Bonneville or Scrambler
 

hello.
I've been visiting here, wanderlust raging...been watching the Scrambler leaning folk...I don't see it. Styling for market niche is different than real world use. a couple reasons I think the Bonneville is the better choice:
1. high pipes don't accept metal mule or any worthwhile carrying ability...while a Swiss Army knife does wonders, one really needs to carry more than that.
2. long distance requires a change of position...high pipes negate forward pegs...which in my case of horrible knees, is a luxury.
3.the high pipes make the right carb access impossible.
4. 270 firing is no answer to me when 360 is 98.5% of the question.

I just got rid of an 02 BMW RT in trade for this '07 T100. I know folks rave BMW...I didn't fall in love. too sophisticated for the boonies...too heavy...dealers suck...and I wasn't having fun changing 8 hydraulic brake circuits, and pulling it apart at 14K to see if the trans input spline was going out...only to find a weeping clutch slave...at 28K when the carbon buildup from too lean a mix became an issue, I had the last of that $17K "elite" machine. I understand the 05 dual spark fixed that issue, but I go by "fool me once, shame on you...twice, and you're fired"...bring me the liver with some fatha beans and a nice Chianti.

I did like the protection the RT offers, and the comfy...I hated the inacessability of full fairing to do any minor TB syncs ect...say a small stone gets into the throttle cable at the pulley...an impossible quick fix unless you do a tear down for a minor minor minor issue...how silly is that surrounded by cannibals at twilight with a gale approaching. travel should be pack light and live light...leave as many problems alone as possible.

"a man is rich in proportion to the things he can afford to leave alone"

here's the skid plate I just made up for the Bonneville that allows for all the up side of a Bonneville over the Scrambler.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...kidplate01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...kidplate04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...kidplate05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...filterskid.jpg

I wanted to post here...because here is where apparently the hard core mc people lurk, and where my ideas belong.

and lastly, when you're far from the factory, wouldn't it make sense parts-wise to have a more popular model? I heard somewhere 3 out of 4 new Triumph sales are Bonnevilles. I've loved the Tiger from afar since '94 or so...even took a test ride...absolutely loved it...but it too is too sophisticated for repairs in the mud...which according to Hoyle is what's out there.

give me the simple, the fixable, the lightweight, and the workable...I'm not out to impress anymore...I just want to make it there and back safe and sound...with whatever is in my control.

when these tires wear, this will get some better dirt-ish tires.

my point is, if you're looking at a Scrambler, look again at the Bonneville.

triumph tourer
 

Hi ,thats a good post.Been thinking of a scrambler for the future ,but i see your points.What are u doing about fuel range???like to see more photos.
well done Brian B

I was working on what I thought was a fresh idea, until I saw this posted just today somewhere...very close to what I had in mind:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...anniers201.jpg

they're WWII vintage English bike pannier racks someone saw on eBay...the beauty is you can strap on an attache, suitcase, spare tire, saxophone, or any odd shaped object that wouldn't fit in a store bought case...even the voluptuous metal mules...I can picture one metal mule pannier and top box and one of these on the other side with a 5 gal gerri can strapped on...which would up the 4.38 gal stock tank range to 9+ gal. that's as good as it gets...leave the stock tank alone...carry a refill.

years ago my brother did a 13,000 mile round the US trip on a R750/6 with a windjammer, home-made metal side cases and a 1 gal metal gas can.

The T100 has to be the most versatile of the Bonnies , it has the powerful 360 degree engine and can be modified either way for mild off road or even for cafe racer style .
I was a little disapointed that the Bonnie Scrambler was not a bit more radical ,so if I was in the market for a bike of this type I would get the T100 which has an identical frame and forks to the Scrambler and modify it to suit myself , just as you are doing in fact .

