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Morocco - Oct '09
Hi,
I'm planning a trip to Morocco this October where id like to ride several of the routes in Chris Scotts - Sahara Overland book. It would be great to have some contacts who will be out there the same time as me, even better would be a riding partner... I'm flexible with my plans once in Morocco :), but basically ill be riding down from Sheffield to Portsmouth and get the ferry to Santander then ride down through Spain (I have accommodation in southern Spain) and hop on the boat to Ceuta. So, i would love to hear from anyone who is planning a similar journey, please get in touch! Stephen. |
If you are down that way at the end of October, the Heroes-Legend Rally will be passing though Morocco via Nador and the east side of the country (Erg Chebbi etc), then across the bottom and close to Quarzazate, before heading down to Western Sahara and Mauritania...
I'll be the one on the Yamaha Tenere... xxx |
At this stage i cant say for sure where ill be at that time, but you never know :scooter:
Hopefully though there will be others riding around Morocco at that time who i will meet up with... |
SteveB, How long do you think your trip will be? I have been interested in going to morocco for awhile. Timing is a little cruitial, and unfortunately I don't have a ton of it. I was thinking that I would try to do something over the holidays in Dec, but that no longer looks to be possible. I might be able to do something in late Oct or Nov. As it gets closer to that time I will know more.
Whats your plan for Morocco. Exlpore and camp, or base at a few hotels and mostly do day rides out and around? Lets stay in touch and maybe I can join you. My work schedule is a little volatile, so it can be hard to plan that far out. BFM |
Hey BFM,
Time is my problem too! I have to fit this trip in around work so im using all my 15 days holiday i have, plus another 3 days unpaid, so i have 18 days in total. Im looking to leave the UK for Spain on the 30th Sep and return 22nd Oct. With regards to my plans in Morocco im leaning more towards exploring and camping, and perhaps staying in Hotels where i find them and want a change from camping. My plans are quite 'loose' atm tbh :) What are your plans once in Morocco? Would you be able to get those dates off (or aroundabouts)? It would be great to meet up somewhere along the way for part or all the journey, so please let me know. Stephen |
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JMO, this is a dreadful thread hijack but have you entered the Heroes on your Tenere ?
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Yes, I will be on a new Tenere - it will have a few mods to the suspension and wheelset to cope, but otherwise be pretty stock... It's proved to be an excellent long-distance travel bike, and I trust it will be equally good as (the basis of) a long distance rally bike too... Of course it's a shame ASO have dropped the open class bikes from 2010, but then for me it is all about the romance of actually racing (from Paris) to Dakar anyway... xxx |
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As he slithered topless from his tent her eyes were fixed upon his torso, and later whilst she sat with friends in a circle like Indian warriors, he rode onto the camp, and like a schoolgirl bursting to be excused from class her hand shot skywards, in a wave to her prey, others around filled breakfast bowls of cereal, her heart was only filled with anticipation, will they find love on the Pyreknees up, or will she hunt me down instead? |
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Excellent! xxx ps. this really is a thread hijack now x |
Hi Jen
What is your race number for the Heroes legends? Any idea why Stephane Peterhansel is race director, what happened to Hubert Auriol? How about starting your own thread, or will you continue to hijack? :thumbup1: |
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I believe I am number 041, but that might just be the admin number - I'll be in the Open Moto catagory... As far as I can see, Stephane Peterhansel took over for two reasons: the first is that Hubert Auriol has started his own event (Africa Race) which ran the first edition this January (which is perhaps one of the reasons Heroes Legend moved towards the end of this year?, it was originally in March). The second is that they wanted to expand the classes in HL - presumably the number of Classic entries was declining (after all, this event has run for three previous editions, and perhaps the Classic riders have felt they have achieved all they can in that regard?) From what I understand, the course/road book for this year is going to be more 'adventurous' than previous editions... but then they all say that don't they? It will be interesting to see how the Africa Race stacks up against the Heroes Legend - certainly the AR website is very fancy (even if they have added the dreaded 'Eco' word to their title this year) - and because of the time of year they run it (end of December/early Jan), it is rather nobly being billed (by those Yankees over on ADV rider at least) as a 'replacement' for the original ASO event that happened to be held that time of year... However, as some wag pointed out - 8 moto entries does not make an international event! Of course it is still in it's early stages, (and little acorns etc etc), but unless KTM do get on board with them, then I can't see how the privateer contingent can support two African rallies basically doing the same route? - especially as the HL does actually go all the way from Paris to Dakar, like the good old days x Anyways, I've nailed my colours to the mast for Heroes Legend this year - I think it especially relevant that Peterhansel is race director, and I'm riding a Tenere on the 'classic' Dakar route - that's more than enough for me! xxx |
