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Walkabout 12 Mar 2015 10:31

All good stuff gentlemen; please keep this type of useful technical information flowing!

I do remember the original introduction of ABS, in the UK anyway, to BMW bikes - and it was innovative.
They used demo videos (or whatever tech that was back then; 16mm tape??) of K bikes sliding about on skid pans with outriggers fitted to the bikes so that they did not actually fall over when braking hard (fitted to those bikes which did not have ABS).
The stopping distance results were impressive, but of no interest to the "old timers" of the day.

Incidentally, a OBD2 bit of kit is sold on ebay for about £10.

As I understand it, all of the servicing records of BMW bikes are not held by the local servicing garage but are sent back to the big server in Berlin.
Car manufacturers are doing similar things.

Walkabout 12 Mar 2015 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 498243)
In 2003 (or so) when Yamaha introduced the FJR1300, Yamaha simply used a shaft drive system they'd used on their cruiser models back in the 80's.

I had that same drive line on my XJ900, manufactured in 2001 (and earlier of course); as you say, it is still used today for the FJR.
It is a neat looking, compact final drive which never seems to give problems used on the highway.

Threewheelbonnie 12 Mar 2015 13:50

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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 498269)
As I understand it, all of the servicing records of BMW bikes are not held by the local servicing garage but are sent back to the big server in Berlin.
Car manufacturers are doing similar things.

Makes sense if you have parameter files. Say they change a sensor and the new one is slightly different because the manufacturer has changed. You want them to fix the problem, not use old stock or simply show you the door. The new bit can work if the electronics are told about it. You don't want the change reversing when you have oil changed at a different workshop. If you fit a bit yourself and it just works, no problem.

What we really want is legislation to make you the owner of the data. Then any workshop with the tools can do the vehicle change and the record update.

The iRIPOFF model is winning though, you rent the parameter files.

Andy

ta-rider 12 Mar 2015 17:50

BMW recalls 300,000 R and K models | MCN

BMW recalls 300,000 bikes - Motorcycle news : General news - Visordown

*Touring Ted* 14 Mar 2015 20:31

I love how every BMW recall is always someone else's fault....

Threewheelbonnie 15 Mar 2015 20:38

It's the ultimate riding machine, therefore any fault must lie elsewhere.

Lawyers and marketing, logic Stephen Hawking would struggle with!

Andy


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