blood (like it is with me) then it is a bit like giving up smoking - the spirit may be be willing but the flesh becomes weak very quickly.

I can understand why they've become so popular in recent years - they're a kind of wish list door out of the rat race with many people muttering 'one day, one day' as they stare at the rows of quasi military turnkey travel 'solutions', but for me the expos and the whole world of overland businesses have an element of corporate flypaper about them. If you buzz around the travel world for long enough then sooner or later you'll stick to it. When travel is reduced to merely flitting from one overland event to another it really has lost its point.

Jay_Benson 9 Jun 2019 16:48

It also ties in to the other thread about how much you would spend on an Overland Special version of your bike. As times goes on I am happier with the decision I made some time ago to prepare my own bike for my trip so that I get to know it better, the weak points etc so that I can address them before the trip (eg make my own panniers to allow me to fit a small solar panel to each one etc). Your comments pretty well reflect my own.

AnTyx 10 Jun 2019 13:35

What I don't understand is - why does it bother you that someone else is having a different experience? :P

Yeah, much of the branded overland stuff is unneccessary. So don't use it. Grab your Sports Direct discount tent, go out and have an adventure, enjoy your own life, don't worry about someone else ruining the "purity" of what you think is Your Thing.

Lovetheworld 11 Jun 2019 10:54

No it is not "my" thing. And if the publicity gets people to step out of the rat race and enjoy travelling, that is great.
However, I feel like it is just another rat race if you only take it out for the weekends or small holidays, spent your money on a 4x4 but then spend even more on the stuff you put on it. For all of that, you need to make more money or at least keep working just as hard as you did before getting into this hobby of overlanding :P
I guess for many it becomes like a bucket list thing (so far not a problem) that is another expensive hobby that they are trying to squeeze into a working life. In small parts. Doing it in small parts with expensive trucks with expensive goodies makes it very expensive.

Let me be clear that I'm jealous of the awesome nature that is for many Americans their backyard so to speak. Here in Western Europe, it is not so much raw nature, and if it is present, you can't go wheeling through it. So I always need to travel at least 1000km for some nice offroading in the mountains or so.

Let me also be clear, that to me overlanding is something else than having a overprepared 4x4 and basically just going offroading and camping for short holidays.
To me, it seems just like offroading and camping trips, nothing more.

Anyway, it is also a commercial event. I prefer the meetings that we have locally, that are not commercial at all. Then you can tell people the opposite. As in, that your old simple beat up van is already good enough for most of the roads in Asia for example. (I had this discussion recently, somebody thought he needed a really good 4x4 with all the costs etc)

Jay_Benson 12 Jun 2019 18:16

Fresh from News Thump.

Jay_Benson 27 Jun 2019 14:46

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/06/26/inenglish/1561561148_759643.html
Sometimes people don’t think through their actions.

Jay_Benson 29 Jun 2019 01:00

Too hot to handle

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/26/naked...-hot-10077649/

Jay_Benson 13 Jul 2019 12:23

Where is "AutoTune" when you need it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48783913

7800 14 Jul 2019 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnTyx (Post 601160)
What I don't understand is - why does it bother you that someone else is having a different experience? :P

Yeah, much of the branded overland stuff is unneccessary. So don't use it. Grab your Sports Direct discount tent, go out and have an adventure, enjoy your own life, don't worry about someone else ruining the "purity" of what you think is Your Thing.