StevieB,
Well, not to interupt the hijacked thread, ;-} As for the dates. I will have to look at them at work. I think I will be in Corsica till Oct 9th. I will probably have about the same amount of time that I can take off, but I don't think I can start until after I get back from Corsica. If you were to back the dates up a bit to Mid October, I could probably join you in Spain. I hate to ask you to do that because with my work things could change and I would suck to leave you hanging last minute. Keep in touch and as it gets closer I might be able to firm things up with my schedule. Oct. is too far out at this point to be sure of anything. I was thinking of pretty much doing the same. I would like to do some camping and some hotels. I just got my BMW F800 GS a few months ago. The plan was to spend the summer getting it set up for a long trip by taking lots of smaller trips. So far, that really hasn't come to fruition with work and all. I did finally get some Touratech panniers and some other goodies. I still have the stock tires on it, so I probably need to put some sort of knobbies on it for a Morocco trip. What are you riding? Have you done any of these kind of trips before? I have not. I rode motocross when I was kid, and then got into sport bikes in college. Now I am looking to do adventure travel, so that is why I bought the 800GS. I haven't really had a chance to do much of it, but that is why I am on the forum. The hardest part for me is finding the time to take the trips. I am going to try to ride down to Italy the last week of July (for work). Hopefully I will get a feel for how to pack the bike on that trip. I will be tied up all of August so there won't be any traveling then. The Corsica trip isn't 100% yet, so it will be a matter of waiting to see until it gets closer. I have to admit, I don't know much about Morocco. Other than just wanting to go and thinking it would be fun, I am not sure what to do there. I hear the mountains are great riding, but probably will be cool to cold in Sept/Oct. What are your thoughts? BFM |
BFM,
I dont mind re-jigging the dates...if you did decide to join up with me but couldn't at the last minute i would just go on my own - but off-course it would be great to have you along. The only thing is the ferry tickets to/from Santander, id need to purchase these at some point for a specific date and once id got them i doubt i could change the dates without a cost involved. But there is plenty of time yet that i can hold of getting these, i think. I had too smile when reading your last post it sounds like your in exactly the same position as me! I too have just recently got my bike for this trip and have no experience of adventure riding on a motorbike, but its just something i fancy doing now. I have been riding for about 4 years now so i have some experience but am lacking the off-road ability, but im sure i can pick that up quickly. I have been to Morocco twice before so have some idea what it will be like. The bike i got is a Suzuki DR650 SE its a fairly new model and conveniently already had a large fuel tank and decent bash plate fitted when i brought it. I've still got a fair few items to purchase for the trip but as far as i can see its just a matter of choosing the right gear, spending the money and throwing it in the bags. I need to choose some good tyres too. Im going to buy some soft luggage and will take as little as possible as i want to travel light. I think Sep/Oct would be an alright time to go. I did a quick search and it seems that for morocco your looking at a max. temperature of around 28 oC over in the UK at the moment we have similar temperatures - and it does feel quite hot. The mountains would be cooler like you say and i think that is definitely a good thing in the day time - im guessing at night it gets alot colder. Im just wanting to get out there have a bit of an adventure, explore around and enjoy it. I know its not going to be 'holiday' and may be hard going/frustrating at times but i fancy a bit of a challenge and its one of the reasons im going tbh. If you could get some firm dates off from work it would be better, otherwise we could arrange to meet up nearer the time so please let me know. Stephen. |
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HI Stephen,
just sat here thinking what i can do October, I may be interested if you want a riding partner. Travelled a fair bit in Europe but never touched Morocco.Retired 56, time not a issue, riding a GSA 1200. Let me . Regards Mel:thumbup1: |
Hi Mel,
You'd be more than welcome to join me. Would you be able to do those dates i suggested? I really need to properly plan my route through Morocco, did you have anything in mind once there? Stephen. |