But Scrambler , T100 or Standard it's nice to see some parrallel twins out there with Triumph badges on the tank !

leany-back and rack
 

more experimenting:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/modre/rack01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/modre/rack02.jpg

Brothers,

Love the way you're thinking with these Bonnie mods - in fact, I might be doing something similar myself.

Far as I can tell, there a couple of issues that need addressing with the Bonnie -

Pipes - too low for any water deeper than a puddle, but high pipes make luggage tricky. Solution? Dunno - maybe better heat-shields on high-pipes plus soft luggage?

Wheels - apparently dreadfully fragile and prone to rotting. The obvious solution is to lace on some saucy black Excel rims - 21'' would be better off-road, but would it mess with the geometry or snag on something I haven't spotted?

Springs - longer rear shocks are a no-brainer, but what about the front? Wonder if the front end of an old dirt bike could be used?

Any thoughts?

Suerte, Dan Walsh

High pipes for Bonnies
http://www.newbonneville.com/html/shark_exhaust.htm - very sexy !
Norman Hyde High-Pipe System for the New Triumph Thruxton --- Norman-megabucks-Hyde chunky but cheerful .
Or have someone like Gazelle make up a custom system .

There is no reason that you couldn't put on a dirt bike front end , I 'm going to do that to my XS650 Yamaha , I imagine it will upset the geometry a bit .
However I will try it first . The biggest problem might be the very small dirt bike brake .So lacing 21" rim to an existing hub might be the way to go .

Those Sharks are gorgeous - maybe even nicer after 17 coats of black bbq paint

And maybe a 16" front sprocket...

I did another tasty comfort modification...dropped the operator's pegs 2", the shift 3 splines, and shaved a hair off the brake pedal return spring arm so the pedal can drop another bit without conflict to match the shift level.

VERY positive result is the old knees are in love again with the reduced angle ...so nice in fact the forward pegs were a luxury rather than absolute relief position yesterday after a 5 hour trial run...the increased distance between seat and pegs gives it much more of a vintage Brit dirt feel. In normal riding position, the feet can sit natural and tuck under the pedals. It's either closer to the old Triumph peg position. or my legs were shorter then. Before the peg drop the old legs just felt a bit wedged into a cafe position. The 2" drop is the single best modification yet IMO... I don't do 125mph curves, so I certainly don't need blood and guts peg positions they insist on marketing to Squids.

the mildly downside is in the sweepers you want to keep your feet on top of the pedals, but I have yet to scrape a peg...I did scrape a dangling boot in a parking lot much to my surprise.

I personally think this feet position thing is the deal clincher between Scrambler and Bonneville for any distance. if it's not comfort, then it becomes hell. Check out the skid plate above, and I'm thinking a couple 1-1/2" X 1/4" bars on end running back to the new lower pegs are enough protection for the low pipes even grinding over rocks if need be. The pipes would be visible for air cooling, but enclosed between the plate and the side rails, with reasonable bash potential.

I've been musing on a vintage tricycle looking solo seat to gently caress the hinder portions next. I don't need both feet flat at stops so I can raise the seat another inch or so to gain even more in the knees if need be...and I'm not sure the stock seat had my butt in mind to begin with.

Bonny
 

I have thought for a while the standard bonneville would make a ideal low tech tourer:thumbup1: It is more than capable, with a few modifications, and the right tyres. Maybe even man enough for prolonged two up touring:mchappy:
Interesting thread!

Is that THE Dan Walsh, of Bike Fame?

Trophymick

They sell them for Enfields, nice sprung seat, a little extra shock absorber, maybe it would/could fit the Triumph:thumbup1:


Trophymick

Check out Aussie Dave's neat yet wide-load home-built luggage solution for the Scrambler, plus a couple of other useful mods.

DRF's new butt jewelery - Page 14 - ADVrider
(scroll down)

Suerte, Dan

needed a bit of modifying but the most comfortable seat i've ever ridden on!

Modre - I don't understand a word of yr posts. It's not big and it's not clever to admit, but I can barely fill the petrol tank, let alone contemplate attempting modifications to my Bonnie.