We are all tourists. Sitting in a fully loaded 4x4, on a bike or on your rucksack in a bus station :D

Jay_Benson 28 Jul 2019 11:17

Riding group in Kenya.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-49036017

Jay_Benson 5 Aug 2019 13:39

Nothing needs to be said except "where is your helmet sir?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgH6...cMgvyrq7o5AYlg

Jay_Benson 13 Aug 2019 12:07

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/storie...omen-stay-safe

Jay_Benson 14 Sep 2019 15:38

Police are after some support because they have nothing to go on.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/17...enheim-palace/

Jay_Benson 16 Sep 2019 13:06

Not news, but a link to some good photos of wildlife:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49690173

Jay_Benson 29 Feb 2020 17:31

Motorcycles helping to save lives in Kenya

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-...-on-two-wheels

Jay_Benson 1 Mar 2020 00:06

I haven’t seen this referenced anywhere else so have a look at the article about Charlie Boorman and Ewan McGregor’s latest jaunt:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/long-way-up-tv-/

Jay_Benson 1 Mar 2020 00:31

Now, whilst this isn’t strictly a travelling by motorbike article but specifically a Harley article there is an interesting aspect that does affect us - that of the changing demographics of motorcyclists in the west mainly. The reason for the fall in sales of Harley has been put down, in part, to younger people not taking up riding and older people, well, getting older.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...er/4908382002/

This is true across all brands and looking at the price of bikes from the major companies I can see that continuing as the prices are close to prohibitively expensive for younger riders. My gut feeling is that the younger riders aren’t getting involved for other reasons as well including the pay back time for investment in training - we insist that they spend ages getting trained but are the results worth it for them, will they get quicker gratification from other pastimes?

This is not a uniquely motorcycle situation, I am a scuba diver and there are fewer young people getting involved and going though the training. As a member of dive club I can see that we have taken great steps to attract younger people into the sport and these have paid off and we now have a far younger demographic than we did, say, ten years ago. As an organised sport we have also made advances nationally through the British Sub Aqua Club and there are now more young people entering than there were some years ago - but these advances were made by an organisation in a reasonably structured manner. Sadly I don’t know of an equivalent motorcycle organisation that can do the same sort of thing for motorcycling - perhaps I am overly pessimistic - I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

Flipflop 1 Mar 2020 19:27

No peer reviewed research just my observations as an all year round biker in the uk.
The fastest growing bike style sector must be the adventure section. The touring section remains buoyant. Sports bikes and cruisers are not as prevalent as they were.
Up until about 10 years ago the amount of bikes queuing for a ferry were half a dozen, then things changed, now there could be over a hundred bikes on a ferry heading for Spain.
Despite what people write on social media, it seems to me, that the journey has become more important than the bike and the journey has become, at the least a tour, if not a major trip. Young people are spending money on trips rather than bikes and cruisers are just not practical.
Secondly image is a huge factor in riding a motorcycle and your typical HA Harley rider is just not fashionable. Anyone that may have been swayed by that image in the past is now a hipster - there are loads of young people at hipster style rallies.

Looks to me like Harley have been relying on past glories and took their eye off the ball - they could have jumped on the back of the hipster movement and sold a load of bikes - look at BMW and Triumph.

mossproof 1 Mar 2020 21:10

My niece's boyfriend rides a 125 Duke on learner plates, but has little or no intention of taking his full test - he is saving up for car lessons which will make him more employable. Getting a full bike licence is too expensive a luxury, and sooo much hassle now. CBT, Mod 1, Mod 2 plus the theory plus lessons. Hassle and expense must put many young folks off.


The TRF are trying to introduce youth training schemes for road and trail. Is MAG or any other organisation doing anything?

Jay_Benson 1 Mar 2020 23:17

I didn’t now about the TRF initiative - that is interesting and I will have a look into it - my attempts at luring my kids into bikes have, to date, been unsuccessful. SWMBO started riding lessons when we first met and took her CBT but didn’t get around to taking her part 2 so now the CBT has expired.

I was hopeful that the introduction of the theory side for car drivers would make the steps to the full bike licence seem less intimidating but, alas, it appears not.

Interesting to hear that the number of adventure bikes going on trips has risen. -on my only trip abroad I was the only bike going to Spain and one of three I think coming back - but that was some time ago.

backofbeyond 2 Mar 2020 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossproof (Post 609580)
My niece's boyfriend rides a 125 Duke on learner plates, but has little or no intention of taking his full test - he is saving up for car lessons which will make him more employable. Getting a full bike licence is too expensive a luxury, and sooo much hassle now. CBT, Mod 1, Mod 2 plus the theory plus lessons. Hassle and expense must put many young folks off.

