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joe15176 29 Nov 2011 07:26

Nepal, China Tibet, Laos Tour ongoing ?
 
Hi,
is somebody doing the nepal-laos tour soon ? i would like to joy`n...
How much time i need in advances to get the paperwork done ?
Can anyone recommend a agencies ?
thanks a lot
cheers from dehli
Joe

bajatwin 17 Jan 2012 15:40

Hi Joe,

We would like to go from Nepal to Laos as well. Preferably in june 2012. Contacted some touroperators on behalfe of ourselves (2up) and a rtw truck, but that one has left the idea recently. So if you are seriuous we could team up may to find more people interested. Paperwork can be done in two months by the agencies.

Regards, Roemer

haggis 17 Jan 2012 16:46

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Originally Posted by bajatwin (Post 363530)
Hi Joe,

We would like to go from Nepal to Laos as well. Preferably in june 2012. Contacted some touroperators on behalfe of ourselves (2up) and a rtw truck, but that one has left the idea recently. So if you are seriuous we could team up may to find more people interested. Paperwork can be done in two months by the agencies.

Regards, Roemer

I would be keen to do this leg as well but I wont arrive in Nepal till October. Plan was to fly across to BKK instead. Would roads to Laos be passable at this time?

Cheers
Steven

Fern 17 Jan 2012 19:57

hi

If you mean the route inside China, I think the chinese guides need 2 months to organise papers.

Fern

bajatwin 18 Jan 2012 12:04

My guess is that's already pretty cold in the summer at those heights, so Oct is too late for me/us ;-) Who's in for the June-July time frame?

Revenue 19 Jan 2012 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenkirk (Post 363542)
I would be keen to do this leg as well but I wont arrive in Nepal till October. Plan was to fly across to BKK instead. Would roads to Laos be passable at this time?

Cheers
Steven

Yes Steven the roads will be dry then the rain has been ending the last week in Sept for the last 4 years for some strange reason, the trouble with the majority of Laos roads are a dirty clay and stick to everything, but a few days of sun then like concrete.

Revenue 19 Jan 2012 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fern (Post 363566)
hi

If you mean the route inside China, I think the chinese guides need 2 months to organise papers.

Fern

Hi fern
For the normal route, they can do the paperwork in 2 months but if you are travelling Via the 219 Tibet the Guide has asked for min 3 months because of the extra paper work involved.

Eric

Revenue 19 Jan 2012 02:53

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Originally Posted by bajatwin (Post 363631)
My guess is that's already pretty cold in the summer at those heights, so Oct is too late for me/us ;-) Who's in for the June-July time frame?

Think you will find that is the wet season, this is why we planned September and into Laos the end of the wet season i hope!

Eric:clap:

bajatwin 25 Jan 2012 16:23

Anyone else?
 
Is anyone else interested in this itinerary?

We have received some quotes from different agencies, didn't bargain just yet. First there needs to be an interest from fellow travellers (maybe you?). More people and vehicles means a better price for all of us.

From Nepal road G318 will take you to Lhasa (Tibet) - on to Shangri-La, down to Laos. Pretty amazing but only feasable if you have too much cash or when you team up with others. The highest mountain passage will be 4329m so not so difficult for those who have conquered the Kardung-La (North-India) already...

haggis 25 Jan 2012 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajatwin (Post 364540)
Is anyone else interested in this itinerary?

We have received some quotes from different agencies, didn't bargain just yet. First there needs to be an interest from fellow travellers (maybe you?). More people and vehicles means a better price for all of us.

From Nepal road G318 will take you to Lhasa (Tibet) - on to Shangri-La, down to Laos. Pretty amazing but only feasable if you have too much cash or when you team up with others. The highest mountain passage will be 4329m so not so difficult for those who have conquered the Kardung-La (North-India) already...

Yes but depends on dates and cost. I would prefer to avoid flying Katmandu to BKK so Im considering any alternative.

Cheers
Steven

bajatwin 29 Jan 2012 10:01

We'd prefer the all road to SEA as well, rather than flying or shipping. I can send you some of the quotes I received, if you want. What is your pref. timing?

Buellgirl 8 Feb 2012 07:28

I have a friend looking for travellers to share guide costs through Tibet and heading down to Laos, April/May, 2012....check out my thread. Sounds like it may be too soon for some of you though.

Dellwynne

bajatwin 8 Feb 2012 08:37

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Originally Posted by Buellgirl (Post 366467)
I have a friend looking for travellers to share guide costs through Tibet and heading down to Laos, April/May, 2012....check out my thread. Sounds like it may be too soon for some of you though.

Dellwynne

We are not on our way yet, still waiting for visas. I did an inquiry at some tour agents, one showed us an image of a bike of someone who'd already enlisted more or less and wanted to team up with people for this Tibet to Laos tour. Does he travel on a BMW 1200 GS by any chance?

Buellgirl 8 Feb 2012 08:46

Yes he does..that will be him I would imagine.

bajatwin 8 Feb 2012 12:53

Than he might be interested in switching agencies. Navo Tours will be doing a Tibet to Laos tour as of June 4. We have not decided to go for it just yet but although being late for him, the advantage is that a 4x4 will be in that group as well (meaning less expensive per head). If he wants to send me a PM, be my guest.

Buellgirl 9 Feb 2012 05:58

Thanks for that, I'm not sure whether he would be able to switch agencies, will talk to him about it when he skypes. Also as you say, dates may be too late for him, but going through singly is cost prohibitive so he may have to consider it.