Which is why it seems to be the perfect bike for me. Simple and solid, as well as bold and beautiful (and British, which is nice too.)

Great to think another Bonnie will be out on some long roads soon.

--Mike

if you're looking at a Scrambler, look again at the Bonneville.

Must say that was my conclusion too when I finally clapped eyes on the ugly Scambler - just a two-wheeled Chealsea tractor. What a lazy, missed opportunity that was.

So I am steering myself ever closer towards a new Bonnie for all the widely-agreed-on reasons: a low tech tourer with soul.

Bash plate looks neat, simple and essential but Dan, are the low pipes a problem as long as it keeps running through deep water? 4WDs manage fine with pipes at about the same, low height.

Needs alt rims as you say but I'd stick with a 19" front - better to humbly accept it's not an XT and retain the standard road manners/geometry. After all, this bloke managed alright!
http://www.mcqueenonline.com/bikerace6pic.htm
(is that a nitrous bottle behind his foot...?)

Feel the same way about raising the suspension - let the bashplate take the strain - although heavier duty all round would be a good idea. With a few functional exceptions, I plan to keep the Bonnie as it is.

Looking forward to more Bonnie Overland talk!

Chris S

Was at an enduro the other week and after the event we were messing around on part of the course and were joined by a spectator on a new Scrambler. It was actually OK on loose gravel, he came over all 'Cooler King' and was throwing it around having a fine time. Wisely he didn't tackle anything too challenging but even so it was clear that the suspension was bottoming out on anything resembling a bump. In terms of mods that would be the first place I'd look.

As Triumph make about a million different types of Bonnie it's a shame they haven't made a serious attempt at an overlander/off-roader in the spirit of the ISDT machines. A lightweight, simple, tough, well-suspended bike with lots of money-spinning after market options - call it the Trophy. Gap in the market??

There has been a Trophy ,it was the 3 or 4 cylinder tourer .
Maybe they could resurrect a BSA name ,they have already used "Rocket 3" on the mega cruiser .
Spitfire or Hornet would be good .
The world needs an offroad capable Triumph IMHO .

You are correct! I ride the 4 cylinder 1200 Trophy:scooter: They also did a 900 3 cylinder, but alas not made anymore, production of the Trophy ended in approx 2003:confused1: But as previous posters have said, I think the Bonneville has the basic ingredients for a good all round bike, maybe my next bike:thumbup1:


Trophymick

More exhaust pipes for Bonnies ;
--- ZARD ---

Update:

I made a couple killer modifications.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/soloseat.jpg

I like the WWll era pannier racks...with or without cases...highly functional.

after the forward pegs, I decided to drop the operator's pegs 2" cause the knees suck. Dropped the shift 2 splines and shaved a tad off the return spring arm for the brake pedal to extend it's travel a couple more degrees...and did some adjustment on the linkage...What a difference...after all, comfort reigns for old gimps.

then, on advice here. I bought a Royal Enfield sprung solo seat, and raised my butt another 2 1/2"...the knee angle is absolute bliss now. Feels like a vintage Brit dirt position. I could probably put the pegs back to stock, but it's so outrageously nice, I don't believe I will...and the extra seat springs shine over railroad tracks and potholes. major major major improvements.

then picked up a National Cycle deflector screen which is small enough so it doesn't feel burdensome in the wind, and puts a nice sweet spot at the face. Makes the prescription glasses work now where before I had to squint a bit in the wind or wear aviation shades.

I'm now working on the world's most comfy passenger seat...a small tractor seat with backrest also on springs for ms. modre...and/or a top case when she's not involved...hovering over my shoulder...asking pesky questions...where I was and who I was talking to...and what's that blonde hair doing in the seat springs...

the more I play with this new Bonneville, the more I'm convinced it's a viable choice...peppy, light, adaptable, and sexy.