That's the truth of it - a car is, despite all the 'discussions' about emissions and overcrowding and killing the planet, a necessity for a lot of people. The days when people worked in the factory at the end of the street are long gone. Around here (roughly Oxford UK) housing and employment are usually miles apart with public transport only picking up on a few of the more popular commuter routes and then with only a fraction of the capacity needed. New housing developments continue to be built on the assumption that purchasers will have to travel to work and that, for the most part, that journey will be by car.

Where do motorcycles fit into that? They don't. I do occasional work for a company carrying out government traffic surveys and Mon-Fri the percentage of motorcycles showing up in the statistics is close to zero. In the summer it's not unusual to see more council mowing machines than motorcycles. Bike numbers rise at the weekends but that's the leisure market not the daily commute. With the exception of a small number of 'student' scooters and Deliveroo fast food bikes motorcycles don't have much to do with the workaday world.

I think I was lucky to get my licence back when the test was drive round the block and don't knock the examiner over. When I look at what's involved these days I don't think I'd bother - and that's the conclusion both my 20 something kids have come to. It's not worth the effort to get a licence for something that's purely a leisure activity. It's not as if the pleasures of biking have passed them by - my son uses an electric bicycle he built himself for his daily commute for example, but the obstacles in the way of having a petrol engine power that bike are not worth it.

Making obtaining a motorcycle licence a task of labyrinthine complexity - and thereby putting the less determined off - has pretty obviously been government policy for some time. They can't really just ban bikes but they can - and have - put so many obstacles in the way in the expectation that riding will eventually die on the vine. Some people - the more enthusiastic or determined or just old (covering most of us here I suspect) will find a way through but it's the population of casual riders that's been culled by the regulations. Nobody needs a motorcycle these days. They may want one but that's a different matter.

Flipflop 2 Mar 2020 16:13

Made me laugh about not hitting the examiner :laugh. A friend of mine was taking his test and the examiner stepped out in front of the wrong bike, when my mate came round the corner the examiner was laying in the road with a crowd round him

When I started biking in the early 80s lots took the test (easy and cheap) but most abandoned biking not much later for a car. Of course when they had some disposable income years later they had their license so it was easy to take up again - that won’t happen now.
The biggest population now taking up biking are women - not so many younger ones though - but it’s still a growing market for the motorcycle industry. They also want to go adventuring - 20 years ago my wife was a bit of a novelty riding a bike around Europe, not any more :mchappy:

mossproof 2 Mar 2020 21:22

LOL Examiner not too observant! When my bro took his test, he got lost before he reached the examiner's hideout, but made it back to the test centre withi time and unscathed so they gave him the pass! He spent his early years commuting on a chicken chaser (C50) on mud/cowsh1t soaked and frequently icy back lanes. It taught him skills not only to keep upright, and recognize dangerous surfaces, but also how to fall off relatively painlessly (something to do with starting the dismount early I believe) Anyway, he's a much more gifted rider than I. The git.

Jay_Benson 17 Aug 2020 23:08

In the UK there has been a complete shit storm (that is a technical term so clearly annoy be offensive) about the exam system that was thrown into chaos by Covid-19 - essentially the exams were all cancelled. The organisation and government have just relented to massive public pressure to give the pupils the award that the teachers thought they would get. You will get the idea from this BBC news article:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53810655

I was wondering what has happened to the exam systems around the world.

Jay_Benson 25 Sep 2020 07:34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54290245

I’m not sure that this will affect too many travellers but it may fact some.

backofbeyond 25 Sep 2020 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 614496)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54290245

I’m not sure that this will affect too many travellers but it may fact some.

