2022 SORN / UK reg updates?
 

Hi all. This appears to be the only place where the question was answered in any detail.

What's the advice for 2022, post Brexit and everything, for long term (3+ years) overlanding with a UK registered / MOTd vehicle?

Any developments? or still "grey"?

As far as I am aware Brexit has changed little or nothing as far as this is concerned, vehicles should be legal in country of origin when used abroad which is impossible to do with an older UK vehicle due to the MOT requirement, unless you go totally retro with something more than 40 years old of course.
As has been said people still do longer trips with them with expired tax and MOT so the advice and opinion given before still stands.

The section about "leaving the country" here refers.

https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hu...352#post630603

Does anyone know what vehicle checks, if any, are made by CARS when issuing a Carnet de Passage? If a UK registered vehicle has been out of the country for more than 12 months on a SORN at home without insurance or tax, will this affect the issuing of a CdP?

I contacted CARS yesterday to ask for a quote and explained I'd be riding until 2026 and would only need the CDP at that point.
I was emailed the quote with the following conditions at the bottom saying:

"The vehicle must have been registered to you for at least 1 month and registered to your current address.


FYI: It is your responsibility to ensure your vehicle complies to UK regulations before travelling overseas https://www.gov.uk/taking-vehicles-out-of-uk"

I am not sure what CARS would do, if anything, at the start or at the end of the CDP process if the the bike does not comply to UK regulations at that point, which as we know from this thread it cannot comply if one is overlanding for over 12 months. I ought to ask but please let us know if you find out too.

Did you have any luck with the Carnet? I am in a situation of being out of the Uk with the bike since 2020 and want to get a carnet in the next few months

My plan is to tour Europe and further afield in "fits and starts" - riding the bike for a couple of weeks then storing it near a Low Cost airport before flying home for a few weeks, then back out to ride again and repeat. This may go on for more than 12 months.

To avoid the "MOT trap", I would buy new just before the trip so have 3 clear years before the bike needs to return to the UK.

UK insurance companies appear to cover the bike for up to 90 days outside UK (and by exception and with an increased premium up to 6 months).

My thought would be:
Year 1: Register, insure and tax bike in UK. After three months in EU, be in Italy and buy Frontier Insurance
Year 2: Insure and tax bike in UK (but never plan to use UK insurance). Buy Frontier Insurance for periods when riding
Year 3: As Year 2 but return bike to UK at end of year.

The DVLA issue re the bike being out of the country for more than 12 months remains.
Unsure if one can reinsure a bike that is outside the country at the time of renewal

Has anyone tried this?

DVLA's position that you should export and re-register the bike after 12 months is clearly unworkable for long journeys. I very much doubt they would know, or care, if the bike was out of the country as long as the insurance and tax paperwork was up to date (as you say a new bike avoids the 'MoT trap')

The only thing would be that your UK insurance won't cover you for more than 90 days out of 180 in the EU, but if you're buying a separate policy I don't see any problems. Just reinsure to keep it technically legal then once you're back in UK you have a policy in place and you're within its terms.