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Russia, Sanctions, Credit Cards & ATMs
With the EU and the US initiating sanctions against Russia, arising from the developments in Ukraine and Crimea, we are seeing an impact on our access to funds as we cross Russia.
Mastercard and Visa have withdrawn all services from Russia so we can forget any hope of using credit cards in the country. Similarly, ATM cards are unlikely to be supported, although it has been suggested that we may still be able to get funds from a Citi Bank ATM (don't want to gamble on that possibility though). Looks like we're going to have to carry sufficient cash to get us through Russia! |
Credit Cards
The main question are the credit cards blocked for Russians citizens or everyone who want to make payment on Russian territory???
We will go to Turkmenistan and Iran in April/May and we will go throught Russia. During my last trips in 2012 and 2013 I had no problems with ATM's and credit cards. Do anybody know more about this problem?? Bartosz [url=http://www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl]Wyprawy 4 |
Are you sure its all services?
From what I can gather, its only related to certain banks, not across the board, such as Rossiya Bank because they are allegedly associated to Putin, or his close associates. I think it is more of a attempt to prevent Russian customers from accessing their funds, especially overseas. To be honest, it would be interesting to hear from someone actually in Russia what the situation really is, not what Western media are telling us. |
The information that we were given from a bank was that we would not be able to use our cards at a Russian bank but that 'Citi Russia' should be able to take our cards.
Whatever situation existed in 2012, 2013, or two weeks ago is no longer relevant, as mastercard and visa only just withdrew services as part of the sanctions. Hopefully the situation will be clarified in the next week or so but, in the meantime, I'd suggest that travellers prepare for the possibility that no cards will be accepted in Russia. |
This BBC news story suggests that 99%v of visa services in Russia are unaffected by the sanctions. BBC News - Visa and MasterCard block Russian bank customers
However, these latest restrictions occurred without any warning, so it is entirely possible that the restrictions could expand beyond the banks that are currently affected. Worth watching developments! |
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who is affected and how. The why doesn't really matter becuase there is nothing any of us can do about it. :cursing: Discussing it here will just make it harder to find the facts travelers need! We can start a new thread on the topic of who did what wrong and why on the HUBB Pub, where anything goes. |
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I agree with you Rover, however I doubt the situation will be clarified that quickly, I think if I was planning a long Russian transit this year I would ensure that I had sufficient cash in hand to get out across the border if a total sanction on VISA/Mastercard transactions occurred suddenly, however likely/unlikely it may be. Recently in Ireland one of the major banks ceased issuing any funds for about a day to customers and it was amazing how many people got caught out who were 50 miles from home not 5000 miles. It actually shocked me personally how many people are clearly totally dependent on electronic banking systems and just take it for granted how they will never 'let you down'. I wouldn't go anywhere without access to a bit of 'real currency' for an emergency. Hopefully the above is sufficiently apolitical so as not to offend (I have also edited my first post for the same reason) :clap::clap::clap: |
I have always advocated carrying a significant amount of cash (euro is king in the eastern Europe area) and using that rather than cards. I then spread it around myself and my truck, keeping a little bit for 'mugging money' (a habit from living in central manchester for several years! Enough to keep them happy so you don't get filled in, but not so much it's a disaster) and also my 'police fines' money in a different pocket(usually no more than 20e)
Although this was seen as being a technical ludite in another thread by some who feel nothing more than a couple of credit cards and a pair of pants are needed to travel, cash talks. You can always change cash, many places will even let you pay in euros in an emergency, although the rate will be crap and, apart from sudden unexpected problems like this the reality is, the more you use your card, the more likely you are to end up being a victim of card fraud (I had someone try to withdraw £700 on my card in Russia 6 months or so after leaving the Ukraine, fortunately the bank rang me before clearing the transaction). My personal advice would always be, withdraw cash from a bank (after checking the machine carefully) and then use cash to pay for hotels, fuel etc, always. Keep the card for emergencies. Garages especially are notorious for stealing card details (it even happened in the UK shortly after chip and pin was introduced) You can probably get a good rate in country if you have euros because everyone will be wanting to have their money in a relatively stable currency |
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And there was me thinking i was alone on doing this also. "Police fines" money i love this one, when i get stopped for a traffic offence or somethink eles i am in the wrong for and say "can i pay a fine" with a smile :D |
The sanctioned banks have a minuscule portion of the market and I'd be surprised if many westerners were affected while travelling through Russia--you'd have to search long and hard for one of the bank's ATMs, and anyway one of the banks said that it's ATMs work fine (within Russia).
I would probably slightly increase my carried cash but certainly not plan to bring all required cash with me, which I view as significantly more risky. As usual, the best thing to do is to bring a couple of different cards with you, so that if you have a problem with one, another should work. Of course this could change if wider sanctions are imposed. |
This link might help. It seems visitors will not be affected ...... so far.
Hoping for Magadan and back starting at the end of April would need a shed load of cash if ATMs not working. Boycie Russian Banks Face Problems With Visa, MasterCard on U.S. Sanctions - WSJ.com |
Just wondering how Credit and Debit cards are at the moment in Russia? Or would it be better to carry cash
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ATMs work
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Great. Hate carrying cash at the best of times No man is truly married until he understands every word his wife is NOT saying. |
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