The Mayan Calendar and 2012
 

I have heard several different interpretations of the Mayan prophecies regarding *December 2012.

* Gregorian calendar.

As you probably know, the Mayan Calendar has been credited with predicting everything from the dawning of an age of enlightenment :D for humanity to complete and utter destruction of the world a we know it today. :oops2:

Some have said the Mayan's were predicting a solar X class flares similar to the solar super storms of 1859 that overloaded telegraph lines. :helpsmilie:
:stormy:

I can not think of a more appropriate venue to collect your thoughts, the thoughts of over landers everywhere on planet earth....as you become aware of the differences and similarities of 2012 to other years you have lived or learned about. ?c? :mchappy:

Your prophecies welcome too...and any report of events that can be attributed to any Mayan Prophecy are especially welcome. :smartass:

I will reserve my judgement until reports from all continents begin to flow in, and as they do I will look for common threads among the reports that might indicate a worldwide event or events.

xfiltrate eat, drink and be careful bier

That may or may not happen but in any case the only thing I am worried about is not to be able to go for another nice trip before that happens.:(

There was a news item a few weeks ago in the UK about this issue; the end of the world forecast for some day in Dec 12. They inferred that the document(s) are interpreted in this way because "pages" are missing, hence it ends in Dec this year.

But, just in case, best get out and ride more. :thumbup1::D

probably quite deadly.......if you're Mayan

Hi guy's!

Well in the case it happens.... we can't attend...we're attending the HU meeting in Viedma and after that we going to ride to Usuaia bier

Who ever is going to the end of the world, have fun! Will be a one off i recon :rofl:


Werner

X class solar flare (CME) due to hit earth Jan 24,2012
 

NASA has advised that a coronal mass ejection (CME) was observed Sunday describing it as an extreme ultraviolet flash from a hugh eruption on the sun.

Throughout recorded history the sun has had 11 year cycles,currently the sun is in Cycle 24 and a "solar maximum" for Cycle 24 is predicted for 2013.

Sunday's solar flare was rated as an M9 eruption, or just on the verge of being an X class solar flare.

What if anything this has to due with Mayan prophecy is unknown at this time.

Any information, especially of you riding Mexico, Guatemala or other current or former Mayan strongholds, please ask your local Mayan Shaman or Mayan Elder and report findings here.

Thanks

Eat, Drink and BE Careful xfiltrate

I have the exact same plan, go to the meeting in Viedma and then spend the "end of the world" at the end of the world. :rofl:

A nice video I watched some time ago about this "end of the world" thing...
2012 & The End Of The World - YouTube

Mayans winter 1968
 

My first motorcycle ride through Yucatan, Mexico was 1968 after the 1968 Mexico City Olympics. I was on my way to the States after working 2 years in Costa Rica.

I spoke with many,many Mayans. Including a Mayan princess who still sang in the native Mayan language. My first hand account of what the Mayans actually said about the future was very much in line with this video.

Real Maya Prediction of 2012 !!! - YouTube

Since 1968 I lived and worked in Mexico for 3 years and each Mayan I met, and there were many, said more or less the same thing.

Why some people have attributed destruction as opposed to enlightenment to the Mayan Prophecy, I do not know, I would like to hear more from you, before deciding what I believe about the Mayans and 2012.

And here is more than you probably want to know about the Maya calendar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkb8...feature=fvwrel

xfiltrate

My athletes foot has flared up after many years of itch free toes.
Ill update if I detect other auspicious incidents indicating imminent
armageddon.

Inhibited blood flow to the extremities
 

Realmc26, I only post this as a sincere attempt to help you and others who spend far too much time barefoot in locker room showers.

Athletes Foot might indeed be considered "an auspicious incident indicating armageddon" if the flow of blood to the measurably highest part of the anatomy, when the specimen is upright, is as restricted of blood flow as the lowest parts of the anatomy so that the lowest parts of the anatomy, due to lack of oxygen carried in the blood, succumb to the aforementioned disease of Athletes Foot, or Athletes Feet as the case may be.

