Yup or ...............
 

As I stated on another site already, this reminds me of the "Frozen" song:

Let'em go, let'em go
If they don't wanna stay let'em go.

Whether or not GB will be better off without the EU .... well, who really knows.

@Paul Wohlfarth

Thanks very much for your succinct and informed post, I'm afraid this thread had ceased to contain any such content long ago. And that's the issue really, ridiculous propaganda touted by both sides makes it difficult to come to a reasoned decision.

Having said that the latest nonsense spouted by the Morons Messiah (aka Boris, or is it Churchill reincarnated) has solidified my position.

I'll be voting to stay.

Osbourne did it for me. "House prices will fall".

Will this be because the atmosphere will catch fire and a plauge of frogs will descend or because there will be fewer immigrants needing somewhere to rent for the few hours they aren't at Sports Direct?

What a shower of idiots who think we believe their scare stories. Can't we replace the lot with a Saturday night TV show and phone vote? At least that way the population learns dancing dogs and talentless teenagers get boring after a few weeks. The one where Ant and Dec have to tell the family of HMS Boaty McBoatface that their Sons are lost at sea might educate a few too.

Andy

So if you between 25 and 64 you don't exist? As this group are the real income earners I wonder what that result would show?

You can make numbers show its mathematically possible for an elephant in stilettos to balance on a golf ball, but reality is somewhat different.


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just returned from France
 

Contrary to your view, the population of France, that I have experienced during my second visit there in the past 6 weeks, is in revolt against their own elites.


People with whom I interacted showed great disdain for the Euro currency and all things associated with it; sure thing, this is just a random sample of people, but real people such as those at camp sites and manning reception desks at hotels.
Clearly you circulate among others.


Regarding your adherence to your economic theories; they are thoroughly dis-credited and are just a part of the problem offering simply more of the same old, same old, same old .......................... All related to the TINA syndrome churned out by the vested interests.
(take a look at the economic crisis thread).


Don't let your schooling get in the way of your education.
- Mark Twain

If only.

The EU is much more akin to "Hotel California".

Incidentally, during one of my recent conversations with a Frenchman, he referenced to VE day which received absolutely no coverage in the UK TV channels so far as I can recall (I no longer take any notice of them and view other channels, produced from outside the UK, for news coverage and commentary).

You seek, you find. You knock, they might let you in.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycl...11.20.25-L.png

Are you suggesting that the polling data, remembering that this was a poll of polls, is somehow trying to represent a particular view?

Oh and:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycl...3lrqtujy-M.jpg

The European Army.
 

Just got back from an ace weekend away at Mugello. If you only go to one race go to this one! :D


Dodgy David Cameron who has repeatedly made it clear that the United Kingdom will never be a part of the European Union Army was once again caught in a lie as a military exercise taking place on Salisbury Plain at this very moment involves the second Battalion, the Yorkshire Regiment and the fourth infantry brigade with the flag of the “EU Battle Group” emblazoned on their vehicles. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...3864361554.jpg



European Union Battle Groups are composed of three 1500 rapid response a team of troops, directed by the EU Council of Ministers, and is designed to respond to security crises.


The Council of Ministers is the unelected executive of the EU.


A European Army is in the future of the EU. The EU's long term policy is to displace the US dominated NATO but has not had the structures or funds to do so to date.


A German Government white paper outlines steps to gradually co-ordinate Europe’s patchwork of national militaries and embark on permanent co-operation under common structures. The paper was originally scheduled to be published earlier this year but its' controversial contents caused it to be delayed until after the referendum lest it gave ammunition for the cause of BREXIT.


At the European level, the paper calls for “the use of all possibilities” available under EU treaties to establish deep co-operation between willing member states, create a joint civil-military headquarters for EU operations, a council of defence ministers, and better co-ordinate the production and sharing of military equipment.


When the remainiacs led by Cameron et al claim that Britain is safer and more secure with our European Allies, those of us with longer memories will recall Mitterrand of France refusing to recall French technicians from Argentina who were fusing exocet missiles for that country which went on to sink HMS Sheffield and the Atlantic Conveyor killing may British servicemen and merchant marine and damaging the chances of victory and also Belgium who halted the export of artillery shells and small arms ammunition to the UK during that conflict and at our time of most need.


The recent vote in Parliament not to go to war in Syria can, in the future be overruled by the EU Council who under the Lisbon Treaty, will have supremacy over national Parliaments.

If you want British troops only under democratic, British command and for a safer UK there is only one option: Vote Leave

Well as you love your figures and stats so much, you might noticed the ones from the previous post of yours don't match. In some instances, not even close.


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Well, you might have noticed one is a poll of polls and one is a single poll included within the poll of polls.

So as usual your spouting shite. Not that difficult.


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Can people please refrain from personal insults and childish trolling...

Anyway..

Here's a video to cheer you up.

https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...6897629498005/

Cameron 'will hand out 25 peerages after the EU referendum to reward his supporters f
 

...in other news, Westminster scuttlebutt has it that Dodgy Dave is expected to create around 25 new Conservative peers within days of the EU referendum. One source reported: ‘We’ve been told the Tories are keen to reward In campaigners, and party donors who are refusing to back the Brexit campaign.’

"Vote remain - the establishment wills it and has ways of taking care of of its' supporters"

This is the kind of ethics & behaviour you will reward if you vote remain. Vote Leave.

Nice.