Had my AstraZeneca vaccine three days ago.

Bit of a sore arm and some flu type symptoms each evening since. Had chills on the night of the jab.

Feeling good now. Might head to India ....


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I've enjoyed some of the posts greatly and some have been very informative, so this is tongue in cheek

The krauts are getting crazy! :helpsmilie:

Germany declares GB a virus variant area.

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/...tengebiet.html

(take a translator of your choice)

I still like you guys! Greetings to all of you in GB!bier

Quite right
 

Germany is quite right and pragmatic! Well done Germany.

Not enough to vote for us in the European song thing :rofl: :rofl:

It would seem that we're up to our ears in Covid variants - Kent, South African, Indian and probably many others that don't come to mind at present, but equally (so far anyway) the vaccines seem to work against them. Whether there's a new easily spread super variant just round the corner that isn't affected by the vaccines is, I suppose, what keeps both virologists and politicians awake at night, but so far there doesn't seem to be any sign of one. The variability (as far as I'm aware anyway) is in the spike protein, which is something the virus uses to gain access to host cells. Some modelling work I read about six months ago suggested that only a limited number of viable variants of that were possible, so we were not facing an infinitely variable adversary. The non viable variants were subject to the usual forces of natural selection.

Variability through random mutation is of course normal for all organisms, but particularly so for viruses with their large population and short 'generation' time. Whether we do more testing and analysis of virus structure in the UK to identify / track mutations compared to other (EU) countries (so showing up what's actually present 'everywhere' but not identified) I'm not sure, or whether it really is a case of more porous borders allowing every variety from anywhere to take hold here, but I wonder how long it'll be before the Indian version shows up in Germany. If it's not there now they'll do well to keep it out. EU borders - particularly Schengen ones - are not like Australian ones.

So far there's been very little about the Indian variant in the medical press. My GP wife has been told almost nothing about it through official channels and knows not much more than what she reads in the newspapers (not the best source of medical advice). It always takes a while for actual information (rather than press speculation) to filter down though.

We've got a Yorkshire variant now as well, comes with an extra Whippet

It was detected first time officially at 11th of may in Germany. Up to now 26 cases are confirmed.

It`s more than double infective than other mutants. Medicals announced that they recognized an indication that BioNTech/Pfizer und Moderna will neutralize course of disease. Borders for UK members are closed and germans coming from Uk have to stay in quarantine for 14 days. Quarantine cannot be shortened by a PCR Test as possible with other mutants.

So far there are 15 mutants of corona virus known.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varian...ense_mutations

I find it surprising that Germany only started seeing the Indian variant 2 weeks ago. It's been in British Columbia for some time and is now the dominant strain in the province. COVID-19 Variants

Ok ... whats your price for your vote? Do you take a barrel bier? (missing icon - Graaant?)
*like: voting for soccer 2022 in Katar*

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The krauts have different eyes .... GB is giving 100%. Germany try to make "150%".


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Maybe why Germany has only one airport (Frankfurt) in 2021 for direct flights from/to India. Germany had banned most incoming/outgoing international flights in the past months. Travellers from India reach Europe through flying over hubs like London, Amsterdam, Paris, Madrid. So more screening and quaratines before entering Germany. In Germany are currently living 150.000 indians while Canada has over a million. Afaik British Columbia detected first 39 cases of B.1617 at 4th of April 2021. Travel ban to/from India/Pakistan was set up by Canada at 23th of April and will be up to end of june.

Well the UK has gone for the travel restrictions in a full blooded way. We started to stop international travel after the virus had been ravaging the world for only 16 months. We stopped the travel from India after only we had signed a trade deal - presumably we also have trade deals with South Africa and Brazil as we waited ages until we banned travel from those countries. If only we were an island - then we could manage our borders easily.

Cynical? Moi?

As we say in England 'plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose'. :rolleyes2:

I can see the good old days riding back over the horizon towards us. It used to be "Fog in the Channel, Europe isolated", now it's vaccine xenophobia. At least they haven't (yet) started melting down the cross channel ferries to make more ventilators.:rofl:

I had totally forgotten that headline. I am not sure it is true but it sums up some inhabitants mentality pretty well.

Well that`s the point exactly, the UK could & should have just closed up shop but they didn't & still haven't.

Poor leadership putting lives over the the almighty dollar, which surprises me because BoJo was real close to copping it himself, you would think he would have learned something with his own experience?

Like i said before, UK born & bred but now living down under & grateful.

Mezo.

Looks like your home secretary is working on a solution for the island problem...

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...sta-style-visa