Is this down to import tariffs pushing up Harley prices to levels no one is prepared to pay or just that the Harley lifestyle 'dream' doesn't work in India? I notice the report is illustrated with a still from Easy Rider. Maybe struggling through the traffic in Mumbai on some lumpy overheating chop doesn't have the same appeal as cruising down the open roads of Texas.

mark manley 25 Sep 2020 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 614496)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54290245

I’m not sure that this will affect too many travellers but it may fact some.

I spoke to some motorcyclist in Mumbai about Indian built Harley-Davidsons and none of them were interested, if they wanted a cruiser they would buy an Enfield and for a prestige brand that was actually more use on Indian roads a BMW or Triumph. I have only ever seen one Harley on the road in India and that was one of the locally built 750s but all of his mates were riding Enfields and KTM.

backofbeyond 25 Sep 2020 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark manley (Post 614501)
if they wanted a ... prestige brand that was actually more use on Indian roads a BMW or Triumph.

Those three brands - Harley, BMW and Triumph - seem to have been in some bizarre kind of 'menage a trois' for a long time. I remember reading way back - probably the 70's - about how they were regarded in their home countries. It was always the other two that were held in high regard, the home product being generally rubbished. So a Brit would think Harley and BMW were great but Triumph a pile of scrap, a German would go for Triumph / Harley but dismiss BMW etc. Times have changed and it probably doesn't still hold today but it's still the same names. Quite where the Japs fit in I never did work out but probably nowhere as the assessments were based on form rather than function.

Jay_Benson 25 Sep 2020 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 614500)
Is this down to import tariffs pushing up Harley prices to levels no one is prepared to pay or just that the Harley lifestyle 'dream' doesn't work in India? I notice the report is illustrated with a still from Easy Rider. Maybe struggling through the traffic in Mumbai on some lumpy overheating chop doesn't have the same appeal as cruising down the open roads of Texas.

I suspect that India is not ready for this sort of bike. The article implies that H-D struggled to connect with the local bike industry (assuming I have read it correctly) which won't have helped. As you say, the roads of Mumbai may differ to those in Texas.

Threewheelbonnie 25 Sep 2020 16:27

Many factors IMHO.

The whole Brando-Easy Rider thing is cool amongst a 75-dead demographic, comical to the 35-55's, just weird to a 20-something Indian.

The prices are crazy

I'd bet thet did not approach the market as a new entry but as "stop everything we're here now"?

A high end Classical style in India looks like it came from Birmingham (Warwickshire) in 1960.

One thing I don't get is why Livewire isn't a stand alone brand. You can't have ecologically conscious customers greeted by someone called Cletus and offered a 1200cc V-Twin with open pipes. That's how they killed Buell.

They are also withdrawing a lot of models in Europe that can't be made to perform to Euro 5. All the 750's, the 883 and some of the 1200's.

Andy

Jay_Benson 14 Oct 2020 07:09

Not all adventures require you to travel:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-54513247

Jay_Benson 22 Oct 2020 13:51

Not news as such as the report is from May 2020 but very pertinent to the HUBB inhabitants - well the four wheeleed variety at least - it would appear that 2 wheels is not an option....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52790108

mark manley 22 Oct 2020 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 614972)
Not news as such as the report is from May 2020 but very pertinent to the HUBB inhabitants - well the four wheeleed variety at least - it would appear that 2 wheels is not an option....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52790108

I was expecting to see this closely related story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54544467

Jay_Benson 23 Oct 2020 08:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark manley (Post 614976)
I was expecting to see this closely related story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54544467

I missed that one somehow.

The lack of reference to the two wheeled world makes me wonder if any of the news channels are aware that people travel the world on motorbikes and bikes.

mark manley 23 Oct 2020 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 614991)
I missed that one somehow.

The lack of reference to the two wheeled world makes me wonder if any of the news channels are aware that people travel the world on motorbikes and bikes.