Simple remedies are: wear looser socks, and/or looser fitting shoes or just remove your foot from your mouth.

xfiltrate

My calendar ran out 2011. Think I will get a new one.
From what I have been told the Mayans works the same way. When it reaches the end they gust restart. But think some other tribes are looking for the star brothers to return. Or the big space snakes will come back.

But as fare as end the word we really do not outside help.

Northern Lights or Big Space Snakes?
 

DLbiten, what a pleasure to hear from you again, and on what a momentous night.

Check out the photos and video of the "northern lights" brought to you by the friendly folks responsible for Coronal Mass Ejections from the Sun:

The midnight phoenix rises: Biggest solar storms for seven years create spectacular northern lights | Mail Online



xfiltrate

Ready for Anything!
 

Spain 2012

xfiltrate

This shit, AGAIN?

2012 & The End Of The World - YouTube

Hubb members save the world !
 

Fear not, I have dispatched some Hubb members to tie another knot in that rope calendar. :whistling:

But just in case they fail I'm stockpiling tinea cream. :unsure:

Possibly 'the post that has made me smile more than any other in 7 years of reading this website.' Thanks.

As for predictions of doom. I'm going to be in Siberia then I hope.

I'm looking forward to it. Solar flares equal less people walking around with their phones and less soap stars getting lauded as heroes.

I'll take the hit, I guess the juice will be worth the squeeze.

Birdy

PS - Solar flares are interesting - because they would mean the 'end of the world as we know it' for the 'I couldn't live without my I-phone and I can't abide the feel of non designer clothing' brigade - which could well lead to a new enlightenment.

If the bright lights were switched off, would we switch back on?

I rather like the proposal that anyone predicting the end of the world on such or such a date and gets it wrong should write a (hand written) sincere letter to all who did not perish, apologising for their mistake.

:oops2: :offtopic:


Socks

That's a whole lot of letters.

Moving up in the world ... enlightenment?
 

Birdy, I have noticed that the H U Bar, much like the earth orbiting

itself into the exact center of the Milky Way,

is progressing ever closer to the top (summit) of the initial

HUBB page. :thumbup1: Well done Grant.

Being more than a "one of" contributor to the H U

Bar scene, I have experienced victories and defeats (pun intended}

For example my post calling for

music at the bar and my "call for intellectuals" were failures, at best, these

two threads were half heartedly

recognized as the well thought out contributions with tremendous potential,

that they are.

Most Hubbers who read those threads probably thought "Welp, there

goes xfiltrate again."

I am just a man, maybe very much like yourself, without a smart phone or

designer clothes, but with an understanding that humor is an important

survival tool.

Thanks Eat, Drink and Be Careful

xfiltrate

End of ze World?
 

:biggrin::biggrin:

A Country Boy Can Survive - YouTube

I say bring it on!
bier

I've been learning languages, kung fu, rifle skills and survival drills, I've learned to convert my own urine into a refreshing treat via sub lingual osmosis, I can construct a deep defcon 5 shelter from bark and deer semen and I know how to milk a rat and make a tasty torte from its teat juice, I've taught myself to smell cyanide in the dark and tell the difference between it and marzipan at fifty paces, I've been popping pumpkins with a crowbar in practice for the zombie apocalypse, and I've stuffed myself like a lamb leg with sub-cutaneous garlic in the event of vampiric takeover.

And none of this is as important as keeping a sense of humour.

Birdy

PS - Just listened to that song - love it!

2012 is a bit young yet, but so far it's the year I got to the Elefantentreffen for the first time after only ever talking about it all the other years. There's a first time for everything. I'm sure there'll be other new things through the months.
Oh yes - I tried accupuncture for the first time. Nothing deflated.

But the big date in question is 21 December 2012. Last date of the Mayan long-count calendar.
And there's a dead-cert prophesy for that date, but funnily enough I haven't seen it specifically on the internet yet.

So here it is, I don't think there's any argument, unless my diary's wrong:

On 21 December 2012, the day will be called Friday.... Vendredi - viernes - whatever you like. :clap:

Although personally, I'll not discount the world's mad politicians managing to do something completely unthinkable that spins the universe around until the day is called 'oakappleday' or something. :eek3:
We'll see.


