No, you didn't contradict me because I didn't actually express an opinion as to whether Triumph did or didn't do different spec bikes.

Well if the UK government has the power to dictate what you can legally do, then if you are a EU citizen you should accept the EU has a great deal of power in that area, which it has in any case demonstrated over the years in its dealings with Microsoft.

So it's back to exit or remain.

How ?

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Postal vote.

Andy

Thanks, but I don't feel I need to give you evidence to support what is a very simple concept. And WTF has Norway got to do with this????

Norway is the model in which the brexit campaign are saying we could be like. As they are a prosperous, happy nation. Apparently.

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Norway is no-ones model but their own. However, there is something completely familiar about their experience during that country's referendum:-

https://youtu.be/YZcolMY4VLA

A wee story to ponder upon
 

If you start with a cage containing five monkeys and inside the cage
hang a banana on a string from the top and then you place a set of
stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs
and climb toward the banana.
As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with
.. Cold water.
After a while another monkey makes an attempt with same
result.........all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water.
Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other
monkeys will try to prevent it.
Now, put the cold water away.
Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him.
After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb
the stairs he will be assaulted.
Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one.
The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment...........with enthusiasm, because he is now part of 'the team'.
Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs he is attacked.
Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs.
Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the
newest monkey
Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the
remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.
Why, you ask? Because in their minds.............that is the way it has always been!
This, my friends, is how Parliament operates.........and this is why, from time to time:
ALL of the monkeys need to be replaced at the same time.

Great analogy. But there are too many monkeys. And they control the police, media and armed forces..

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UK armed forces have an oath of allegience to the crown, not just for historical reasons but because it provides for checks and balances within the unwritten constitution.
I don't know to whom the police swear allegience but they are not cooperating with the current government, in Kent at least:-
http://www.channel4.com/news/electio...cedented-scale
Later reporting says that 12 police forces are investigating and commentary says that new by-elections could follow.
http://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-exposed

If the police were impartial 90% of parliament would already be behind bars.

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Getting back to the topic.. I voted NO.

Myself, I'm from the Netherlands and a similair discussion will start soon in my country.

A very rightwing and populist movement is starting to take shape in Holland (and perhaps in the whole of Europe).

Why do I say no?

Well, think about it, 55% of your trade is with Europe! And yes, this will also continue when you get out of the EU, as will the regulations.

Source

Therefore if the UK decides to leave the EU, you will have to comply to the same regulations but without a voice in the European parlement.

Furthermore, your banking sector has grown enormously after the EU was formed, this will also crumble may you leave the EU.

Source

One could argue whether it ever has been a good idea to start with the EU, but that's not what your vote is about. Your vote should help your country forward and not only be fueled by emotions.

We should not pass any racist comment to others.
The EU would be fantastic without the politics.
Recently I purchased sling bags online from a store.

Today is the centenary of the death of Jack Cornwell. He was 16 years old and one of the youngest ever recipients of a Victoria Cross. His recommendation for the VC from his Admiral read as follows:

"the instance of devotion to duty by Boy (1st Class) John Travers Cornwell who was mortally wounded early in the action, but nevertheless remained standing alone at a most exposed post, quietly awaiting orders till the end of the action, with the gun's crew dead and wounded around him. He was under 16½ years old. I regret that he has since died, but I recommend his case for special recognition in justice to his memory and as an acknowledgement of the high example set by him."

When they found him he had shards of shrapnel lodged in his chest. He died in the hospital before his mother could get there.

He would be belittled and decried as a Little Englander today (see above). Cameron, the BBC, Goldman Sachs and Owen Jones and the Guardian reading bed wetters would sneer that he is a racist and should try to be more pro-European. He needed no lessons at school on "how to be British". He is a reminder of what we once were and what the left wants to destroy.

In the coming weeks we will see the entire establishment mobilise further to try to smear and discredit those of us who want to return to self-government and the rule of law under habeas corpus. Don't let it demoralise you - it's very easy compared to what Cornwell went through.

And who knows how many others down the centuries died in similar fashion trying to defend our nation and what defines us?

Gob Bless you Jack Cornwell - stand down, your duty is done.

FFS!