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WANDRR 5 Aug 2019 20:50

Algeria
 
What is the current situation riding across northern Algeria from Morocco to Tunisia? Any issues at the moment?

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markharf 5 Aug 2019 22:17

You mean, beginning with the fact that you cannot enter Algeria from Morocco?

PanEuropean 9 Aug 2019 23:23

Greg:

As Mark mentioned in his post above, you can't enter Algeria from Morocco. The two countries are not on the friendliest terms with each other.

I was in Morocco this past spring, riding near the Algerian border - it is heavily fortified.

The only way to get from Morocco to Tunisia is by sea - probably via a stopover in Spain, France, or Italy.

Don't be disappointed - there is nothing to see in Algeria that you can't see in Morocco or Tunisia. I worked in Algeria about 20 years ago, down in the south - it's not quite the arsehole of the world, but it's darn close to it.

Michael

dooby 13 Aug 2019 16:40

He can take a ferry from Morocco to Spain, France or to Genoa Italy and then take a ferry to Algeria.
Ferries from Spain and France operate year around, and from Genoa in summer.
Ports are the following:

Oran, Algeri, Annaba and Skikda and there is 3-4 companies operating the routes.

Cheers
Dooby

vtbeemer 14 Aug 2019 02:22

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Originally Posted by dooby (Post 603248)
He can take a ferry from Morocco to Spain, France or to Genoa Italy and then take a ferry to Algeria.
Ferries from Spain and France operate year around, and from Genoa in summer.
Ports are the following:

Oran, Algeri, Annaba and Skikda and there is 3-4 companies operating the routes.

Cheers
Dooby


That’s interesting. I’m looking at taking a ferry from maybe Sardinia to Tunisia. Do you think an American can land on a ferry into Algeria then cross to Tunisia?
Im guessing I would still need a guide or join a tour.

Dan

Chris Scott 22 Aug 2019 12:02

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Being an American ought not be a problem.
It's not like Iran, etc.
In my experience you are able to get visas with less difficulty than Brits.
The tricky bit is obtaining the visa without a CdH (proof of lodging or an escort itinerary).
See what the US consulate requires.

https://sahara-overland.com/algeria-3/

Technically, in the north (not Sahara) you don't need an escort but very few manage to get out of the border without one and it's exceedingly rare anyway.

Another thing to know is that northeast Algeria and parts of the Tunisian border are where jihadists hang out. Nothing like on the scale of the Sahel and roadblocks will stop you wandering into dodgy areas.
You could cross high - near the Med (never done it), or low at El Oued Nefra.
Avoid both sides of the border area in between.

As a seamless transit from Morocco is not possible, you have to wonder if the expense (2 x €500+ ferries + escort?) for a couple of days border-to-border is worth it.
Better to make the most of the visa and cough up for an escorted ride down to Djanet and the famous sign beyond (below, 2018). Allow at least 10 days and €2000 for the escort. Fuel is among the cheapest in the world. other costs minimal too.

Having travelled all over the south for nearly 40 years with motos, 4x4s and camels, I couldn't agree less with PanEuropean's negative impression of Algeria or comparisons with its neighbours which I also know well.
Most Sahara travellers would feel the same way.
It's just a huge shame travel down there is so restricted at the moment.

PanEuropean 26 Aug 2019 07:39

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Originally Posted by Chris Scott (Post 603545)
...I couldn't agree less with PanEuropean's negative impression of Algeria or comparisons with its neighbours which I also know well.

Hello Chris:

Maybe Algeria has changed since I worked there in 2000 - 2001. I was based in numerous locations all over the country (Hassi Messaoud, Ouargla, In Salah, In Amenas, Ghardaia), and had the opportunity to see pretty much all the country in the course of my work as an aircraft pilot.

I found the government to be insufferable - in particular, customs & immigration - and I didn't see any geographic features in Algeria that can't be found in more hospitable countries such as Morocco & Tunisia.

At the time I was there, there was a lot of conflict. We used to remark that we didn't need to look for the (non-existent) windsock at the airports - we just had to look and see which way the heads were rolling across the runway.

Sorry to disagree, but in my opinion there are much more pleasant places to spend time in when in North Africa - Morocco, former Western Sahara, Tunisia, and Libya (if things ever settle down there). All of which are countries I have both lived in and worked in.

Michael

dooby 16 Sep 2019 08:06

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Originally Posted by vtbeemer (Post 603261)
That’s interesting. I’m looking at taking a ferry from maybe Sardinia to Tunisia. Do you think an American can land on a ferry into Algeria then cross to Tunisia?
Im guessing I would still need a guide or join a tour.

Dan

Hi Dan,

Guide is needed that's correct.

You can get on the ferry, you need a visa right, that I think i need mentioning but maybe someone else is reading and could get into trouble if it doesn't get one.

BR
Dooby

WANDRR 16 Sep 2019 13:16

Thanks for all the info. Looks like I may just stay west coast and head south.

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