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Mart456 15 Jan 2015 12:34

Looks like we may get response from the FIA soon...

"Dear Mr McGown

Thank you for your correspondence and petition in relation to CPD issues,

I can confirm that this has been received in the office of the FIA President. This matter has been referred to the relevant staff within the FIA Administration for advice and the preparation of a response, as a matter of priority.

I expect that a substantive reply will be available in the very near future. "

Overland Tonka 15 Jan 2015 14:51

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Originally Posted by Mark hadley (Post 492132)
I use ADAC, I am very happy with them. They accept my membership, but I'm not sure if they "want" it. The whole way they are run and how they communicate is "run by Germans for Germans" For example the renewal paperwork is in German language only with bank instructions that only work if you have a German bank account. (So we phone up and use a credit card)

Or do what i did and marry a German...:D

If this Carnet stuff does not get sorted by August i may have to get her to call her sister in Germany...put a set of LHD lights in the truck....get a German Reg and then speak to the ADAC.

chris 15 Jan 2015 15:40

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Originally Posted by Mark hadley (Post 492047)
They have a strong German focus and mildly discourage non-German membership

As it's the "Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil Club" this isn't the biggest surprise.

They offer breakdown cover for the whole of Europe at no extra cost, as opposed to just the UK by the likes of the AA/RAC. Why would any German ever want to sign up with the parochial Inselaffen AA/RAC?

They don't discourage non-German membership at all: The English language membership page is at The membership in ADAC

Mart456 22 Jan 2015 14:45

Had a really good call with the FIA today, re carnets.

The conversation was positive and looking at ways to resolve the situation in the UK in regards to not having access to the same financing options and Carnet issuers as those in mainland Europe.

Hoping to have some more news in a week two, but they are listening and do understand our position!

Overland Tonka 23 Jan 2015 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart456 (Post 492986)
Had a really good call with the FIA today, re carnets.

The conversation was positive and looking at ways to resolve the situation in the UK in regards to not having access to the same financing options and Carnet issuers as those in mainland Europe.

Hoping to have some more news in a week two, but they are listening and do understand our position!

Super cool Mart...we all owe you a beer..

Dave Nunns 23 Jan 2015 20:04

Sounds really positive - thanks for all your hard work on this complex issue.

Dave

dooby 30 Jan 2015 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart456 (Post 492986)
Had a really good call with the FIA today, re carnets.

The conversation was positive and looking at ways to resolve the situation in the UK in regards to not having access to the same financing options and Carnet issuers as those in mainland Europe.

Hoping to have some more news in a week two, but they are listening and do understand our position!

Good to hear that, as soon as you put the pressure, petition etc, voila something can happen :thumbup1: . I'm glad I could help with signing the pet, keep us informed,

ride on
Dooby

Pumbaa 26 Feb 2015 19:22

Any more feedback on this? Hopefully some good news at some point in the future.

Overland Tonka 26 Feb 2015 19:50

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Originally Posted by Pumbaa (Post 496791)
Any more feedback on this? Hopefully some good news at some point in the future.

Yep..I am sitting here holding my breath..it's like waiting for your favourite TV series to begin a new season.

MeinMotorrad 1 Mar 2015 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 492169)
As it's the "Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil Club" this isn't the biggest surprise.

They offer breakdown cover for the whole of Europe at no extra cost, as opposed to just the UK by the likes of the AA/RAC. Why would any German ever want to sign up with the parochial Inselaffen AA/RAC?

They don't discourage non-German membership at all: The English language membership page is at The membership in ADAC


From the linked page -

"English translations are provided for your convenience only. Please understand that contract documents, form, terms & conditions and any other notices and information will generally be provided in German.

Using the links below to acquire ADAC membership requires that your place of residence is in Germany."

c-m 1 Mar 2015 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeinMotorrad (Post 497071)
From the linked page -

"English translations are provided for your convenience only. Please understand that contract documents, form, terms & conditions and any other notices and information will generally be provided in German.

Using the links below to acquire ADAC membership requires that your place of residence is in Germany."

That's why non-german residents just email them instead of trying to use the "links below"

Also the correspondence being in German isn't to discourage English speaking people any more than a till receipt from Boots is. It's hardly there fault that many native brits are ignorant when it comes to speaking another language.

Mart456 4 Mar 2015 21:53

Hi All

Just a quick update,

The FIA, have been looking into the situation and I presume have been discussing it with the RAC.

The FIA have an internal meeting planned this Friday, to discuss the matter, and have promised an update after that, which may be another week or two away.

Dave Nunns 5 Mar 2015 19:15

Frustrating... Great that they are discussing it, frustrating that I need to sort out a CdP in next couple of weeks.... If I pay the full price and then they change the rules I will not be a happy bunny.

Dave

Overland Tonka 5 Mar 2015 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Nunns (Post 497567)
Frustrating... Great that they are discussing it, frustrating that I need to sort out a CdP in next couple of weeks.... If I pay the full price and then they change the rules I will not be a happy bunny.

Dave

June is my deadline..and i am not holding my breath either.

Dave Nunns 23 Mar 2015 14:43

The Carnet man at the RAC has said to me this morning "RAC have no plans to change the price mechanisms of the Carnet documents at this time".

So, no movement, means I've gone ahead and applied under the current pricing structures :( I'd be interested to see what, if anything, the Canadian announcement, that says a centralised European authority will be in place by the 3rd quarter of 2015, will mean for future travellers.

Dave


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