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Ian 11 Sep 2002 02:02

Carnet for Russia?
 
Is one required? Or is there another means for temporary importation?

Thanks in advance

roamingyak 17 Sep 2002 00:40

I don't believe so.

I'm off to Mongolia via Russia and the 'stans and ADAC in Germany have said I don't need one. Pretty sure this is the case. I'm orgainsing them to send me one in Turkmenistan so that I can use it in Iran/Pakistan/India etc

If you find out what the situation is for getting a vehicle in Russia then could you drop me a line or post info here please? I'll do the same...

Cheers, Darrin

Sam Rutherford 24 Mar 2009 16:29

Reviving an old thread - confirmation anyone that a carnet is not needed for Russia?

Cheers, Sam.

MotoEdde 24 Mar 2009 16:57

Not needed as of August 2007. They issue you a temporary import permit when you enter and take back that permit, when you leave.

HTH

Kennichi 24 Mar 2009 17:11

No need for a carnet , however the russian customs guys will stamp next to your entry visa how long your motorbike can be imported on a temperory basis into Russia.

Learn to read some russian especially numbers, as the importation length is not always the same as your visa length is it decided on how long the customs dept thing you will need it for. 14 days is supposed to be the default length of time you can use your bike in Russia and you argue your case to the customs guys if you want longer.

Poor circulation were caught out by this when they got to Vladivostok, their visas were stamped with 3 days entry only for motorbike , in Vlad they were not allowed to leave for several days and were fined about $300 each IIRC. Oh and also a criminal record which may prejudice future visa applications.

Tony P 24 Mar 2009 17:58

No. No carnet required for Russia.

See this thread http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...o-russia-39374

Best thing to ensure the correct validity period of TIP is, having just bought Russian Road Insurance either at or in the town before the border, to show the Insurance Certificate to the Customs and get him to use those dates for the period of temporary importation.
Then all vehicle paperwork has same dates which will (possibly!:rolleyes2:) satisfy those stalwarts operating the ДПС bribe collection points.

motoreiter 24 Mar 2009 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony P (Post 234813)
Best thing to ensure the correct validity period of TIP is, having just bought Russian Road Insurance either at or in the town before the border, to show the Insurance Certificate to the Customs and get him to use those dates for the period of temporary importation.
Then all vehicle paperwork has same dates which will (possibly!:rolleyes2:) satisfy those stalwarts operating the ДПС bribe collection points.

Good idea Tony, hadn't thought of the insurance angle before!

farqhuar 25 Mar 2009 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kennichi (Post 234803)
No need for a carnet , however the russian customs guys will stamp next to your entry visa how long your motorbike can be imported on a temperory basis into Russia.

Learn to read some russian especially numbers, as the importation length is not always the same as your visa length is it decided on how long the customs dept thing you will need it for. 14 days is supposed to be the default length of time you can use your bike in Russia and you argue your case to the customs guys if you want longer.

Poor circulation were caught out by this when they got to Vladivostok, their visas were stamped with 3 days entry only for motorbike , in Vlad they were not allowed to leave for several days and were fined about $300 each IIRC. Oh and also a criminal record which may prejudice future visa applications.

Yes, I discovered this the hard way too. After re-entering Russia from Kazakhstan I assumed my bike permit matched my visa. It didn't and when I left from Russia into Finland I was harangued for being 3 days over. I ended up having to write a document (dictated to me by a friendly femail customs officer) saying I had fallen ill and was unable to ride, and was sorry for my misdemeanour.

This was accepted and I was allowed to leave an hour later without any fines or other punishment.

Garry from Oz.


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