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Hi Stephen,
Sorry for delay in responding, i rode down to South Wales on Friday to brush up on my off road skills with Simon Pavey and his gang (BMW ORS). Unfortunately i had a major off yesterday afternoon and Broke my collar bone ,ended up in Hereford Hospital, back home now bored out of my pants with 6 weeks recovery time ahead of me. I am really open to any Ideas regarding routing etc, I'm up for any adventure. I also have accommodation 1 hour north of Alicante and have done the Santander crossing a few times. What kind of time duration are you looking at? Whats your preference on accomadation? I'm really a flexable guy wether it's Hotel,B&B,Hostel,Camping. I'm not that knowledgable about Morocco so i will need to do some digging and investigating. Regards Mel |
This sounds like just what I'm looking for too. I've done mucho riding round France / Spain etc (like 20,000 miles at a guess) but like you have recently bought an 'adventure' bike and am up for something a little further afield and more challenging than 3 days in the Alps! Luckily I bought an F800GS with all the go further bits added, so I just need to get on and go.
I've been looking at the proper organised tours, and they all want upwards of £1000, and that's AFTER you get yourself to southern Spain!:eek3: I'm sure it can be done much cheaper than this - have you considered costs yet? |
Thanks for everyone's reply's so far, it looks like there may be a few of us up for this trip which is really great! I am going to spend this weekend putting a rough route together, i will post it so people can suggest changes if they want.
Mel- Sorry to here about your off, hope you make a speedy recovery. Ive got a little over 3 weeks to do this trip and a few of those days will be spent travelling to and from Morocco...I would like to do a bit of camping, but it sounds like there are many cheap hotels around...Feel free to suggest a route once you have done some investigating. Dave - tbh i haven't really got a budget as such in terms of a figure but im keeping a spreadsheet of everything im spending for this trip. I guess all the kit i buy will come in useful for other trips and activities - i do want to do it as cheaply as possible but not at the cost of poor quality kit. I notice your in Witney, my parents live in Oxford and i sometimes go back there for the weekend - we'll have to meet up sometime and discuss ideas! I realise i could go on one of those tours but part of the attraction for me is that i plan everything and decide where to go and what to do etc. Stephen |
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hi Stephen,
i will also spend some time this week re-searching Morocco, there are only really a couple of options for the Spanish bit due to time scale. There is always the option of Billys Bike Truck ,but he goes i believe in September, he picks your bike up, delivers it to Malaga, where you get a cheap Ryanair flight too, do the trip to Morocco return to Malaga,Fly back,Cost £500.00 to £550.00. I'm sure It's the end of September because the kids are back at school and the flights are cheaper. If you analyze the cost you can't ride there and back for that money taking into account Ferries overnight accommodation ,Fuel etc, just something to throw into the ideas box. Stephen just give me a few days notice when you have a meet up with Dave and i will have a ride down to Witney. Regards Mel |
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Hi Dave/Mel,
I'm going to be riding down to Oxford next Friday and will be staying over at my parents for the weekend. Im going to the Air Tatoo @ Fairford on Saturday, but can i suggest we all meet up on Sunday? Please let me know if your up for this and we can arrange a place and time. Ive had a look at the biketruck website, your right it is a good price will have to see. Cheers Stephen. |
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Hi Stephen/Dave
Sorry can't make Sunday, we have a flight booked to Spain leaving this Friday returning the 27thJuly. I've started to compile knowledge sheets and maps of Morocco with a few idea's to run past you guys. I see Chris Scott was publishing a new book with more new routes (out early 2009) ,Steve have you got this latest edition ? I bumped into the bike truck guy at the Ted Simon night at Touratech, it does make a lot of sense doing it that way but obviously it has to work for all parties as he has set the dates, if you think it may be of interest just give the guy a courtesy phone call and he will explain in detail how it all works, he does this on a regular basis and seems to have a good following. Really sorry about next Sunday , i think this is our first vacation since before Xmas so i can't move it around (sods law), to my knowledge i have nothing going on after the 27th so i will be free for a meet up. Mel |
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Hi Stephen,
That new book came out 30th June so i guess you have the previous eddition, I've orederd the new one anyway. If you do talk to Bike Truck the guy's name is Billy, I think he is from your neck of the woods. Regards Mel |
Can't do Sunday either I'm afraid!
