I also hang on to some outdated hardware and software, I am running Windows XP as a virtual machine on my Mac just so I can still access Garmin Mapsource and Adobe Pagemaker and I keep a Dell 17-in laptop in case of need.

But I do understand that at sometime I am going to have to let go.

I've never thought that buying end-of-life hardware just because it's dirt cheap is worthwhile in the long term, especially the way prices come down year after year.

It sounds terrible that Mark can't run Mac OSX 12.1 (Sierra) which was released only five years ago in September 2016, but in fact OSX 12.1 is backwards compatible with systems as far back as 2007. Apple stopped making the Powerbook back in 2006, so Mark's machine is now at least 15 years old.

Time to let go, donate it to a museum somewhere? :innocent:

Can't help with Chris as all we know from Chris is that his Android device is fairly new. Knowing the version number of Android might help. Upgrading to the v11 would at least take one possibility out of the equation.

Can't just sit there saying, "Sorry no time to read the links you posted." doh

Tim
The issue isn't particularly my or Mark's machines. The issue is that on no other forum/website do I see this issue. I spend a huge amount of (too much) time on the internet.

Grant may be concerned regarding the (lack of) traffic or engagement on hu/hubb. If it's because new and old users surf in and get screamed at by a security warning, they might not stick around to read this thread or the links posted.

Why should I read links that don't affect me? I'll take it on trust that HU is safe and tolerate the workaround to outwit the security warnings. It's not my website.

Just a follow up to this discussion, i sent long term member G30ff a link he may have been interested in & his reply today on FB was this.

"Weird that, I couldn't open that link with my tablet, nor would it log on to horizons unlimited website... due to "security issues"... opened straight away with my phone"

I am having no issues myself.

Mezo.

I often point people at HUBB and today got a message saying the person couldn't access the site and in response to my questions wrote back saying,

"this site is not secure, the certificate was not valid. I just checked again, and get the same error. I have a fairly new laptop about six months old, Windows 10, it does not give me much confidence that the site may be out of date, or the certificate is not valid etc, I don't get these issues on other websites."

Someone else on that thread said they had no problems, the person responded,

"I will give the site a miss, I'm not going to keep trying to access the site that says its dangerous to access. my browser is up-to-date, therefore, I think it would be better for the site owner to fix their site, rather than ask us to take risks accessing it."

I've suggested he tries on a smartphone, if he comes back I will update.

damn that's annoying! Ok, on it - again.
thanks!

I know I know...
 

it's an old Win7 PC
but I thought you might want to know that today I get this message:

thanks Toyark, not a lot can be done about it it seems. OLD stuff will have difficulties with the new security settings, variable everywhere, so sites are fine, a few are not so fine. Since the number of OLD devices using our site seems to be VERY low, and it's hard and expensive to "fix" it, I'm going to leave it.

Might the reason for not many old devices visiting HU be that that their users are scared off by your security warning and hence never arrive?

Good to know it's all down to money and ability that the situation can't be fixed. "They all do that, sir" as a certain vehicle brand salesman might say :innocent:

An aside. An hour ago I again (not as frequent as the security warnings, but still...) got these 2 messages when I tried to visit the hu homepage as well as click on the link in my email notification of a new reply to this thread. See screenshots.

Ps. Have a brand new handset (Santa visited early) Faster, more rugged, waterproof, bigger memory, much longer battery life, rather than because I cared about hubb security warnings :nono: and said security warnings have gone away :mchappy:

Pps. Also now again using a 10 year old W7 desktop PC that I had forgotten the password for, but managed to crack (aren't YouTube tech videos great!) and no security warnings there either :D

Thanks for reply Grant. Not a problem for me; I just thought you might like to know.
I guess OLD stuff just has to be retired sooner or later and I'm guessing we're next eh? !!! ;)
Merry Xmas!:)

Excellent!