Don't worry Ewan and Charlie are on the case again, joking apart they have probably done more to raise the profile of overland motorcycle travel than even Ted has, not that I like their fake jeopardy and other drama but their programmes are popular.

brclarke 23 Oct 2020 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark manley (Post 614996)
Don't worry Ewan and Charlie are on the case again

Plenty of serious riders crap on them and mock their support team, etc. but if I had a chance to go on one of their rides with them I would jump. I've been following their latest series as they ride through the Americas on electric Harley Livewires, and the scenery and roads look amazing!

I do have to say it's perhaps not the best advertising for electric motorcycles, as they're shown constantly struggling to spend hours getting the bikes charged up every 100 miles. Watching the videos has convinced me of two things: a) I want more than ever to go riding through South America, and b) it will NOT be on an electric motorcycle...

backofbeyond 23 Oct 2020 23:00

I can't even get our posh battery vacuum cleaner to last long enough to clean the house without running out of charge. The tech is going to have to improve quite considerably before I head off into the wilds on an electric bike. I need the bike to serve me, not the other way round.

Jay_Benson 24 Oct 2020 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 615017)
I can't even get our posh battery vacuum cleaner to last long enough to clean the house without running out of charge. The tech is going to have to improve quite considerably before I head off into the wilds on an electric bike. I need the bike to serve me, not the other way round.

Listening to Charlie on Adventure Rider Radio recently he seemed to suggest that they sussed out a quicker way of charging towards the end of the trip, or maybe I misunderstood.

Jay_Benson 1 Nov 2020 01:14

Nothing whatsoever to do with travelling but an example of stupidity.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-54760265

Jay_Benson 6 Nov 2020 21:36

I’m not entirely sure that this is a serious publication:

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/02/don...argest-number/

Jay_Benson 6 Nov 2020 21:38

Ah, it is a serious publication:

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/02/boris-johnson-will-not-take-part-in-movember-despite-successful-ineptember-and-cocktober/

Jay_Benson 22 Nov 2020 08:24

BBC Article on life in a van for six years

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54842438

backofbeyond 22 Nov 2020 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 615833)
BBC Article on life in a van for six years

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54842438

I agree with Esther: "It's not always easy to see the silver lining when you are in the clouds"

Jay_Benson 26 Nov 2020 14:39

180mph - shorts, t-shirt and not too much fuel - I mean, what could go wrong:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-55079524

This guy is probably not going to be doing a speed awareness course.

Jay_Benson 29 Nov 2020 14:06

A worrying update from an earlier news item about the couple who have been living and travelling in their van for the last six years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-55118130

backofbeyond 29 Nov 2020 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 616020)
A worrying update from an earlier news item about the couple who have been living and travelling in their van for the last six years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-55118130

Yes, I saw that. I hope it works out ok and she's found safe and well, but the signs don't look good. :(

Jay_Benson 22 Dec 2020 15:22

Well, it has been said many, many times that we shouldn't ride at night. And here is an example of why - spoiler alert - it ends reasonably happily.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-55409319

BobnLesley 23 Dec 2020 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 616021)
Yes, I saw that. I hope it works out ok and she's found safe and well, but the signs don't look good. :(

Nor have they got any better: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-missing-hiker

Jay_Benson 2 Jan 2021 12:39

The resurrection of BSA and Norton is underway to rejoin Royal Enfield (who never left this mortal coil) and Triumph (who did).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54997191

backofbeyond 2 Jan 2021 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 616710)
The resurrection of BSA and Norton is underway to rejoin Royal Enfield (who never left this mortal coil) and Triumph (who did).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54997191

There's probably a Brexit joke in there somewhere but it's beyond me at the moment.

Jay_Benson 2 Jan 2021 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 616711)
There's probably a Brexit joke in there somewhere but it's beyond me at the moment.

I know how you feel - there is a joke out there but I can’t put my finger on it - possibly something to do with British industry being bought up foreign investors.

badou24 2 Jan 2021 21:12

none left soon !!