This bike is getting downright comfortable...and very familiar feeling. The forward pegs are now just another layer of luxury.

surprisingly, the lowered pegs don't scrape...the stock position must be for 120mph sweepers, and I'm thinking I matched closer the original 60's Triumph position, tho with the seat and military style racks I think the overall impression suggests more 1940-ish than 1960-ish...which is fine by me...I'm sinking into a vintage groove.

...now if I could only find the leather flying helmet and just the right goggles...

as far as the Scrambler for adventure....naw...the Bonneville's the travel piece for all the stated reasons...Scrambler may look the part, but not functional in the real world.

Very nice looking bike Modre:thumbup1: The more I look at Bonny's, the more I want one:clap:

Trophymick

i love the look of the scrambler, and was wondering is it fuel injected ?, and does it run tubed tyres . to be honest the older i get the more i want a simpler bike that i can work on and fix myself , ie good old fashioned carbs,carbs i understand, fuel injection i dont have a clue about . i love what modre is doing with his bike, too many bikes today seem to built to discourage you from modding them to suit your own need,s . oh god i sound like an old fart ! i think i will go for a blast on my old 1989 gsxr1100k .

No and yes to both questions:thumbup1: Carbs and tubes used on the scrambler:clap:


Trophymick

100mph beach in Panama
 

Not too many Triumphs in Panama.
I stripped the bonneville to the bare minimum after finding the 16km long Playa Lajas. Perfectly flat and wide. No people, no pigs.

Bonnie Mods
 

Hi I'm new to this and at the early stages of planning a trip to north africa next year. I've recently ridden demo bikes of the Scrambler and Standard Bonnie back to back and have to say they feel like completely different bikes. The 270 crank gives a very different power delivery for the scrambler and I have to say didn't feel as smooth on a steady throttle; it also steers quicker. High pipes did feel a bit warm when stationary with feet down but not too bad, however, the silencers will seriously restrict the size of the right-hand pannier. The bike I rode had a single seat and rack fitted which on short acquaintance was very comfortable. The standard Bonnie was smooth and comfortable, although I preferred the riding position of the scrambler; the bars are slightly wider and further forward. Triumph quote a half degree reduction in rake for the forks of the Scrambler but the forks appear identical so I assume they've changed the yokes. Anyway apparently it leads to a one inch increase in ground clearance. On balance I've gone the standard Bonnie route and have found a five year old bike with only 211 miles on the clock so think myself lucky; it's the 790cc of course but I didn't notice any diffence at my sort of riding speed (not a TT wannabe:cool4: ).

As to the mods: Norman Hyde is now listing Progressive fork springs and improved Icon shocks for the Bonnie which may well sort the problem of bottoming out. Gazelle exhausts in Wales will build a bespoke exhaust to your spec so maybe a high level exhaust that's well tucked in and won't spoil carrying capacity is possible. A mate had a pipe made by them for a MuZ and it was very nice quality. Triumph list more comfortable seats in their accessories catalogue including a gel version of the standard dual seat. The single seat is available with and without the rack. I've also tried a Bonnie with a Triumph K&Q seat which was comfy but not my thing.

I've only just got this bike and want to use it a bit before I mod it too much so I don't try and fix anything that ain't broke. If I come up with anything useful I'll post it.

Regards to all

Welcome
 

Guybo,
Welcome !! :welcome:

It is good to see information about Triumphs on here and it is certainly the best place to get information about travelling in any part of the world.
Looking forward to more feedback from you as you get on with riding your Bonnie.

ps I was talking with a dealer a short time ago: he reckoned that it is the Bonnie and the 1050 engined bikes that are selling best at present. I suppose the 675 will get a boost this month with the Street Triple however - still waiting for the day when that engine goes into some form of scrambler/adventure bike (whatever the latter is - there is a thread on this right now!).

