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A week or so back (post #79), I wrote, "Other reports point out that whilst antibody levels are low with those whose vaccinations were several months ago (lowering protection against infection), B Cell and T Cell response remains good (which helps prevent serious illness). The Omicron variant is better at infecting the upper respiratory tract but has a less powerful effect on the lungs—as some will realise, it's far better to have bronchitis than pneumonia." Dr John Campbell released a video last night talking about a study in South Africa (not peer-reviewed yet but with impeccable participants) that explains the situation very clearly in a way that ordinary folk can understand. Nothing is certain in this world, but it seems recovering from Omicron will give (only) limited immunity to Pi, Rho and Sigma—or whatever the future variants are called—but the cross-reactivity of the retained B and T cell memory, means most people won't get seriously ill. To quote directly from the South African study, "the resilience of the T cell response..... also bodes well in the event that more highly mutated variants emerge in the future." |
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But the UK is not out of the woods yet (more like still deep in the forest) and the next two weeks will be challenging for the NHS as the effects of Christmas and New Year gatherings become apparent. As well as bring tent overflows back into use, a number of other things are being considered including the home use of continuous pulse oximeters that signal low blood oxygen levels to a mobile app, allowing the less-seriously sick to be treated at home. |
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Omicron arrived in Germany in calendar week 46 - 15th -21th of November. If you want official data to that check Robert-Koch-Institut, they publish a daily overview. This is the one dated on the same day of your post: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...ublicationFile So there are 4044 documented omicron cases up to 29.12.2021. Sources you find here: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...te/Gesamt.html P.S. To all english speaking users: The Robert-Koch-Institute is a German federal government agency and research institute responsible for disease control and prevention. Greetings from Hamburg/Germany. |
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In the meantime South African scientists seem to have taken umbrage with the way the UK totally dismissed their 'on the ground' advice regarding Omicron, see news report. From two weeks ago... Quote:
Daily infection rates in London (based on the more accurate date of test rather than date of report) did indeed peak just before Christmas with a rolling seven-day average high of just over 26,200. Since then the daily average has fallen back by 13% to just under 23,000. There has been no sign of a surge due to Christmas gatherings. There is a backlog on tests and it will be another four days to judge whether there has been a surge due to New Year celebrations. Other statistics such as hospital admissions, ventilation cases and deaths will lag infection rates and likely continue to rise even when infections are dropping. Hospital admissions were running around 150 per day in early December, they increased in middle December to 400, then 450 and peaked at 511 on 29 December, but have now fallen back to under 320 per day. The number of patients in hospital with Covid peaked at just over 4,000 on 5 January, though one-third of these (NHS stats) are patients who presented for other ailments and were identified positive post admission. There has been a small but continuing drop off in the last four days but it's too early to call this a trend. Numbers in ventilation beds have risen from around 195 before the Omicron surge to currently 224. Most Covid patients in intensive care are unvaccinated. Daily deaths have risen from 12 per day on 9 December to now 24 per day, with 90% of these being patients over 60 years of age. Some will likely be Delta patients who were already in intensive care, but there's no statistics on vaccination/booster status. Staff pressures through sickness and isolation absences are immense, especially in the ambulance service and A&E (emergency department) with some hospital trusts advising heart attack cases to take a taxi to hospital rather than gamble on an ambulance. |
Watch out - the Deltakron mutation has arrived….
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/08/cypr...and-delta.html |
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...facts-22691215 https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...mation-blooms/ |
Whilst the Omicron wave is massively steeper and more powerful than any that have come before, it seems short-lived in reaching a peak and starting to come down, but then slower to reduce than normal.
LONDON: I believe infections peaked in London about the 17-18 December. I have been tracking the rolling seven-day averages of reported new cases by the SPECIMEN DATE (more accurate than DATE REPORTED) and these cases peaked in London on 23 December and have since fallen back from 26,280 per day to under 18,000. There was no obvious mini-surge following Christmas and New Year celebrations. London's daily hospital admissions peaked six days later on 29 December and have since fallen back from 511 to around 250 per day. Over one-third of these cases are patients presenting for other reasons (e.g. heart) and found to be Covid positive on admission. Others are patients who caught Covid in hospital. A further six days later on 4 January patients in London's ventilator beds peaked and the number has since fallen back slightly from 245 to 219. Some of these will be Delta cases on long term intubation. Deaths in London have not yet started to reduce and are currently averaging 36 per day. Whilst this is regrettable, thanks to the protection of vaccines and the lower morbidity of Omicron, the numbers are just one-tenth of those in January 2021 (2022: 36 of a peak of 26,280 compared to 2021: 199 of a peak of 14,344). Daily new cases per 100,000 population have been 50 to 100% higher in London than in the regions, one possible reason might be the comparatively low vaccination rate in London. Several health professionals have gone on record to say that 80-90% of those in intensive care in London are unvaccinated. So in summary for London, case numbers were more than double those of January 2022. A very steep increase in cases, and slower than usual decline of case numbers, with death rates just one-tenth those of other waves. -------------------------------------- REST OF UK: Cases in the remainder of the UK peaked 5 January and average daily cases have since fallen back from 184,000 to around 99,000. In early November whilst 95% of all UK cases were Delta variant there were over 1,000 patients in ventilator beds. Today, with reported cases still more than twice that of November, the number of ventilator beds in use has fallen 720. As with London, deaths are still at their peak, with a rolling average of 260 per day. The results are a world away from the dire scientific predictions of mid December where there were warnings of between 600,000 and 2 million infections per day, hospitalisations of between 3,000 and 10,000 per day and deaths of between 600 and 6,000 per day. OFFICIAL VS REALITY: Nevertheless the situation on the ground has been far more widespread than the official figures suggest, with the Zoe study estimating that even with the recent fall in cases there are currently over 2.5 million people infected with symptomatic Covid in the UK. The REACT study suggests over 4 million have so far been infected with Omicron and by the time the wave is over it will be more than 6.5 million. There’s always going to be a gap between actual and reported cases, but the less serious symptoms of Omicron, coupled with widespread distribution of free lateral flow tests have enabled people in the UK to do their own testing, and then if positive decide on their own course of action without involving the government with the results or asking for a PCR test. |
Case numbers in the UK do seem to have peaked, though caution again is advised as "infections" is partly a function of how many tests are done. You also have the situation where the virus is now encountering a population who have either been vaccinated or have recovered from a prior dose. This is not the same as "herd immunity" because the R0 of Omicron is too high to be stopped by residual immunity and can to a degree be passed on by low level infection of the vaccinated and reinfection of the recovered.