The Bike truck thing is a great idea, but it seems he's going too early, I certainly can't do those dates. Does seem a tad expensive, as even allowing 1000 miles of extra riding, that still only equates to £75 (60mpg @ £4.50 per gallon). Throw in a couple of night stops at a half decent B&B and you're still only at £200. The ferry is still the better option I think, albeit you spend two days on there not on your bike! |
Hi,
Yeh the book i got is Sahara Overland, i literally just recieved it then found there is the new book, Morocco Overland, which would be more suitable for what i want to do!! ah well... I imagine most of the information on preparation etc. is similar but i think it has some different and better? routes in Morocco. Mel, let us know what you think of the book when you get it, am tempted to buy it anyway if its good. I brought a map of Morocco at the weekend (Mitchelin 742) so hopefully i will post a route soon! Id be be interested to hear your ideas for a route too... :) Regarding the meet we'll just have to arrange some other time when everyone is free. Stephen. |
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Hi Stephen / Dave
It's a shame those dates are too early as there is a cost and time saving. Both P&O and Brittany are quoting £300 to £330 return for the first few weeks in October . I don't think you will do central England to the departure port in Spain in 1000 miles there and back , I've done the Santander route numerous times and then drove to Alicante and I'm sure that leg is approx 600 miles that's without going further south and the road leg in the U/K. Also if you were thinking about some kind of trail riding in Morocco you could fit Enduro tyres before the trip . I reckon by the time you take into consideration fuel,food,accommodation and ferry you will be close to £700.00 this does not take into consideration wear and tare on Bike . Ryanair cost £78.00 Return plus Billy Bike Truck £500.00 to £550 Total less than £625.00 . I'm not really concerned about the price difference , it's being able to spend more time in Morocco without racing to get there and back. The only downside are the dates as you say Dave, I'm easy i can go at any time as long as my shoulder has healed in time. It may be time to exchange email address and phone numbers, have a think guys and let me know. ?c? :palm: |
Good point, I hadn't considered my maths was for a one way trip. Doh!
I'm afraid I really can't get leave from work for those dates, so it's the first three in October really (27th Sept onwards is fine). Maybe it's worth contacting the BIke Truck man to see if he'll do another date? He's due back on the 21st Sept... I've dropped him an email to find out his minimum numbers and any date flexibility. Dave. |
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Good thinking Batman. You never know.
Regards Mel |
Ive been doing some thinking and working out costs, while initially i wasnt too keen on the bike truck idea - im starting to change my mind.
At the moment the ferry to Santander is £200 return id say you could get 2 nights accommodation in Spain (1 there, 1 back) and food for £100. That just leaves fuel and using Daves calculation that would be £150 so that is £450 Total. Now time wise i reckon your looking at 3 days to get to the south of Spain and about the same back which equates to around 2000 miles and as much as i love Spain, this trip is about Morroco so we get more time there. I think the extra cost is worth it for the extra time we get for not having to ride down through Spain, and stuff like changing tyres to. So i just wonder about the dates now, i cant take anymore days of than i already have so there may be a problem there but i will get in touch with guy and see what he can do for around the dates i have booked off (30th Sep - 25th Oct) Cheers, Stephen. |
I'm going to book those same dates off work today, so at least we have one fixed point to work from!
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Hi Steve,
which ferry company quoted £200.00 I tried P&O and Brittany one was £308 and the other was £330.00 that included the cheapest inside cabin? Did any body manage to get an answer from Billy Bike Truck as I see his web page was down today? Regards Mel |
Not heard back from Billy yet no.
