Finally got my second AZ jab today (well happy) now i`m going to cough all over the anti vaxxers. :thumbup1:

I did ask for a lolly back in April, the nurse didn't think it was that funny? and today i asked if i was getting a lolly? same response.

So the Yanks are given Pfizer & a lotto ticket, here in Australia all we get is AZ & a grumpy nurse & a digital certificate. WTF?

So to all the Aussies sitting on the fence, no you don't get a lolly but you get a jab that can save your life, get it done & stop getting your news from FB. https://www.tenere.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/rtfi.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/j2fWRF7L/vax-cert.jpg

Mezo.

Nicely done and Happy Birthday for the other day.

Wow - you received quite a fancy certificate there. All I got for my two Moderna needles was a standard-size business card with some hand-written scribbles with the lot numbers and dates. I suppose the good thing is that it fits easily in my wallet.

Sounds much like mine. But to cross the border I'm going to have to upload a photo of this rather unimpressive document to some sort of governmental website, yielding a still-unimpressive digital copy. I expect you'll have to do the same, except that in your case you'll be waiting on Mr. Biden, while I'm (thankfully) not.

It`s just a PDF doc, not sure why they called it digital? i converted it to a jpg & sent it to my phone.

It doesn't open any doors here in Australia, when the order is given to mask up whether your vaccinated or not everyone has to mask up.

Mezo.

To clarify, I was responding to my neighbor brclarke. But in any case, anything not printed on actual paper is “digital.” If it’s on your phone, it’s digital; a .jpg is digital until you print it. Feeding it manually into the scanner it’s not digital, but the product stored on phone or computer certainly is.

I just got back from a trip to Germany. Going over there, I uploaded my vaxx cert and they took a quick look at it at the airport (no test needed). Coming back, regardless of the fact that I've been vaxxed, I had to get tested...at the Frankfort airport they barely glanced at the test. You can get tested right at the airport if you want.

The UK is now open to those from the EU (except France) and the USA that have been fully vaccinated (two doses for Astra Zenica / Pfizer / Modena and a single dose of the Johnson - I am not 100% on the Johnson single dose vaccine so worth checking before buying a ticket etc).

Whether you will be allowed to go back is another question entirely.

The UK has just started to deliver the first doses of vaccine to Covax - the UN body sorting out vaccines for the parts of the world that are unable to afford the vaccine. The UK have promised to deliver 100 million in the next year - hopefully they will not just deliver that 100 million but significantly more and the equipment to administer the vaccines safely.

It's over an hour long which makes me reluctant to sit through it, particularly as I've never heard of either of the people involved. However, anything that claims to 'expose the truth' in its strap line is more likely than not to be pushing some fringe agenda based round some kind of conspiracy in my experience.

If it's not, and it's a worthwhile debate about the science surrounding Covid, vaccinations, or even a reasoned discussion about sociological consequences of the pandemic then let me know and I'll make the time. On the face of it though it seems far from that. The people involved must have some kind of public face (in the US I guess).

A post on this thread included a link to a video about which I know nothing. After clicking on the link and reading a few of the supportive comments which followed it, I've placed that post (and mine responding to it) into moderation. That means they're invisible; Grant and moderators will decide whether or not to allow them here.

Mark

And the posts are gone.

Here's a quote from a site that rates sites on media bias:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bitchute/
"Overall, we rate BitChute extreme right and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, propaganda, hate speech, poor sourcing, fake news, and a lack of transparency. This source is not credible for accurate information and may be offensive to some (most)."

Trustpilot also gives it a poor rating. 52% BAD.

Dailydot: https://www.dailydot.com/upstream/bitchute/
"Since January 2017, BitChute has fashioned itself as an independent news outlet, but also welcomed the kind of misinformation videos that YouTube has been battling; the partisan, racist, and far-out absurdities that YouTube has tried to smoke out. Just how far can it really stretch its “freedom of expression” mission?"

And my own review says same thing - NOT acceptable, NOT helpful in any way, and contributes to the growing divisiveness and hate / propaganda / fake news that's getting completely out of hand.

Remember politics is BANNED on this forum except where it affects borders and our ability to traverse / visit a country.

On a lighter note. Just got my 2nd shot. The two week countdown to my Cyprus trip has begun.

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter:

So there may be a longer delay to easy global travel than we were hoping for as it would appear that the rich nations have hogged the vast majority of the vaccines so far. Much more detail here.

The long and the short of it is that whilst the west has promised to deliver lots of vaccines to the poorer nations the promises have not yet been delivered plus India has stopped exporting vaccines whilst they sort themselves out - hopefully this will be sorted quickly so we can get the vaccine roll out globally done as fast as possible.

Mind you, there are still the people that refuse the vaccine in every country, some cannot have it due to medical conditions - and that I understand - I don't include Stupidity in the group of understandable medical conditions.

Jab 3 coming to a clinic near you shortly (my daughter gets hers this week), so I wonder whether part of the hoarding has been in anticipation of this going ahead. I have wondered whether there's a foreign aid budget analogy element to this, where the vaccines have been used - like money usually is - as a political influence stick to beat people with.

As for vaccine 'refuseniks', my sympathy gene seems to have run the whole gamut over the last year or so from 'they don't understand' through 'we need to convince them' to 'on their own heads be it'. I had a friend in the US email me a few days ago and mention that his next door neighbour's live at home son has just caught it. Both parents are unvaccinated by choice and all three of them are now quarantined together at home. It'll be interesting to see how that one works out. On the other hand, one of my wife's medical partners has just caught it as well and is confined to her house. She's double vaccinated and (so far anyway) isn't that ill with it. Because the practice is so overwhelmed with work she's still having to take patient referrals by phone / zoom while trying to recover.

I suspect that there is a large element of retention for the third jab going on - they have been talking of the booster jab publicly for some time so behind closed doors for longer than that. However, there should be sufficient to start to deliver on the promises. .