don't know what Chris did, (there IS something weird there) but the CORRECT link is indeed the second one down when searching on "rules" and takes you where you want to go, or even better go to the FAQ:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...l&titlesonly=0

Note Forum rules update in the FAQ :)

Yeah, you're going to have to go to the FAQ to see it... search the FAQ rules and guidelines page for HUBB PUB.

As you would expect, I clicked on the rules link in the search window. Then I copied the url of the rules page and pasted it into this thread that was already open in a different window.

Using Samsung smart phone with Android 4.1.2 and Chrome. My laptop broke. They don't bounce too well :(

:rofl:

Rules are rules.... And they're there for good reason.

But there are enough rules and red tape in the world already. And most of here travel in a vain attempt to escape them.

And this what this thread is partially about. Oh the irony !

I don't personally think there is anything wrong with this thread. Folk are 'mostly' being respectful.

And as Chris says (And I think he's been at the coca and Ayahuasca tea again), it makes a change from normal 100874838th thread about which coffee cup holder looks best on a GS..

And Chris... I'm not fiddling with your ring antenna. People will talk.

:)

Well the Morons Messiah (Boris) is a historian, that's why he's able to claim he wasn't racist apparently. So I'm sure he's well versed in these tactics. Unfortunately they do work, our government is chosen by news paper editors/owners.

In the end it all does end up being an emotional decision. This thread has deteriorated into lengthy essays spouting so called facts which apart from the odd exception are just intended to support someone's bias mostly "I don't like Johnny foreigner and can someone turn up the volume on Rule Britannia" I may respect the views if they were honest rather than hiding behind "facts".

Does anyone get the irony of posting multiple bar charts, pie charts and figures whilst then claiming every single forecast / economist is 100% wrong?

Anyway the sun's shining and I've better things to do than reading / posting on thisbeer

Yip...the number of 'experts' on the hubb is impressive. They know everything. And what they don't know ain't worth knowing. I stand by my original view about Brexit, politics and all that stuff....it's all a load of bollox being spouted by twats.

On a sidenote, that Donald Trump fella...it looks like he's in the 'final' of the Presidents Cup tournament. Something tells me that the phrase 'God Save America' was invented for this exact moment! :thumbdown:

One thing I'm surprised hasn't come up in this discussion, considering it's a bike related forum, is what effect will EU regulations have on motorcycles in the future?

There's already been discussion of type approval scheme being extended into the aftermarket, and future regulations making non genuine parts illegal to supply and fit, along with maintenance being done by main dealers only.

Not only would this effectively kill off a lot of small businesses over night and hand over a monopoly to the manufacturers, your biking costs would most likely go through the roof.


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Good point - and this is where I came in on post #594. To save you searching here is the post again:-

was quite taken with Triumph's new Thruxton R and was in the mood to splash some cash on a sweet weekend bike such as this. Reading the test of the T120 in Bike magazine the journalist commented on the usual (new bike) poor fuelling caused by meeting EU stage 4 regulations. An easy fix with the right software however, the marketing director was quoted saying the ECU has anti-tamper software mandated by the EU making this impossible.


As most bikers will know, the EU five years ago attempted legislation to criminalise us for making the slightest modification to our own bikes/property, institute a surveillance regime compelling dealers and their mechanics to report us to the authorities and implement draconian penalties such as confiscation of our bikes for transgressions. Needles to say, the UK would gold plate such legislation, as is their way.


Happily, organised protests managed to water down the legislation and limit it to smaller bikes.


Confused, I wrote to the Triumph director quoted and good enough, received the following reply within 24 hours:

Dear Mr xxx


Thank you for making contact and raising the issue of anti-tamper as featured in Bike Magazine. I must also point out that I am marketing manager and not director as quoted!


Triumph ride by wire motorcycles do come with anti-tamper feature, this has been introduced by Triumph ahead of EU legislation coming in. You are correct, it is not mandated at present.


I hope this helps


Kind regards


Haydn

From the horses mouth - clearly, Triumph are ahead of the game and know what's coming - there is a whole load of controversial, unpopular legislation being withheld until after the referendum for obvious reasons. Sadly for Triumph (and me) I will not be buying a new Triumph. The only way we can avoid such draconian legislation affecting us here in the UK, improve our bikes and freedoms is to vote leave.



PS - as a man of my word, just paid the deposit on a new Harley Roadster for farting about on. I'm just now searching for a Thundermax ECU to fit to it :scooter:

Even if we leave I doubt manufacturers will have one model for 'us' and one model for 'them'..

Hopefully though, if someone wants to make a workaround, it wont be illegal.

Im back to voting out.. :/

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I'm tempted to vote to stay in. I'm also tempted to vote to leave. It's a fine line at the moment. I could go either way.
As an expert on 'Couldn'tgiveatossology' my professional opinion is that it doesn't really matter which way I vote, so on that basis I won't bother. There you go, my mind is now made up. A simple non-scientific thought process has brought my dilemma to a swift conclusion :thumbup1:

Yep. A genuine concern.

Massively !! Considering ive Just opened a business doing just that..

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except 90% of the media bullshit about the EU banning aftermarket parts and modifications was just that................bullshit

Somewhere in the interwebs there's even an EU press statement telling them it was bullshit doh

Correct. Old news, if you can call this stuff news.

More lies and propaganda

Some Tory politician even claimed he'd scuppered it all on his own. Just as well we have such heroes protecting us

Sleep easy Ted, there's bigger things to worry about. Like Trump declaring war on NATO :-)