Transalp 750 / Yamaha t700 test ...................
 

This will be a very interesting review when i comes out ....
Just wondering who will come out on top ?

What do we all think ?
Yamaha 10/10
Honda 9/ 10
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Just looking at the specs of the Transalp, it shows it's very much a commuter bike in ADV clothing.

The suspension is non adjustable, fairly short travel and fairly basic. Says it all.

Although it does have a 21/18 wheel combination so it "looks the part".

Even the new V-strom has fully adjustable longer travel Showa suspension and a massive 20l fuel tank. I think that will be a better comparison against the T7


The T7 will easily retain it's title when it comes to best offroad capable midweight adventure bike which won't break down twice a week like a KTM 690 enduro.

Well, you're right - but then, has the Transalp ever really been an offroad monster? I know people who've owned Transalps, and most of the opinions have been that they're too heavy to be true offroad machines.

The Transalp 750 is aimed directly at a very lucrative and broad market niche: people who want a manageable, comfy, upright bike that can do just about everything well. You won't take it on the TET - but you will take it to a remote campsite down a forest road... the kind of road that you could really get through on a sportbike :) but you will be much more confident and relaxed on one of these.

Yes, it's less of a T7 with good onroad manners and more of a V-Strom or Versys with big wheels - but many people around the world will be very happy with just such a machine, simply because they will never ever in their lives take their ten thousand euro toy down the sort of terrain that would give a T7 a proper workout.

So, who will come out on top... in terms of what? Sales? Yamaha is selling every T7 it can build, and will continue to do so until it replaces the thing. But for every T7 built, there will be five Transalps built, and they will all be sold, and will probably last longer. ;)

He-he some people already know how the new Transalp is without ever riding one, and hardly seen one other than on the www……:clap:

I have owned and ridden a lot on older models of both Transalp and Tenere and I know which one I want….

:We can only go on the spec sheet Honda have given , and it looks like a " nice "
touring bike . :clap:

Nonsense!

We can and should wait until a new bike model is widely available and can be ridden and tested for some ten thousands of kms before the model is declared this or that….

nonsense 2
people buy a bike on the description ....and hope it is true !
read what Touring Ted has said ....................... Oh mr dealer can have a test ride for 600 miles please ?

Well from a dealer perspective a fair amount of models are ordered before they come out or are ever ridden....the T7 being one of those . Personally I think the transalp will do well.....if its around 9k then it will sell by the shed load across Europe, as will the new Hornet .
As for off road......ummm

KTM 890 11/10
Aprilia Tuareg 12/10

That is the number warranty claims per 10 bikes sold ;o)

Jx

Good thing nobody bought a T7 in its first year of production, then. ;)

Not sure about Tuareg unless you count countless oil gasket drips but 890 hell yeah.. isn't it what ktm is about?

..and then maybe a couple oil drops are easier to handle than one patched tube?

This was a question about which of these bikes would come out better from a review - not about buying a bike the first year of production. I thought tht was pretty obvious - but some seem to miss that point deliberately or maybe not…

And I meant also a very thorough review would be better than just a half day testride like most moto journalists made their reviews from…

I'll give u an honest opinion when we get them into the dealership............brutally honest will b the order of the day me thinks . That said one of our salesmans thoughts are if the transalp undercuts the tenere it will sell by the bucket load. The other thought is who buys a suzuki :ban:
Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger :oops2:

Suzuki aren't at the cutting edge of the market. They haven't been since sports bikes started tailing off in popularitly.

What they do is good engineering. They don't trade off reliabilty for finicky technology.

The V-strom 1050 is a great bike. A very good sporty adventure bike. It just works and does what you need it to. Shame they're a bit ugly.

I'm excited about the new Suzuki 776cc engine. It looks the best motor in regards to refinement. Twin balance shafts will make it smooth. And it makes great torque. Which is what people really need in a mid-weight adv bike. A smooth low vibration engine with tons of grunt to pull your gear around.

Suzuki have also put a whopping 20L tank on the new DE model. Which overlander doesn't love fuel capacity. Even if you don't use it.

Wouldn't argue with any of that Ted.....I think the 800 will b really good personally......would b nice if it sold well

Hopefully all adventure bikes will sell well so there is a good choice of second hand bikes for me to choose from when I next change - I can’t afford new
:scooter::D

Same here. I leave people to buy new bikes on PCP. They generally throw loads of money accessorising them too.

Then I'll buy one 3-4 years later when they're run in, proven to be reliable and more importantly, half the price and not depreciating as quickly. :thumbup1:

Met a couple of swedish riders in Mora (upper southern Sweden) southbond as they have been to Nordkapp. (Im northbond in pissing rain ftm) One of them on a T7 and one on a new Transalp. As it was the first time I had seen the new Transalp «in the flesh» I struck a conversation with the guys. The Transalp owner had put 8 k kms on his so far and was very pleased with it. Good things amongst other was fuel consumption which was a little under 4 liters pr 100 kms, approx 75 mpg imperial/62 mpg us. And the Transalp consumed less fuel than the T7! I didnt ask how fast they rode but the E45 has long straight stretches so probably relatively fast.

The Transalp owner didnt like all the techology though, all the ride modes etc etc.

Well it appears that the transalp has a very long top gear . Def designed for long trips to help the economy . Relaxed would b a good description . Looks fantastic with the tri colour and gold wheels . Don't like the cockpit in fill paneli g . As a commuter , tourer , light gravel roads bike I think they've got it right . Totally different ethos from the T7.....think you would have to b totally honest about how u intend to use it before buying one .
It'll sell by the container load world wide......pretty much like the hornet already is .

Ted we've had the 800 suzukis in for a while now . Very roomy very comfy , I'm 6ft 4 and it fitted me fine . Lack of cruise is a shame and the front screen is pants . 7 year warranty is a great idea . Looks mint in the primer grey and yellow .
All I would do is fit sat nav , heated grips , better screen a d it would b a great tourer

Edited my last post as the Transalp feels like it appeals to me a bit more than it initially did. It's still first and foremost a road bike, whereas the Tenere comes pretty much "trail ready". But you can "adventurise" it, it's relatively light and low (20 kg more than my KTM but similar seat height with enough width to move around and some of the tank extends under the set to lower the CG). The 17L tank and good fuel economy should give at least 400 kms range and the riding position feels like it would be good all day with some standing thrown in.

The fly in the ointment is what it would cost to "adventurise" it with basic stuff like bashplate, engine bars, heated grips, 12v outlet and luggage racks - about £2,000 all in all, which means it's not a cheap alternative. Still, sits toward the top of my list when the trusty 790 comes up for replacement.

t7 all day:scooter: top tip go up one tooth on front sprocket (16 )

«Dork on the road» has an interesteing comparison between these two bikes….

https://youtu.be/sR9bOZ7o8ZQ?si=WSJFo6cu1Ba_qGp8

I'm sure the TA is a great bike. If I was thinking of buying one I'd be put off by the shape of and how low the sump sits under the bike. It's an awful design for a bike that is being marketed as an adventure bike.