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Mel, it was brittany ferries, but without a cabin - which is an extra £100. I did say I wanted to do it as cheap as possible :)
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Hi Steve
I didn't know you could book the long crossing without a cabin i thought as you progressed with the booking process they made it mandatory. I'm all for doing it as cheap as poss. regards Mel |
Mel, I was able to just select a reclining seat for this journey. Its not as nice as having your own cabin, but for one night i think it would be ok, and is £100 cheaper.
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Hi Steve, and everyone else..
Me and a friend are off to Morocco in October... Plymouth-Santander on 5th, crossing into Morocco on 6th or 7th, depending how we get on. I went last year with Moto-Morocco and had a great time, but there were 16 of us in the group, which is not really my thing. If you want to meet up and have a beer and a chat sometime, I'm only down the road from you... there are lots of good campsites in the Peak district, with nearby hostelries :biggrin: We may be able to meet up over there, depending on when you're going. Cheers :thumbup1: |
Sounds good!
I've just heard from Billy the bike truck guy, who says he needs 15 or so bikes to lay a run on, so if we can drum up some more interest we might be lucky! |
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The longer we hold of buying ferry tickets the more its going to cost. Hi Ballistic, have you already booked your ferry tickets? :) Stephen. |
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hi Stephen/all,
I've looked at the thread a couple of times and I thought I could but I can't resist getting interested is the venture. Are you still looking for more people? I made a trip to Morocco in early may, three of us drove from Calais non stop in a van to Almeria (2300km) leaving the van there, then took the overnight boat to melilla/nador. The time was very limited as the organiser had to be back at work in 2 weeks. It was a full on piste riding experience down to erg chebbii/merzouga and on to tagounite and zagora. I was riding a Suzuki DRZ400 which was ok unless you wanted more power, the organiser favouring a modified DR800! I tried to take minimum luggage but was still overloaded. Had to carry extra fuel in a plastic can which worked fine. I really struggled to find a bigger tank. The third guy was riding a XR400, fine if travelling light with small throw over panniers. I've now got a yam XT660R as well which should be better for riding to morocco. Adrian. |
Hi Adrian,
Sure we're still interested in another rider. Five would be the most I think, and it'd be four if you and Mel both come along. Firm dates are Sept 30th from the UK, to be back here by October 25th. Right now StevieB and I have decided to spend the next week looking for alternatives to the ferry (to Santander) and if nothing turns up then we'll book the tickets on August 3rd. The plan is simply to head south to the Mountain region, and spend some time riding the trails. None of us have much (any) experience, so it won't be crazy stuff. We'll then take a few days to ride back North and see the sights we missed on the way down.:thumbup1: |
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It would be good to meet up over there... I know some really good pistes from last year... and I'm on a 1200GS Adventure. The plan to ride down to the south and "explore" back north is pretty much what I have in mind... and looking at Chris Scott's latest book, there's lots to do :mchappy: |
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hi all, theres three off us leaving scotland for morocco on the 3rd off october, hopefully be there for 6-7th , so if any off you guys are about could meet for a beer or ride together for a day maybe , were pretty much easy as to the route we are taking, looking to be a 2 and a half week trip for us.
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Hello All,
I’m looking at the monsoon outside here on the English Riviera! Should be gardening but as well as the weather I am nursing a sore knee which flared up again on Saturday. I unfortunately slid off in early may in Morocco and was lucky I could carry on for about another 60 miles of piste, an amazing ride but that was the end of my non tarmac experiences for that trip. So I’m in a similar boat to Mel, hoping it will be ok by the end of sept if I can wangle to come. Should be getting it looked at and scanned soon. I’m in Paignton, Devon, so the Plymouth ferry is favourate, but can meet in Portsmouth. Adrian |
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Hi all,
back from Spain and i can see we may have some adventurers which is good news, I'm in the same boat as you Adrian, it seems to be taking for ever to repair the muscles/ligaments,back to the Hospital on 13th August for another overhaul. I will be talking to Stephen over the next few hours to get an update and how we can progress further. Mel |
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which route are you taking over to morocco. regards Mel |
Ferry now booked!
