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Walkabout 7 May 2016 11:44

Telling it like it is
 
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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 537782)
“Problems cannot be solved with the same mind set that created them.”

- Albert Einstein

One of the better written, rational discourse, that deals with nearly every aspect that has been discussed in here over the past few weeks:-
https://eurout.net/discussion/
Law.
Democracy.
Ever Closer Union.
Migration.
The economy (the real one).
Fiscal union.
Political union.
The attainment of power.
Ideology.
Et al (although the CAP seems to be missing and I don't agree with the assertion that the Euro is a "trusted" currency).


"Two half-century old questions remain unanswered: ‘To whom are you accountable?’ and ‘How do we get rid of you?’
Rather, they haven’t been answered satisfactorily, either by EU leaders or by the Remain campaign. Perhaps this is because the only honest answers are: ‘no one’ and ‘you can’t’."

Lonerider 8 May 2016 02:03

This just highlights my previous posts

Judges stop Theresa May deporting terror suspects*

What the flipping hell is going on, they can stay in our country because of human rights issues if they get deported....what about our human rights!?

Wayne

Wildman 8 May 2016 11:48

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Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 537960)
This just highlights my previous posts

Judges stop Theresa May deporting terror suspects*

What the flipping hell is going on, they can stay in our country because of human rights issues if they get deported....what about our human rights!?

Wayne

What does this have to do with the EU and Brexit?

Again, the European Court of Human Rights is a function of the Council of Europe, not the European Union. Brexit means little in relation to the issues that seem to concern you.

Lonerider 8 May 2016 13:00

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Originally Posted by Wildman (Post 537988)
What does this have to do with the EU and Brexit?

Again, the European Court of Human Rights is a function of the Council of Europe, not the European Union. Brexit means little in relation to the issues that seem to concern you.

Yes I know. Something else in my opinion we should get rid of.....I bet Churchill is turning in his grave......

Wayne

TheWarden 8 May 2016 13:37

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Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 537993)
....I bet Churchill is turning in his grave......

Wayne

Has the dog from the insurance advert died then? I hadn't heard:innocent:

Wildman 8 May 2016 21:48

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Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 537993)
Yes I know...

Is it groundhog day?

Lonerider 9 May 2016 02:30

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Originally Posted by Wildman (Post 538041)
Is it groundhog day?

You tell me....you seem to be good at that


Anyway back to the topic at hand


Cameron warns Brextit would lead to War and Genocide, why make it sound that he whole of Europe will implode if we leave, I am pretty sure that will not be the case.
Housing prices going to drop, how can they say that? No one know what will happen in the next 5 to 10 years if we leave the EU OR even if we stay in the EU.
But if we stay we will more than likely still be propping up Greece financially and maybe even Italy soon

This was quite interesting
Never mind Brexit risks – to stay in EU is a bigger danger*

Mezo 9 May 2016 06:40

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Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 538060)
why make it sound that he whole of Europe will implode if we leave

Because it probably will, us leaving is merely the trigger.

Mezo.

Wildman 9 May 2016 07:33

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Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 538060)
... Anyway back to the topic at hand...

Ahh, good.

Fastship 9 May 2016 08:17

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Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 538060)
You tell me....you seem to be good at that


Anyway back to the topic at hand


Cameron warns Brextit would lead to War and Genocide, why make it sound that he whole of Europe will implode if we leave, I am pretty sure that will not be the case.
Housing prices going to drop, how can they say that? No one know what will happen in the next 5 to 10 years if we leave the EU OR even if we stay in the EU.
But if we stay we will more than likely still be propping up Greece financially and maybe even Italy soon

This was quite interesting
Never mind Brexit risks – to stay in EU is a bigger danger*


My God - their hysterical rants are getting more and desperate!

We've won this lads bier


Fastship 9 May 2016 13:55

Just heard more of Cameron’s speech today re. BREXIT meaning war in Europe and invoking the British soldiers and the “serried rows of white headstones” their testament to a safe and secure Europe. Well my great uncle was killed in his tank at Caen after the landings, his is one of those white headstones at Cambes-en-Plaine War Cemetery.


I'm sure when my uncle was burning to death in his tank he didn't think this is for the a greater EU so that my country is reduced in status to that of Alabama.


Cameron is a man who studiously avoided putting on a uniform all his life – how dare he invoke my uncles death in support of his specious arguments to remain. The man just has lost it. He is utterly contemptible.

Threewheelbonnie 9 May 2016 19:51

As a family with links to various cavalry regiments we are lucky to have not had a directly related death since Mons in 1914, but I'm certainly with you on this one.

The argument is just more scare mongering too. If we are in they vote us down and the next Hitler or Napoleon gets an easy victory. If we are out and they fall out amongst themselves again we can cut off their credit like we did in 1870, no need to actually land. If they are as stable and safe as they tell us we need not worry because theyll want to settle their disputes at the negotiating table. When I see France hand their bomb controls over to the commission and name their aircraft carrier the Jaques Dellors I'll believe the EUSA has taken over from barely hidden national interests.

Andy

Lonerider 10 May 2016 02:13

Very despicable. all those soldiers past and present didn't die for the UK to become what it is today.
I certainly didn't fight for my country for it to be used as a floating hotel with great benefits and to be imposed on/told what to do from someone who is in fact from a foreign country whilst paying through the nose for the pleasure.

Wayne

XS904 10 May 2016 16:14

Just shows what utter low life these politicians are, resorting to scare tactics.

I think this vote will be which end of the stick is less shitty, and to be honest I'm still not sure.
Yes we do need to break from the EU, as all the signs are there that collapse is imminent, and if we can distance ourselves from some of the fall out all the better. Its still going to hit hard though.

But then we'll be left with this shower. Deep joy....

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Threewheelbonnie 10 May 2016 18:07

If we vote out Dave will resign. Then its Boris or Komrade Korbyn :(

Andy


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