I don't think so and I'd like to see them kept going, so I've just posted some music that I hope will be worthy of checking out.

Anyone in Guatemala
 

It's me again.....

Just about the most venerated Mayan saint is San Maximón. The Saint of Smoking and Drinking.


So this year anyone who finds themselves around Lake Atitlan (or any other of his residences in Guatamala) should get some cigars and liquor and make an offering. Especially on the Day of the Dead, 1st November.

Maybe then, the 21st December will pass off without any dramatics.

Cigars sold specially for San Maximón can be bought in any shop selling Mayan or religious paraphenalia in Panajachel (and elsewhere) for a few pence per dozen.
They're really crude - only ever light one and keep plenty of fresh air around. I lit a few in a little grate in the garden of a rented house, just to make a little shrine and offering. The smell was awful and got inside the house where it lingered for days!

San Maximon
 

Wow, Years ago Elisa and I visited San Maximon in Guatemala did you know that

he has constant 24/7 companions who keep his cigarettes lit and help with

consumption of other gifts - he prefers the brandy.

No kidding well heeled business men consult with San Maximon for his

blessing , no joke....

on business deals as do brides regarding their potential husbands. etc etc etc

I actually applied for the position of guardian of San Maximon - I was still

smoking then, but I was not chosen. I believe San Maximon is dead, but a

real saint -

but many of his followers believe he lives, gives advice and hands out good

luck or bad.

I just thought it would be cool to sit around with San Maximon , smoke and

get drunk everyday. No such luck.

San Maximon would have none of me. Perhaps I was not yet then

enlightened enough.

If anyone is near San Maximon right now, ask him about December 2012 and

the Mayan

predictions and post here.

Great post McCrankpin Thanks

xfiltrate

Smoke, Drink and Pray to San Maximon

Yep, that's why I bought the cigars. Then I saw a group of indigenous folks build a little bonfire with a few cigars in one of the 'sacred caves', for a special ceremony. Thought I'd do the same in a little outdoor 'chimenea'. Big mistake!

Anyway, did you ever experiment with 'Jabón de coche'? :shaun:

I was told all sorts of things about it, including it being great for washing hair and for fungal foot infections. So I bought a huge ball of it, wrapped it in 28 layers of clingfilm and polythene and brought it home, where it still sits in the bottom of a cupboard unused. I never plucked up the courage necessary to try it! What's more I suggested to a friend who went out there, to look it up in the markets and give it a try. Well he bought some too, brought it home and gave it to me. So I have two huge balls of the stuff!

Probably, you can't carry that stuff on a plane anymore.
Now I read on a US website that this stuff is good for washing natural wool clothing. Well, I bought a super heavyweight Aran Isles pullover when I was in Ireland a while ago. It's a superb piece of clothing but you have to wash it without removing the natural lanolin. It's claimed the Jabón de coche will do just that.
You ever tried it?
I think I'll try it on some old clothes sometime.

Cheers
.

I am not an expert on Mayans or their calendar, but isn't it just the end of the Mayan calendar and every bit of the rest of it is merely speculation?
:stormy:

Its Official-The Mayans screwed up
 

X=filtrate rest easy my friend and no longer search for meaningless cosmological events to support Mayan doomsday prophecy"s.

Its official.WE ain't gonna die this year-

Good news: the world's not ending, according to the Mayans

Humor is good for the soul. However, making fun of other peoples beliefs and especially their ancient cultures is not. I'm no expert in the mayan 2012 calendar, but I do know a few facts which have scientific backing. One is that 2012 is the year our planet, along with our solar system, comes in alignment with the center of the galaxy. This happens every 26,000 years or so. The mayans were great astronomers. They were star watchers and built their calendars based on the movement of the stars.

If you ever look up in the sky on a clear night and see the Milky Way, you will find that there is a dark center between the scattered stars. This dark center is where Quetzalcoatl - the feathered serpent can be seen symbolically. This dark center, or dark rift as some call it, is a partial view to the center of our galaxy. Understand that in the center of our galaxy is a black hole. A place where all matter near the black hole is being sucked in little by little. This explains why we see our galaxy as spiraling around a center black dot. It is also why we see the dark rift of the Milky Way. Makes sense why the Mayans would associate this central point with their primary Deity Quetzalcoatl.