Thanks again - will pass on your message

Cheer
Dellwynne

LandyAndBike 15 Feb 2012 23:05

Prices
 
Hi, I'm looking to do similar and was wondering if you could post some examples of prices you've been quoted.

Thanks

bajatwin 16 Feb 2012 10:00

Tibet to Laos Tour information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LandyAndBike (Post 367561)
Hi, I'm looking to do similar and was wondering if you could post some examples of prices you've been quoted.

Thanks

It's depended on nr of days / and if the national guide can get a lift in a customer's vehicle, nr of people / vehicles in the group, etc..
I still want to do the tour this summer myself so I don't want to state any competitive price information of any of these agencies. I will try to send you a PM.

LandyAndBike 16 Feb 2012 22:37

Bajatwin

Thanks for your PM, provides a bit more to think about!

LandyAndBike 16 Feb 2012 22:46

Actually another instant thought is that it may be worth keeping an extra seat in vehicle for the guide. Prevents them having to provide own vehicle etc.

bajatwin 19 Feb 2012 11:35

True. This is why some agencies help riders to get in a group with at least one 4wd.
We are thinking of going in July instead of June now. It will give more time to experience the countries in between.

Does anybody have experience with this tour (including Everest Base Camp up-and-down) in this limited time? We heard it's a pretty steep planning to get from Kathmandu to Laso in 18 days...

AssOfSteel 22 Feb 2012 19:33

Hi,

I'm currently in India travelling 2up on an R1200GSA and am looking to transit from China to Laos.

Bajatwin - I've seen the other thread where you mention the June 4th tour with Navo. I've been in contact with Navo and 2 Lithuanians in a 4x4 are confirmed for this tour. Their tour is 18 days and it is possible for others to join. I've seen the itinerary and most days cover about 200-300km.
I believe they have room in their vehicle for a guide so a separate vehicle will not be required. We have done a bit of research and a ball park figure for a separate guide vehicle comes in at around 3000GBP.

We are considering the June 4th tour however April/May would suit us better. A 4x4 in the group (with spare seat for guide) would hugely reduce the cost so want to put the word out for anyone interested in an April/May tour - Nepal to Laos.

Cheers

Buellgirl 22 Feb 2012 23:35

Tibet travel
 
Ass of Steel, my partner is looking for people to travel at that time, check out my other thread for details, the time frame may suit you better.

Cheers
PM me if you need contact details etc

bajatwin 25 Feb 2012 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by LandyAndBike (Post 367702)
Bajatwin

Thanks for your PM, provides a bit more to think about!

For Tibet to Laos -we are now thinking of July 2nd. There appears to be one 4wd listed on that 20 day tour now.

We just heard we've been granted the Iran visa (took 6 weeks though), only the Pakistan one to go.

Buellgirl 25 Feb 2012 10:31

April May for Tibet
 
Rob has met a couple 2up on a BMW who might be keen for Tibet in April May.....they were heading for Burma as they thought you could enter via road...so have had a change of plans...Rob will be heading to India this coming week from Turkey.

Franki 4 Mar 2012 14:59

For you guys who wanted to enter Tibet this year, I heard the area is closed to all foreigner till early summer. Make sure you can enter before you make detail plan.

Buellgirl 4 Mar 2012 17:15

That's interesting since agents are still confirming tours through for May and June..Our lot are heading through from May 28th..if anyone is keen to join.

bigdamo 5 Mar 2012 08:15

I'll second what Franki said.Things look pretty tense at the moment.Can't see it getting any better.

PaulD 6 Mar 2012 10:07

Tibet
 
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We are in Nepal (Jomson) 2up on an Enfield, & have been told Tibet will be closed until at least mid April but most likely be mid May.

Jastrap 7 Mar 2012 15:58

Hi Guys,

I plan to enter Nepal from India arround 5th of October and than would be very interested in joining a gruop on a tour via Tibet to Laos. I will be travelling with a friend - two bikes.

Is that date convienient to any of you ?

Regards,

bigdamo 8 Mar 2012 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulD (Post 370185)
We are in Nepal (Jomson) 2up on an Enfield, & have been told Tibet will be closed until at least mid April but most likely be mid May.

I'll take a bet it won't open up at all this coming summer.

Uselessbaba 10 Mar 2012 13:00

I'm a bit late picking up on this thread, but can somebody explain to me how you intend to enter Tibet/China with foreign vehicles ? I looked at trying to enter China from Pak and was told you cannot bring a foreign bike into China ( you cannot get a Carnet de passage for China), nor can a foreigner ride/drive in China unless they have a valid Chinese driving license ( only available to residents). Curious as to how you intend to overcome these ' minor' problems ???

Buellgirl 25 Mar 2012 18:35

Tibet, June 5th
 
HI all, still looking for others to join Rob plus two others heading in on the above date. He had a large group organised but they have pushed the date out to July. ...alternatively is there any other group heading in around this date that he could join. Time is ticking on.

Cheers
:scooter:

pecha72 25 Mar 2012 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uselessbaba (Post 370682)
you cannot bring a foreign bike into China ( you cannot get a Carnet de passage for China), nor can a foreigner ride/drive in China unless they have a valid Chinese driving license ( only available to residents).

No carnet required for China. But you need a Chinese travel agent to arrange everything for you. A guide will meet you up at the border and travel with you in China. And you will pay big time for all this; possibly a little less, if you´re part of a group, but still not cheap. There´s like a hundred threads about it here these days.


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