Out on the 30th, back on the 22nd. |
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Hi Dave,
I've kept Adrian in the picture, just in case he's mended by then,he's quite happy to book his Ferry later. :thumbup1: Mel |
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Booked on the ferry to Bilbao from Portsmouth on the 03 October, driving through Spain then corssing intoTagier on probably 07 October. Spending about 14 days in Morocoo in a sort of clockwise circuit roughly; Tangier, Meknes, Erfoud, Marrakech then coast road back up to Tangier. Would be great to meet up if anyone else is there or there abouts in October. Gareth |
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Me and a mate are taking the Plymouth-Santander ferry on 4th October, stopping over in Salamanca on 5th and hopefully crossing over to Maroc on 6th, or maybe 7th, depending on how it goes. I'm riding a GS, he's on a (modified) Versys... I fancy doing more trails than he does, but we've no firm plans as yet, except changing to more rugged tyres when we get there. I went last year on an organised trip, so know a little about the place... where to go, where to stay etc. If you want to tag along, you're welcome... let me know and I'll give you some details. Brian |
that's a busy thread!
Me and my brother are going to be on the Portsmouth-Santander ferry on the 14th Oct, KTM and DR singles. First time in Africa on bikes, we have both been hitch hiking in Morocco some years ago. Heading down towards Dakar this time. No detailed plans yet Would be great to hook up with other travelling folk on the way! |
Hi,
I am also heading to Morocco in October, no ferry booked yet but i have sorted green card insurance starting on the 7th, so would be interested in meeting any one crossing over to Tangier/Ceuta around that time. I will be solo on a Africa Twin, i have been to morocco before on my own, but did not try any piste riding because of the danger involved in solo riding, so would like to try some pistes this time, i have know wish to drag a fully loaded Africa Twin up a mountain or through deep sand though. :mchappy:. |
Hi Guys.
I've got time off work End of September through to October and was going to do a European blast but Morocco would be much more of an adventure! Is there room for one more on this trip or have I left it to late? Cheers Phil |
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Looks like you'll be crossing about the same day as me. You're dead right about riding pistes on your own... not advisable :nono: See above... I'm going with a mate, but not sure how much piste riding he wants to do... If you fancy meeting up, it could be to our mutual advantage. I don't have a PM here, but you can email me on brhaywood 'at' ntlworld 'dot' com Where in the UK are you? I'm in NW Leicestershire. |
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were going dover calais then down east of paris, heading down barcelona , benidorm coast, leaving scotland 3 october so hopefully be at gibraltar 6th regards allan |
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Leave porsmouth 1st Sept for spain will be leaving spain cueta about 24th sept for maroc and then south to west africa glad to meet up with others for the journey or part riding 600 transalp not in any hurry
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Just read back through this thread and see you will be in the area at the same time, jolly decent of you to offer assistance, contact number would be appreciated:thumbup1::thumbup1:. |
Dammit, me and my big mouth. Although, I suspect I'll be asking for more help than I'll give, being as I fell off twice on one trip down the Ridgeway!:oops2:
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Thanks for everyone's reply's and enthusiasm. There are four of us going on this trip now, i think this is a good number so am not really looking for anyone else.
It sounds like half the UK will be out in there in Oct so am looking forward to saying hello to other peeps on the way down.:mchappy: Its been a great experience so far talking to people, planning the trip and getting everything ready i need, all made much easier with this great forum. Im sure Morroco will live up to expectations! Will hopefully post some pics up here when i get back. Now... just need to find a way to mount that pelican case to my rack, oh and need some tyres too, only a month to go now :D Stephen |
Right, that's it. We're off tomorrow. See y'all in a month! :o)
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Hello from Khenafir!
All going well so far, no cock ups, no breakdowns, no falling outs. :) Tomorrow is the start of the Atlas with the ride to Imilchil and the first half of Mr Scott's MH2. Fingers crossed! |
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