If you follow the link above to wikipedia, you will learn the importance of Quetzalcoatl for the Mayans. All I'm asking is that you keep an open mind about why 2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar and why this date was so important to these ancient sky watchers. Will the ancient teachers like Quetzalcoatl come back due to this alignment? Will the black proton alignments affect the motion of our solar system and cause a magnetic switch of our poles? Who knows?

I think that the year 2012 and the Mayan prophecies are something to be aware of. I personally am heading to the high Andes of South America. If nothing else, I will have a great time learning about these great cultures and enjoying the ride through these beautiful highland countries. I'll also be keeping my eye out for UFO's and Quetzalcoatl.:mchappy:

Never know what the future holds. The trick is to make an adventure out of it!

Criswell : Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.
:confused1:

Thank You QuiQue
 

It is seldom that posts to the HU Bar are so well constructed and convey important messages. I thank you QuiQue. Both Elisa and I are MUFON (Mutual U F O Network) investigators and are currently working with Spain's MUFON Director regarding the recent release of UFO files by the Spanish Air Force.

I spent a summer in Yucatan , working with Mexico's Museo Natcional de Anthopologia discovering and protecting archi sites. I spent weeks sleeping in a hammock suspended between trees in the jungles near Palanque. This was in the early seventies - long before the tourists arrived en masse.

As I read your post - and knowing that the earth itself will be where Quetzalcoati symbolically hangs out, the center of the "milky way" a thought came to mind. Perhaps it is not that Quetzalcati is returning to earth, but that earth is going to Quetzalcoati -

As a musician in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico - I came to know a Mayan princess who sings in her native Mayan language. I documented her on an old - but new then 4 track reel to reel recorder. I have visited the cave!

If you are serious about the high Andes - may I suggest Peru and the ride from Ayacucho to Albanque and then up to Cusco. Very rural - many folk legends and if you are lucky you will find a small , very small restaurant identified by a hand written sign the say "POLLO" and if you are lucky enough to dine there - a process hours long, you will be amazed as the chef snaps his finger at his fox terrier who bounds out the door, around back and returns with a fluttering live chicken clamped between his jaws. You know the rest, the kill, the boiling water, the grill , the INCA COLA yes, there, right there one has a good chance to discover the meaning of life, I did.

I have learned is it is good not to make fun of or be overly judgmental
of any culture or any person. Unless it is with kindness and understanding and with a sincere intention to increase the person's potential to survive. We are all in this together and we are all just trying to survive. Some get it, others take a little longer. Meanwhile have an Inca Cola or a Nescafe and enjoy.

Oh, by the way, along with Inca Cola did you know the Incas invented Nescafe - yes that is why when you order coffe in Peru you are served a jar of Nescafe and hot water.
This is evidenced by Lineas Nazca or in English Nescafe Lines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines


xfiltrate Eat, Drink and Laugh

I enjoyed your response xfiltrate and do see we have kindred spirits. The whole thing with nescafe is something perplexing to me. I was in Peru for a couple of months teaching blacksmithing techniques to the locals via a program started by Aceros Arequipa. During that time, I was served Nescafe every morning and I always wondered why serve instant coffee when there is Real coffee being grown in several countries is SA?

I want to thank you for the tip in traveling from Ayacucho to Albanque and then up to Cusco. My biggest question right now is dealing with the logistics of shipping my old 1982 Goldwing with trailer to SA and driving it throughout the country.

I posted a picture of the bike and trailer in the Which Bike forum and have had a few responses which are not conducive to the idea of taking this older touring bike. Maybe you could take a look and tell me if I would be okay riding this bike in the "very rural" area you are describing? If you do respond, please post your response on that thread due to the fact it has little to do with 2012.

Thank you for supporting the concepts of the ancient civilizations. I believe they were wise in the natural flow of life and know things we are just starting to discover with our modern scientific approach.