Cheers,

it would be great if you could post some higher resolution pics of your relocated pegs

I cannot really tell how you have it set up from the post posted above (maybe I just nedd new glasses)

I just got back did a 500 mile day a couple of days ago and my number one complaint is the peg position

I have sat on, but not ridden, a scrambler and the peg location looks to be about an inch down and an inch forward and it feels much more natural

you set up sounds about perfect

if you cannot post pics for some reason you could email them to me at pmlaw7@yahoo.com and I'll host them for you and post them here


thanks

I set off Scrambler-GSerising my Bonneville Black before the Scrambler came out and before I put the sidecar on. Knobblies give you everything you need. The low exhausts only give hassle when fixing punctures, there is enough pressure for crossing water so long as you don't need to stop, I've ridden through water than was lapping the oil filler hole (:nono:). The 360 engine is perfect on snow or mud, I never tested the 270.

The Scrambler to me has a few issues that make me think I made the right choice. That exhaust costs you about 10 hp and the choice of screens is limited. My 790 solo would cruise at 90 mph, the Scrambler loaner was only happy at 70. My black paint also seems more practical and you have endless choice of racks etc. I too concluded the Scramber is yet another style exercise rather than an improvement on the highly useful Bonneville Black.

For the seating position I have no issues. I am a short **** (5'7"/1.7m), but use a K&Q seat plus a Gel pad. Raising the seat is the same as lowering the pegs?

For sidecar use, I will be fitting wider bars. I guess this would be logical too for a road-scrambler based on the Black?

Call me tight, but why would I buy a "styled" Scramber when I can have 10 more horses and a lot of practical features for similar money once I've bought tyres etc?

Andy

i love my scrambler.
At first i was split between the scrambler and the bonnie black

yes, it would be easier to mount luggage with lower pipes, but now |I make myself take less gear, and it handles offroad surprising well (thought suspension doesn need more clearance, as do bonnies)

Hi All,

My first post here. I demoed a 2007 Black Bonneville, liked the motor and handling, but found it to be cramped for my 6' body, anyone else have this problem with the Bonny? Looking for a good all around and two up ride.

Have a 2006 KLR650 now, but it is not very good at 2 up.

thanks, Trac.

Touring Bonnie
 

I was in love with the Scrambler when it was released. I suspect Triumph made the Scrambler partially just to get people in the door at the dealership. It worked for me. When I got there, though, I came to my senses and got a T100. It just made more practical sense. I've since put in over 11,000 miles on the Bonnie, including several long trips, and couldn't be happier with it. It has just enough engine to pass a truck on the highway, but it's still light enough to push around in gravel at the campsite. I'm planning on adding a pannier rack and hard cases to improve the touring capabilities. So far, my only complaint has been the lack of a serious market for touring accessories.

My only complaint would be the ffuel range is a touch small - would like to be able to get 300km on a tank without worry
BUT can always carry a small fuel can

I did this:

Auxilliary fuel tank on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Company called Alifab (.co.uk), 70-quid plus a bit more for the plumbing. One 200 miles Bonneville :thumbup1:

Andy

Just ridden 3500km on my Scrambler over December along the east coast of Australia, 700km of that was two up riding.

Stock rear shocks found their limitations a few times loaded two up, but thats too be expected really
No complaints, i had teh bike fitted witha new set of Micehllin Anakees, highly reccommended, great on tar seal and gravel/dirt roads.

Used a set of Andy Strapz throw over panniers - these are expensive intially, but still look brand new, no dust insids them, no problem with heat on teh bags from the scrambler pipes either. I've mucked around with cheaper products that have looked a lot worse in only 500km's of riding.