Jay_Benson 3 Jan 2021 20:34

Now I know that this isn’t motorcycle / car / truck / Winnibagel related but it is travel related and could be the start or finish of an adventure and it is one I have added to my bucket list so here you go:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55494146

Jay_Benson 10 Jan 2021 17:12

HU is well respected and open to all regardless of mode of land transport - I can see the pressure building in the future for Grant and Susan to amend the description in the section on the light four wheeled tech section. I think this guy may need some assistance at some point in the future when he restarts his trip - and perhaps more importantly before he restarts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-55564654

The amendment could look like this - Tech issues, tips and hints, prepping for travel
Under 3500kg vehicles, e.g. Land Cruiser, Land Rover, Subaru, mobility scooter, etc.

Mezo 11 Jan 2021 02:36

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Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 616957)
I think this guy may need some assistance at some point in the future

Yeah take away his bong before planning a trip. https://www.tenere.co.uk/forum/image...oking-bong.gif


Mezo.

backofbeyond 11 Jan 2021 07:35

I must admit I initially thought 'it takes all sorts' when I first saw the news report, but on reflection I do remember people doing the same thing on equally unsuitable modes of transport. Some of them were even covered here. Anyone remember this -

Voyage en Mobylette

I've no idea what speed the buggy 'cruises' at but if it's much slower than a Mobylette he'd be quicker walking. Maybe the problem is that the moped looks vaguely like a motorcycle whereas the invalid buggy looks like, well, he's just escaped from a care home. It's going to stand out to the cops. Having said that I'd sooner him than me going on some (or any) of the US interstates on something like that. :thumbdown:

Mezo 11 Jan 2021 08:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 616973)
I've no idea what speed the buggy 'cruises' at but if it's much slower than a Mobylette he'd be quicker walking. Maybe the problem is that the moped looks vaguely like a motorcycle whereas the invalid buggy looks like, well, he's just escaped from a care home. It's going to stand out to the cops.

Mobility scooter 'cruises' at 8 mph (12 km/h) max (legally) its not only dangerous its just plain stupid (along with its rider).

Mezo.

backofbeyond 11 Jan 2021 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 616975)
Mobility scooter 'cruises' at 8 mph (12 km/h) max (legally) its not only dangerous its just plain stupid (along with its rider).

Mezo.

There's quite a few round here faster than that. I've been overtaken by them when running at close to 8mph. Some of them must be good for 15mph - a speed that's dangerous for us when they're on the pavement and dangerous for them when they're on the road. Even if you stayed off the interstates, crossing the US at 8, or even 15mph, does seem more an exercise in frustration than anything else. It does take all sorts though - a friend of ours is currently doing a virtual Lands End to John O'Groats (somewhere around 900 miles?) for charity by walking her dog. At the rate she's going we figure she'll be finished by Christmas.

PrinceHarley 12 Jan 2021 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 602992)
Nothing needs to be said except "where is your helmet sir?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgH6...cMgvyrq7o5AYlg

?

PrinceHarley 12 Jan 2021 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 601860)

The cop could have said "where's your helmet, sir?" to which he would have replied "with a gut like this, I have no idea"

And if he were to fall off thus attired, it would be "wears your helmet, sir".
To which he would reply "yes, it did rather".

badou24 12 Jan 2021 09:19

Just goes to show there are all different types of Adventure bike to travel on !

