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As for predictions of doom. I'm going to be in Siberia then I hope. I'm looking forward to it. Solar flares equal less people walking around with their phones and less soap stars getting lauded as heroes. I'll take the hit, I guess the juice will be worth the squeeze. Birdy PS - Solar flares are interesting - because they would mean the 'end of the world as we know it' for the 'I couldn't live without my I-phone and I can't abide the feel of non designer clothing' brigade - which could well lead to a new enlightenment. If the bright lights were switched off, would we switch back on? |
I rather like the proposal that anyone predicting the end of the world on such or such a date and gets it wrong should write a (hand written) sincere letter to all who did not perish, apologising for their mistake.
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That's a whole lot of letters.
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Moving up in the world ... enlightenment?
Birdy, I have noticed that the H U Bar, much like the earth orbiting
itself into the exact center of the Milky Way, is progressing ever closer to the top (summit) of the initial HUBB page. :thumbup1: Well done Grant. Being more than a "one of" contributor to the H U Bar scene, I have experienced victories and defeats (pun intended} For example my post calling for music at the bar and my "call for intellectuals" were failures, at best, these two threads were half heartedly recognized as the well thought out contributions with tremendous potential, that they are. Most Hubbers who read those threads probably thought "Welp, there goes xfiltrate again." I am just a man, maybe very much like yourself, without a smart phone or designer clothes, but with an understanding that humor is an important survival tool. Thanks Eat, Drink and Be Careful xfiltrate |
End of ze World?
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I've been learning languages, kung fu, rifle skills and survival drills, I've learned to convert my own urine into a refreshing treat via sub lingual osmosis, I can construct a deep defcon 5 shelter from bark and deer semen and I know how to milk a rat and make a tasty torte from its teat juice, I've taught myself to smell cyanide in the dark and tell the difference between it and marzipan at fifty paces, I've been popping pumpkins with a crowbar in practice for the zombie apocalypse, and I've stuffed myself like a lamb leg with sub-cutaneous garlic in the event of vampiric takeover. And none of this is as important as keeping a sense of humour. Birdy PS - Just listened to that song - love it! |
2012 is a bit young yet, but so far it's the year I got to the Elefantentreffen for the first time after only ever talking about it all the other years. There's a first time for everything. I'm sure there'll be other new things through the months.
Oh yes - I tried accupuncture for the first time. Nothing deflated. But the big date in question is 21 December 2012. Last date of the Mayan long-count calendar. And there's a dead-cert prophesy for that date, but funnily enough I haven't seen it specifically on the internet yet. So here it is, I don't think there's any argument, unless my diary's wrong: On 21 December 2012, the day will be called Friday.... Vendredi - viernes - whatever you like. :clap: Although personally, I'll not discount the world's mad politicians managing to do something completely unthinkable that spins the universe around until the day is called 'oakappleday' or something. :eek3: We'll see. Quote:
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Anyone in Guatemala
It's me again.....
Just about the most venerated Mayan saint is San Maximón. The Saint of Smoking and Drinking. So this year anyone who finds themselves around Lake Atitlan (or any other of his residences in Guatamala) should get some cigars and liquor and make an offering. Especially on the Day of the Dead, 1st November. Maybe then, the 21st December will pass off without any dramatics. Cigars sold specially for San Maximón can be bought in any shop selling Mayan or religious paraphenalia in Panajachel (and elsewhere) for a few pence per dozen. They're really crude - only ever light one and keep plenty of fresh air around. I lit a few in a little grate in the garden of a rented house, just to make a little shrine and offering. The smell was awful and got inside the house where it lingered for days! |
San Maximon
Wow, Years ago Elisa and I visited San Maximon in Guatemala did you know that
he has constant 24/7 companions who keep his cigarettes lit and help with consumption of other gifts - he prefers the brandy. No kidding well heeled business men consult with San Maximon for his blessing , no joke.... on business deals as do brides regarding their potential husbands. etc etc etc I actually applied for the position of guardian of San Maximon - I was still smoking then, but I was not chosen. I believe San Maximon is dead, but a real saint - but many of his followers believe he lives, gives advice and hands out good luck or bad. I just thought it would be cool to sit around with San Maximon , smoke and get drunk everyday. No such luck. San Maximon would have none of me. Perhaps I was not yet then enlightened enough. If anyone is near San Maximon right now, ask him about December 2012 and the Mayan predictions and post here. Great post McCrankpin Thanks xfiltrate Smoke, Drink and Pray to San Maximon |
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Yep, that's why I bought the cigars. Then I saw a group of indigenous folks build a little bonfire with a few cigars in one of the 'sacred caves', for a special ceremony. Thought I'd do the same in a little outdoor 'chimenea'. Big mistake! Anyway, did you ever experiment with 'Jabón de coche'? :shaun: I was told all sorts of things about it, including it being great for washing hair and for fungal foot infections. So I bought a huge ball of it, wrapped it in 28 layers of clingfilm and polythene and brought it home, where it still sits in the bottom of a cupboard unused. I never plucked up the courage necessary to try it! What's more I suggested to a friend who went out there, to look it up in the markets and give it a try. Well he bought some too, brought it home and gave it to me. So I have two huge balls of the stuff! Probably, you can't carry that stuff on a plane anymore. Now I read on a US website that this stuff is good for washing natural wool clothing. Well, I bought a super heavyweight Aran Isles pullover when I was in Ireland a while ago. It's a superb piece of clothing but you have to wash it without removing the natural lanolin. It's claimed the Jabón de coche will do just that. You ever tried it? I think I'll try it on some old clothes sometime. Cheers . |
I am not an expert on Mayans or their calendar, but isn't it just the end of the Mayan calendar and every bit of the rest of it is merely speculation?
