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Take a chillaxative !! :Beach: I'm sure there are some who get very elitist over the subject but they just look like over extremist "image" riders in themselves ! It does a full circle ! |
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Hardcore and Wannabe are too often bandied about, unpaved and uneven roads in Romania,camping in a storm and people think they are 'hardcore' For Hardcore travel try Lois Pryce's trip to South Africa solo, perhaps even the Mondo Enduro/Terra Circa trips(although 'team handed'), how about Rosie Swale Pope....running around the world?. Wannabes, well, I wannabe a multi millionaire and I wannabe the owner of Crystal Palace football club. When you have done something that you think is 'Hardcore' and want to tell people, try telling it to members of the armed forces in Iraq or Afghanistan that don't know if the next day will be their last. people that go on waffling about Wannabes are often people that have already done a trip which they then think as elevated them to the status of 'Hardcore'. :nono: |
I remember the first time I went to Norway, riding my TDM on gravel. It felt pretty hardcore to me at the time. The feeling didn't last very long though as 2 guys on Buells came past me going the other way!
It's all relative to what you've known before. Africa would seem very hardcore for me right now, far outside my comfort zone but for a lot on here it's a walk in the park. As for a wannabe, I just wannabe loved!! Ha ha. |
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The daily budget factor should deal with the europe versus africa thing. Other variables I can think of: - Average number of days between showers - Average number of days between proper toilets - number of times you had to do with the hose/can provided in the smallest room - Succesive days being stuck at/between borders - number of languages where you can use ask the road in and order food ... How do we quantify the daily expenditure? |
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For me a wanabee is someone who would like to do something but his current situation makes him or her scared to take the plunge. For most enterprises, the most difficult part is getting out off your armchair. If asked I would describe myself as a motorcyclist. Sometimes I take a ten mile ride and enjoy it, sometimes a lot farther. I just want to ride and enjoy my ride, so in mid winter when it is chucking it down I'd rather be beside my wood burning stove sipping a glass of Bowmores. Life is for enjoying, whatever way you do that is the right way.
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Please dont get too serious the whole thread was aimed at having (in parts at ones self) a laugh about opinions of others and how we see the world we live in.
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Wannabee or hardcore?
In 2007 I spent 3 months travelling round Europe,just me & my tent & my bike (ok,a mate was with me for first 6 weeks) upshot is I loved it,since then have been planning my next BIG trip,hopefully to Mongolia via Scandinavia,Russia etc,does this make me a wannabee? Frankly I dont care,it is MY little dream,one that I am determined to make reality. RTW next? Who knows? I refuse to be pigeon holed.
Dream the big one,all the best; Andy |
Most of the guys I know in the local club here aren't wannabe's. True, they might buy the big 1200 GS and hardly ever get it off the pavement, but they're great people doing exactly what they want to do, not wishing they were someone/thing else. I'm totally in favor of that. If you want to haul a trailer with your bike, go for it. If you only want to stay in motels, fine. If you love to sleep out in the rain with no shelter, who cares?
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Ride your own ride.............shu (I just re read this. I think I'm guilty of getting too serious, Trix. :rolleyes2:) |
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Hey Ted - if you hear a guy in the bar say the same thing over and over and over again people do draw conclusions though. Might be worth thinking about .... |
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The pseudo-elitism and inverted snobbery that surface in these forums from time to time really doesn't reflect well on some of you guys. Trying to pass it off as light-hearted banter is a bit limp, IMHO - at least have the bollocks to admit you're a knob or have said something knob-ish. And in case anyone is wondering, I don't ride a 1200GSA; in fact, I don't even have a bike at the moment....(but it will be a Tenere when it comes - the 660). Sherlock :D |
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You can never draw judgements and opinions from idle type and it would be very poor judgement to do so.. :funmeterno: I remember sitting around a table, drinking beers and having a fantatastic time with some peopple who had met up and spent a few days riding together. (off another forum). Really great guys. The subject changed to our forum names and people were shocked at the opinions we had drawn of each other before meeting and they were TOTALLY inaccurate ! 2 of the guys were always at each each others throats on the forum turned out to get on great and are now regular riding partners. If you'd ever met me, you'd know I am far from elistist or judgemental... I'm just a bit of a dreamer and a plonker and really couldn't care less about many futile things.. I'm only on here so much as i've dislocated my knee, can't play out and I'm saving all my pennies for the next trip.. As you say, it might be worth thinking about !!! :smartass: :mchappy: |
I AM A WANNABE
I wannabe traveling around the would. I wannabe with my wife (who isn't a wannabe) I wannabe outta negative equity on my property I wannabe not working for a big corporation I wannabe not having too support my kids I wannabe dreaming of maybe not being a wannabe And one fine day I will no longer be a wannabe, but doing |
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