Jay_Benson 3 Feb 2021 12:46

Still missing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-55917394

Jay_Benson 26 Mar 2021 14:16

Here is someone having an adventure during lockdown in the UK - you don't have to go far to have an adventure.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56436100

Jay_Benson 15 Jul 2021 09:48

Warwick University have developed an electric race bike using a Norton race frame.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/norton-motorcycles-university-warwick-students-20937708

Jay_Benson 16 Jul 2021 18:40

A recent BBC report on the missing traveller Esther Dingley:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-57818035

Jay_Benson 17 Jul 2021 08:53

It looks like the UK are set to ban petrol engined motorbikes from 2035.

https://www.ukclubsport.com/uk-gov-confirms-ban-on-new-petrol-motorcycle-sales-from-2035/?fbclid=IwAR2XrJfgKdRDgDG7Th8vRnp-S_2qQsKGXHqm-b12mwtzxuDyHV5eYmt2D2Y

Snakeboy 17 Jul 2021 09:08

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The rumanian motorbike adventurer, v-logger and avid bike reviewer Cristian Predoi has died in a bike accident….
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2611...8401456015423/

Jay_Benson 30 Jul 2021 11:34

Not good news sadly, there has been a development in the Esther Dingley disapperance with the finding of a single bone:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-58022860

Jay_Benson 16 Aug 2021 21:39

Someone making the most of their time - an adventure with a purpose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58229967

Good to see that his adventure bike has a screen and has a rack for luggage. I wonder if he will go for hard or soft luggage.

backofbeyond 17 Aug 2021 08:20

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Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 622075)
Someone making the most of their time - an adventure with a purpose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58229967

Good to see that his adventure bike has a screen and has a rack for luggage. I wonder if he will go for hard or soft luggage.

He's all over breakfast tv this morning so either he's got a good publicist or you should never underestimate the attractiveness of smut. Whatever happened to those 60's seaside postcards anyway? :rofl:

If he does progress updates on social media I wonder how many of them will get through the language filters. Life must really sh*t (a village in Lincolnshire :rofl:) if you live there.

Jay_Benson 18 Aug 2021 13:33

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-58244518

What can I say? He managed to take up a space on an evacuation plane that could have gone to someone that didn't deliberately put themselves in peril.

I understand the desire to go to unusual places and that we sometimes ignore the warnings on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office but this was, IMHO, utter stupidity and as a result someone was unable to get a seat on the evacuation plane because he was given it. Hopefully that person will get through it OK.

Jay_Benson 8 Nov 2021 23:18

It’s not every day that you come across a temple to a Royal Enfield Bullet.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-59036542

backofbeyond 9 Nov 2021 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 623907)
It’s not every day that you come across a temple to a Royal Enfield Bullet.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-59036542

Not much of a travel bike if you wake up every morning and you're back where you started :rofl:

I'll leave it to someone else to say their bike has been like that for years ...

Jay_Benson 20 Jan 2022 12:58

I accept that this is not really part of the routine Horizons Unlimited means of transport but people are still travelling around the world. My only criticism is that she went too quickly to smell the coffee. Fair play to her though, she took on a big challenge from a technical, bureaucratic and skills perspective and overcame all of the obstacles in her path.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-59899980

Jay_Benson 13 Feb 2022 01:26

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-60329097

The search for a stolen bike

Jay_Benson 13 Feb 2022 01:31

News about the former owner of Norton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60294946

Jay_Benson 18 Mar 2022 21:18

Tempted though I was to put this in the “Whick Bike” section I have refrained.

Anyway, this will get you to the remote places that most bike can’t easily get to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60333565

I suspect that this is essentially the manned version of a drone and on significant amounts of steroids. Could be fun, if somewhat expensive.

backofbeyond 19 Mar 2022 12:52

Yes, I saw that on another site (can't remember which), but the picture is more 'serving suggestion' than the 'professional rider pictured' that you get on brochures. I think it's still in development and the Mk1 version will come with a gun mounted in the front as it's Special Forces that seem to be particularly enthusiastic.