Despite the apparent passing of the peak of infections the full effect in the UK is yet to be felt since hospitalisations and deaths are both lagging indicators, and both still rising. This is of course exacerbated by long covid and the continuing high absence rates from work (especially medical and teaching staff) due to infection. How it goes from here depends largely on whether the virus mutates again in a significant way to evade the vaccines. Clearly in the short term it is essential to tailor the vaccines to target Omicron and improve the current half life which stands at around 10 weeks. Without that we are looking at a further deadly wave in spring as acquired immunity drops. Longer term I wonder if we will ever enter an endemic phase and live with it as we do with seasonal flu. Covid, however, will always be worse than flu - about 3 times worse at current rates. Are we willing to see between 1/4 and 1/2 a million deaths each year in the UK (at the current rate)? One thing is for sure though, it'll always be with us now and the question is not whether we live with it but how. This really needs to be a global approach, because locking borders won't keep it out and lockdowns are socially and economically devastating. To my mind vaccine passports with a regular booster programme are absolutely essential, to minimise mass spreader potential, to ensure those entering countries are less vulnerable, and to incentivise the ditherers to make themselves safe for the sake of everyone round them. We are past the point where test & trace can work. Tests at borders are pointless when the virus is already rampant. Add mask wearing, hepa filters in classrooms and hospitality venues and an adequate sick pay system so the infected don't feel they have to go into work and infect everyone else. Then maybe you've got some chance of controlling the spread and effects without resorting to panic measures every time a new wave hits. |
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We had omicron-like symptoms twice, beginning of December and a month later; both times after coming in contact with infected, YMMV. |
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Here's how Omicron affects a 2.5 year Spiderman superhero . . |
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Hindsight being a wonderful thing
I am amazed at the naivety of some of the comments, statements, so-called 'facts', redirect links etc about this virus and the chatter that 'it's soon over'.doh
How many more posts and how long is it going to take before the penny drops?... :whistling: Covid is here to stay, in different guises no doubt just, like influenza and we will have to learn to live with it and cope with various frustrations and restrictions it will cause in our lives including travel issues as and when these arise. The Halcyon days of travel I have had the immense luck to enjoy are mostly over- just like Brexit, Visas, paper work, we will all have to adapt. They are all a pain but the price we have to pay. Let us not forget that most people who have/had the time and money needed to enjoy motorcycles/4x4's/camels etc to travel with belong to a very privileged group. A massive proportion of Homo Sapiens spend their lives just surviving from one day to the next. That thought alone may well be a 'whinge killer'. Meanwhile, here is an artists’ impression of the new variant. Carpe Diem |
I was interested in pandemics from a personal safety viewpoint before Covid became a problem and had actually taken a copy of Adam Kucharski's The Rules of Contagion with me as reading material on my Jan-Mar 2020 trip to Morocco. Since then I've taken the view that knowledge and understanding of Covid is the best counter to apprehension and anxiety.
It seems that most pandemics last between 2.5 and 3.5 years, and that over time the virus mutates to become less life threatening and it then becomes an endemic disease that continues to circulate at manageable levels. That's what happened with the 1918-1920 'Spanish' flu pandemic that killed more people than died in the Great War—protection against modern versions of this virus is included in the annual flu jab. Part of the reason that death rates around Europe were so high in the early Covid waves is that the virus picked the 'low hanging fruit' of the elderly with co-morbidities, running riot in care homes, with many also becoming infected in hospitals. But even when you take these excess deaths into account there's no doubting the dramatic reduction in virulence of Omicron amongst a mostly vaccinated population, as the figures for France so eloquently demonstrate. In the 22 months to 31 December 2021 there were 126,000 deaths resulting from just under 10 million recorded covid cases in France. In the 23 days since 31 December there have been another 6.7 million !! cases with projected fatalities likely to be around 7,000. World health Organisation Europe Director Hans Kluge stated yesterday that “It’s plausible that the region is moving towards a kind of pandemic endgame.” Once the current surge of Omicron currently sweeping across Europe subsides, “there will be for quite some weeks and months a global immunity... so we anticipate that there will be a period of quiet before Covid-19 may come back towards the end of the year, but not necessarily the pandemic coming back”. Other experts have also said there is likely to be other waves later in 2022 and possibly beyond, so yes, Quote:
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