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Rapax 11 Jun 2021 07:53

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Originally Posted by Surfy (Post 620723)
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Too sad to see the values :( I had assumed, that the UK values gets better with a higer vaccination rate.

Surfy


Growing incedents mainly caused by spreading through Delta virus variant (B.1.617.2) since April from Blackburn, Bolton, Manchester, Leicester and areas around of Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton airport.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-57424534

New infections hit primarly non vaccinated people and people who only got one shot. Which means a lot of schoolkids and teenagers.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...o-had-covid-19

RussG 12 Jun 2021 15:43

The surge in the Delta variant in the UK, despite an estimated 80% of the population having some level of anti bodies, should be a wake up call for any anti vaxers.
But they'll chhose to interpret this, using their twisted logic, to claim that vaccines don't protect us and that they are dangerous.
Go figure.
So that's one reason I can't be bothered to even attempt any engagement. Unfortunately this twisted logic spills over and influences the vaccine hesitant :-(

Mezo 17 Jun 2021 08:45

So here in Australia, today they are now recommending those only over the age of 60 should be given the AstraZeneca jab due to the risk & recent cases of thrombosis (mainly with women) & from now on those under 60 are to be given the Pfizer vaccine.

I fall in to the over 50 but under 60 category who has had their first AZ jab & what the experts are saying (and those are the people i take my advice from) is that if you have had your first AZ jab with no ill effects the second jab is simply a booster and its highly unlikely that you will have any issues.

So no problems so far (six weeks in) and looking forward to the second jab, of course i could be dead in six weeks but if i got CV19 i would be dead anyhow.

For sure i would have prefered the Pfizer vaccine & i did ask but there was no choice as the Yanks have gobbled up the world's supply.

Mezo.

Surfy 17 Jun 2021 11:22

Here are the current Data from the Swiss Gouverment:

https://www.bag.admin.ch/dam/bag/de/...liche_Lage.pdf

It looks not so bad here. A very low hospilisation rate. Restaurants open, Wellness and Sport is open - and new is - that the homeoffice obligation isnt that strict anymore.

In switzerland we had to work at home till last month, if possible - something who was different to other countrys.

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...mendations.png

The vaccination rate is still low, compared to the nighbours, but starts to grow too.

Surfy

RussG 18 Jun 2021 09:44

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Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 620945)
So here in Australia, today they are now recommending those only over the age of 60 should be given the AstraZeneca jab due to the risk & recent cases of thrombosis (mainly with women) & from now on those under 60 are to be given the Pfizer vaccine.

I fall in to the over 50 but under 60 category who has had their first AZ jab & what the experts are saying (and those are the people i take my advice from) is that if you have had your first AZ jab with no ill effects the second jab is simply a booster and its highly unlikely that you will have any issues.

So no problems so far (six weeks in) and looking forward to the second jab, of course i could be dead in six weeks but if i got CV19 i would be dead anyhow.

For sure i would have prefered the Pfizer vaccine & i did ask but there was no choice as the Yanks have gobbled up the world's supply.

Mezo.

My wife and I had our 2nd AstraZeneca vaccine a few weeks ago. Zero side effects. One comparison I saw stated the risk as being equal to the possibility of dying when you drive 250 miles on UK roads. And of course all the conspiracy theory anti vaxer middle aged men like to ignore the risk millions of women take by using oral contraception.
Our 23yr old daughter had her first Phizer vaccine yesterday. Sore arm and this morning, she described it as if she'd been drinking too much in the sunbier those nano bots flowing in her blood stream are obviously able to predict the future. Now that I hadn't figured:rofl:
By this afternoon all fine.
I'm now in the process of sorting out our digital Covid vaccine passports. Planing a trip through Europe (even though they hate Brits after Brexit):rolleyes2:

TheWarden 18 Jun 2021 10:16

Had my 2nd AZ, slight sore arm. Looking forward to travelling again this autumn.

However, I understand that I might be out of action for a few hours while Bill Gates installs the latest software update to the nanobots.

RussG 18 Jun 2021 10:27

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Originally Posted by TheWarden (Post 620987)
Had my 2nd AZ, slight sore arm. Looking forward to travelling again this autumn.