The bike handles much better with the tank bag on aswell, to be expected really
Only other thing i would do is a 19 tooth front sprocket for highway work, and some ikon rear shocks eventually (but not critical)

OH, and be prepared to talk to people at every petrol station, because they like seeing your bike out there working - and GS blokes look embarrassed when you pass them

The GS blokes have a lot to worry about, the mortgage they took out to buy it, the back strain if they ever have to pick it up, the shame of not having a Touratech hard thing on every external part, worries about drive shaft failures. You really shouldn't add to their problems by passing them and it probably invalidates BMW's Warrenty if they show any sort of embarrasment (They all do that Sir). :nono:

How many old guys claimed to own a bike like that in 1957 ? How far into the outback does the Greater Spotted Bike Anorak (identified by a call that goes "they fitted a '73 chain guard on a '66 bike") live? :rofl:

Trip sounds great. Got any pictures?

Andy

Scrambler & Sidecar
 

Hi, for any Triumph fans out there we are Andy & Maya and are travelling with an 2006 scrambler. Started in Oct last year and am now in Mexico, we have a website at Adventure Sidecar - Home

Glad the trip's going OK.

Andy

That's a really nice outfit you have there:thumbup1: Never been keen on them, but I'd consider one like yours:mchappy: Hope things are going well for the pair of you, enjoy:clap:



Trophymick

Scrambler Outfit
 

Hi Andy and Mike,
thanks for your good wishs. The Bonneville is running well and the fuel comsumption has rissen to 9 miles per liter since entering Mexico giving us a range of over 300 miles ( this is good for a heavely loaded outfit ) Fuel is around 50 pence per liter here.
ride safe Andy & Maya

I've just read your blog, it sounds like you're having a great time, and I'm not one bit jealous!:thumbup1: If you can stop having fun for a few minutes, and write some more, that would be appreciated :thumbup1: :rofl:

Safe journey


Trophymick

Scrambler Outfit
 

Hi Mick
Most info is on the website/blog if you would like specific info i,ll do what i can. Maya is the one with the typeing skills and normaly takes care of blogs and such like, but as i say any tech stuff that you need to know ask away.
take care Andy & Maya

Sorry Andy, i haven1t posted for ages - i'll get som ephotos when i can
currently in Hungary, sadly without my triumph

A warning for all new triumph owners: i had a front puncture teh other day from rust in teh rim tearing te tube. The bike is only just over 10,000km young - i do live in Sydney and ride all weathers, but not right on the beach, so a little disappointed
Have to scrape and paint the rims when i get back

Bonneville
 

My 06 T100 has done several two-up runs from UK, up to now. Le Mans as a shakedown, then Nice, Santander and soon off to Lagos on the Algarve. I now have a Hyde floating disc up front [due to the original one warping], Givi 660 screen [triumph touring screen had tremendous windshear], scott oiler, crampbuster, clock, heated bars, 45 litre box [with extra pillion handles on the side], oxford throw overs and best of all, a thunderbird seat. The seat is a straight swap and solves all the Bonny plank problems. First chain adjustment was at 10K miles and chain life is over 20K, 45 mpg, cruise at 60 mph, fill up at 120 miles, run two tankfulls a day when easy touring. The only oddity is she does 125 miles before reserve and takes a 12 litre fill, when unladen. When laden she runs 100 miles before reserve and takes a 10 litre fill. I drained the tank dry and measured 16 litres capacity, then rode with a spirit level blu-tacked to the tank just to be sure the CG was central, so now just live with it. Very, very big grin stuff. And I had a Transalp before and an R100T before that. I won't be changing bikes again. Mike

I posted on this thread over a year ago I think, and just thought I'd update it.If anyone has any doubts about Bonnies as touring bikes, they only need to have a look at my website.I rode my 2007 Bonny, albeit modified from the UK to Malaysia overland last year, and on Monday will start a tour of Australia.The bike performed faultessly, and the only problems I had were of my ownm making as a result of overloading the bike.Going through Thailand I was fully loaded with my girlfriend on the back and I estimated the total weight all up must have been pushing 500kg.The wheels are only rated for 280kgs so it was no suprise I broke some spokes on the rear wheel.I bought the bike from Norman Hyde and had loads of his GT upgrades on it, including the Givi screen ( great) ,AP racing front brake ( great ), 25 litre tank ( great, although one of the Triumph badges fell off in India, but if you ever see Indian roads you'll realise why), Ikon rear shocks which gave up the ghost in Thailand, louder pipes ( great), steering damper ( great) and King/Queen ( brilliant).They are awesome bikes and it was great being on something different from the usual BMWs and Suzuki DR 650s.