The requirement was that anyone could learn to ride it in 10 mins so there's a lot of A.I. 'under the hood'. Having said that, if it went on anything like public sale they would sell every one they could make - but instead of planting trees as carbon offset they'd need to hand out 1000 pairs of ear defenders for the purchaser's neighbours. :rofl:

Jay_Benson 2 Apr 2022 10:03

The former Norton owner has been sentenced but I am amazed at how lenient this sentence is. A suspended sentence for robbing £11,000,000 from people’s pensions? I feel a complaint coming on to try to trigger a sentence review.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-60417156

Tomkat 2 Apr 2022 11:11

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Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 627667)
The former Norton owner has been sentenced but I am amazed at how lenient this sentence is. A suspended sentence for robbing £11,000,000 from people’s pensions? I feel a complaint coming on to try to trigger a sentence review.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-60417156

Was very much my thoughts as well when I saw this. However it probably reflects that fact that his actions were driven by ignorance not malice. The money was put into the company, which failed, and not into Garner's own pockets. He himself was worth millions when he bought Norton, now he's bankrupt.

Jay_Benson 5 Sep 2022 12:14

Chinese motorcyclists helping firemen fight forest fire:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-62770119

jkrijt 6 Sep 2022 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 627315)
Tempted though I was to put this in the “Whick Bike” section I have refrained.
Anyway, this will get you to the remote places that most bike can’t easily get to.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60333565
I suspect that this is essentially the manned version of a drone and on significant amounts of steroids. Could be fun, if somewhat expensive.

3D motorbike riding (flying) That should be fun !

Jay_Benson 6 Sep 2022 13:39

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Originally Posted by jkrijt (Post 630769)
3D motorbike riding (flying) That should be fun !

How do you think the fires started?

Jay_Benson 8 Sep 2022 15:24

Well, this has the potential to be very positive for the world. An effective vaccine against malaria:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62797776

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2022-09-08-malaria-booster-vaccine-continues-meet-who-specified-75-efficacy-goal

Tomkat 8 Sep 2022 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 630812)
Well, this has the potential to be very positive for the world. An effective vaccine against malaria:

Thought for a moment you were posting about the expected imminent demise of Queen Elizabeth. But this is far better :)

Jay_Benson 12 Nov 2022 19:02

There was recently a police motorbike accident on a UK motorway. The rider was injured but it would appear that he was saved from more serious injury by air bags in his clothing. More information here.

Jay_Benson 7 Jan 2023 23:04

A UK resident on an extended holiday has been caught out by the details of their annual holiday insurance. Read the small prints before you sign up folks - remember the devil (and the insurance companies’ claim avoidance plan) is in the detail! Hopefully, he will make a good recovery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64187351

Two wheels good 12 Jan 2023 16:32

A similar restriction often applies to UK vehicle insurance too. Cover abroad is typically limited to individual trips of 30 days.

But I have known an insurer to extend it on request, at no charge.

Jay_Benson 31 Jul 2023 19:49

For once some sensible, good news from England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66341778

backofbeyond 1 Aug 2023 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 637549)
For once some sensible, good news from England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66341778

Indeed! I was reading earlier about some of the arguments the lawyers were using to justify their position. It seems that the ban side said they were happy to allow recreational activity but that overnight camping wasn't recreational because you were unconscious while you were doing it. :rofl: You really couldn't make it up (although they tried!)

badou24 1 Aug 2023 13:13

looks like we may be able to "wild camp " in uk soon
But............... read "sufys" blog about his time in spain a bit scary !:Beach::Beach: a nice beach and a 5 * hotel ?????

Jay_Benson 26 Nov 2023 08:59

Not news as such but an article on the BBC about the shepherdesses of the Pamir region.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67510670

Jay_Benson 4 Jan 2024 19:14

Some wheels good news
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67881615

Jay_Benson 7 Jan 2024 14:56

Kenyan motorcycle taxis pushed to go electric

Jay_Benson 4 Aug 2024 06:09

A report on the BBC about a lady travelling from Kenya to Nigeria. Nothing unusual or newsworthy you may be thinking? She had been confined to a wheelchair following a car accident and hadn’t ridden a bike - pedal or powered- before buying her 250cc bike and getting a weeks training and then setting off.

Turbofurball 5 Aug 2024 08:47

What a great trip!


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