However, I understand that I might be out of action for a few hours while Bill Gates installs the latest software update to the nanobots.

Did i read somewhere that Morocco is opening uo to fully vacinnated people?
This Delta vairant was another balls up/snatch defeat from the jaws of victory but from what I've observed to date it will also become the dominant variant in Europe

Piha 18 Jun 2021 10:28

I had my 2nd AZ jab last week and no side effects whatsoever. In and out in less than 3 minutes and then just carried on with my regular daily business. 1st jab I felt very tired the following day.

TheWarden 18 Jun 2021 10:38

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Originally Posted by RussG (Post 620989)
Did i read somewhere that Morocco is opening uo to fully vacinnated people?
This Delta vairant was another balls up/snatch defeat from the jaws of victory but from what I've observed to date it will also become the dominant variant in Europe

Yes you did (probably one of my updates somewhere) Ferries not fully running though which is a pain.

Mezo 18 Jun 2021 10:40

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Originally Posted by RussG (Post 620986)
My wife and I had our 2nd AstraZeneca vaccine a few weeks ago. Zero side effects.

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Originally Posted by TheWarden (Post 620987)
Had my 2nd AZ, slight sore arm.

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Originally Posted by Piha (Post 620990)
I had my 2nd AZ jab last week and no side effects whatsoever.

Nobody said their ages? im almost 55 (so right in the middle) of this new advice from the Australian medical guys, if you're over 60 it's not an issue they reckon. (for AZ)

Mezo.

RussG 18 Jun 2021 11:40

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Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 620992)
Nobody said their ages? im almost 55 (so right in the middle) of this new advice from the Australian medical guys, if you're over 60 it's not an issue they reckon. (for AZ)

Mezo.

Me 59. Nothing with first or second dose.
Wife 54. Flu like with first dose. Nothing with 2nd.
Son 31 had AZ. Very high temp. for a few hours. He had Covid pre vaccine and it seems that you do get more extreme side effects if you have had it.
Son 29 AZ. Nothing.
Daughter 27 AZ. Flu like side effects for a day. She had Covid pre vaccine.
Daughter 23. Phizer. Side effects, as previous post

Jay_Benson 18 Jun 2021 12:31

Me (58) AZ 1st dose - slightly woozy feeling for an hour cured with a cup of tea and a paracetemol. 2nd dose - nothing at all but I did make sure I had a cup of tea beforehand just to be on the safe side

Wife, 51 - AZ 1st dose - felt mild flu like symptoms for a few hours - sleep, paracetemol and a cup of tea sorted it. 2nd dose - no reaction.

Daughter, 22 Phizer 1st dose - mild flu like symptoms for half a day. 2nd dose - no reaction

Daughter, 21 AZ - 1st dose slightly woozy feeling for half a day. 2nd dose - no reaction

Son, 17 Phizer - 1st dose - no reaction. Not had his 2nd dose yet

The biggest risks that are out there are minor in comparison to not having the vaccine. The risks associated with oral contraception are far, far higher than the vaccine.

ouroboros2015 18 Jun 2021 13:02

Me (51). Oxford/AZ: 1st dose= Sore arm at site of injection and "hangover" type symptoms the next day (which, to be fair could have been a hangover)
2nd dose= nothing, not even a sore arm.
AND Bill Gates hasn't found me yet!:innocent:

Jay_Benson 18 Jun 2021 13:10

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Originally Posted by ouroboros2015 (Post 620998)
Me (51). Oxford/AZ: 1st dose= Sore arm at site of injection and "hangover" type symptoms the next day (which, to be fair could have been a hangover)
2nd dose= nothing, not even a sore arm.
AND Bill Gates hasn't found me yet!:innocent:

I forgot to mention that I now have really good 5G reception - pity my phone isn't 5G though. Bill says "Hi" by the way, he knows where you are but just hasn't had time to contact you.

Bones667 18 Jun 2021 13:13

Me 54 - AZ - Headache and sore arm 1st jab. Mild fatigue on 2nd jab

Wife 52 - AZ - Similar to above

Daughter 22 - AZ - 1st jab had bad flue symptoms for 3 days. Mild fatigue on 2nd jab

Daughter 27 - Phizer - Mild Headache and sore arm 1st jab. Not had 2nd jab yet


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