Scrambler Outfit
 

Totally agree Andy. Our Triumph has taken us across North America,Central America, we are now in Humaita Brasil and will be doing the offroad section of the Trans Amazonas starting tomorrow. The bike has been briliant and i will post a report of problems so far in the next month or so. Andy and Maya:thumbup1:

Glad you're all still moving and enjoying it. Makes me jealous as heck of course, but look on the brightside, only 14 weeks at work 'til the winter rallies start!

Andy

Nice to hear from you guys, just to cheer you up it's a glorious day in Dumfries and Galloway today. :Beach: I'll check your blog out later. :thumbup1:



Trophymick

Sorry to intrude, but just read Ted Simon's adventure - his road trip on a 1973 T100 .......

Triumphs are so cool... heres my recently finished TR6R in a T120 frame... with mild/mock off road intentions :thumbup1:


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...a/IMGP1819.jpg


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...a/IMGP1824.jpg


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...a/IMGP1823.jpg



Nowhere to fit the panniers though :oops2:

Scrambler Outfit
 

Well here it is, Scrambler performance so far>
20k miles all up wieght about 600kg opps!
fuel consumption between 8km and 14km per litre depending on altitude and speed.

breakdowns 0
puntures 0
broken rear spokes 10, disc side triumph hub
broken front spokes 10, cagiva elfant front wheel
broken sidecar spokes 2

Comsumables

five rear tyres, varias types sizes depending on what we could find. Best was a 140 80 17 Pirelli scorpion mt 90 that did 5000miles
One front Avon SM 400 19,19000miles
One sidecar tyre

One drive chain
Two gearbox spockets

Brake pads 2xrear 1xfront 1xsidecar

Annoying!!

Valve cover now leaking, i can fix this no problem.
Both exhaust brackets fractured and had to be rewelded, on the Transamazonica.

Bear in mind the Scrambler has done only 20k miles but it is working real hard with all that wieght, several thousand miles off road and high altitude to very hot jungle tracks.
Having done similar trips with my R100GS we are having more fun on the Triumph and am delighted so far.
Am now in Paraguay heading south and looking forward to the rest of our trip. Andy and Maya :thumbup1: Adventure Sidecar - Home

Nice one, glad you are still having fun :thumbup1:

I'm guessing tyre wise it's easier to take what you can get, but if you end up with a choice I don't think you'll do much better than a Heidenau K60. I've 4000 miles on my M&S rear and there is at least as much again left. The starting tread is about 15mm, so even once squared off it's got plenty to go at.

Keep going and enjoy it.

Andy

Scrambler Outfit
 

Taking a ship back from Argentina to UK tomorrow, will be on around 50 thousand kilometers when we arrive home. No mechanical issues with the bonnie not even a valve adjustment.
Andy and Maya Adventure Sidecar - Home

Great news.

I made it the elefant but am now playing hunt the electrrical gremlin (or will be when I get rid of this cold). It's looking like the starter motor :(

Andy

A short report on the Elefant:

https://sites.google.com/site/threew...e-elefant-2010

Plus, if you follow the link at the bottom the answers about that electrical stuff.

Andy

Modre the bash plate is OK, but if you are serious about using it for off-road those exposed nuts are just aking to be ripped away. I would try to counter sink those fixings,
regards Mike T. :eek3:

I used to have 2 bonnies a T120 & a 140
mthe 140 I had dustall pipes & gas flowed heads went like sh*t of a shovel loved her till some toe stole them both
btw had conical air filters on the carbs as well