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Its Official-The Mayans screwed up
X=filtrate rest easy my friend and no longer search for meaningless cosmological events to support Mayan doomsday prophecy"s.
Its official.WE ain't gonna die this year- Good news: the world's not ending, according to the Mayans |
Humor is good for the soul. However, making fun of other peoples beliefs and especially their ancient cultures is not. I'm no expert in the mayan 2012 calendar, but I do know a few facts which have scientific backing. One is that 2012 is the year our planet, along with our solar system, comes in alignment with the center of the galaxy. This happens every 26,000 years or so. The mayans were great astronomers. They were star watchers and built their calendars based on the movement of the stars.
If you ever look up in the sky on a clear night and see the Milky Way, you will find that there is a dark center between the scattered stars. This dark center is where Quetzalcoatl - the feathered serpent can be seen symbolically. This dark center, or dark rift as some call it, is a partial view to the center of our galaxy. Understand that in the center of our galaxy is a black hole. A place where all matter near the black hole is being sucked in little by little. This explains why we see our galaxy as spiraling around a center black dot. It is also why we see the dark rift of the Milky Way. Makes sense why the Mayans would associate this central point with their primary Deity Quetzalcoatl. If you follow the link above to wikipedia, you will learn the importance of Quetzalcoatl for the Mayans. All I'm asking is that you keep an open mind about why 2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar and why this date was so important to these ancient sky watchers. Will the ancient teachers like Quetzalcoatl come back due to this alignment? Will the black proton alignments affect the motion of our solar system and cause a magnetic switch of our poles? Who knows? I think that the year 2012 and the Mayan prophecies are something to be aware of. I personally am heading to the high Andes of South America. If nothing else, I will have a great time learning about these great cultures and enjoying the ride through these beautiful highland countries. I'll also be keeping my eye out for UFO's and Quetzalcoatl.:mchappy: Never know what the future holds. The trick is to make an adventure out of it! |
Criswell : Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.
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Thank You QuiQue
It is seldom that posts to the HU Bar are so well constructed and convey important messages. I thank you QuiQue. Both Elisa and I are MUFON (Mutual U F O Network) investigators and are currently working with Spain's MUFON Director regarding the recent release of UFO files by the Spanish Air Force.
I spent a summer in Yucatan , working with Mexico's Museo Natcional de Anthopologia discovering and protecting archi sites. I spent weeks sleeping in a hammock suspended between trees in the jungles near Palanque. This was in the early seventies - long before the tourists arrived en masse. As I read your post - and knowing that the earth itself will be where Quetzalcoati symbolically hangs out, the center of the "milky way" a thought came to mind. Perhaps it is not that Quetzalcati is returning to earth, but that earth is going to Quetzalcoati - As a musician in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico - I came to know a Mayan princess who sings in her native Mayan language. I documented her on an old - but new then 4 track reel to reel recorder. I have visited the cave! If you are serious about the high Andes - may I suggest Peru and the ride from Ayacucho to Albanque and then up to Cusco. Very rural - many folk legends and if you are lucky you will find a small , very small restaurant identified by a hand written sign the say "POLLO" and if you are lucky enough to dine there - a process hours long, you will be amazed as the chef snaps his finger at his fox terrier who bounds out the door, around back and returns with a fluttering live chicken clamped between his jaws. You know the rest, the kill, the boiling water, the grill , the INCA COLA yes, there, right there one has a good chance to discover the meaning of life, I did. I have learned is it is good not to make fun of or be overly judgmental of any culture or any person. Unless it is with kindness and understanding and with a sincere intention to increase the person's potential to survive. We are all in this together and we are all just trying to survive. Some get it, others take a little longer. Meanwhile have an Inca Cola or a Nescafe and enjoy. Oh, by the way, along with Inca Cola did you know the Incas invented Nescafe - yes that is why when you order coffe in Peru you are served a jar of Nescafe and hot water. This is evidenced by Lineas Nazca or in English Nescafe Lines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines xfiltrate Eat, Drink and Laugh |
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