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mattcbf600 9 Jul 2007 08:19

aprilia etv 100 caponord... yes?
 
Beautiful bike, saw one last week at our Wednesday night meet at Borough Market.... absolutely stunning, and very comfy.

I found my feet planted firmly on the floor, the balance was nice, it's got a 25 litre tank and everything else you could possibly need... everything on the www seems to be positive... solid lump, and reliable running...

What does everyone think? I'm seriously considering this as an option....

m

indu 9 Jul 2007 22:32

Never mind what others might think about it. If it makes your heart beat a little harder & faster, it's the bike for you. Go for it! It's Italian, but good Italian. I went for a Guzzi Quota myself after messing around with BMWs, Hondas, Triumphs etc. Never looked back - even if the Quota is somewhat of an oddball. Great bike to tinker with though. A pal of mine has the Caponord. That engine is a gem! Never misses a beat and is a strong runner.

mollydog 9 Jul 2007 23:42

2002 Capo Nord
 
One minor weakness did arise with the bikes

Walkabout 9 Jul 2007 23:45

Matt,
Indu makes a good point - judging the bike by its looks & from the heart - for some facts there are other threads about the Capo, such as:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...caponord-10799

I took a test ride on one a few years back and it was certainly a good ride; comfortable and well able to keep up with other Aprilias and Guzzis that were out on the same test run. I talked with a bunch of Aprilia sales guys who had taken the same bike around a track and they reckoned that it has good lean angles and showed the way to a few sports bikes (Even if this does not interest you as such, it does tend to confirm that the engine is "poky").

Dave

AndyT 10 Jul 2007 04:08

There were 2 CapoNords in Ushuaia last Christmas,if that tells you anything. Both ridden from the states if I remember correctly.

mattcbf600 10 Jul 2007 08:05

Thank you
 
Hey guys these are fantastic responses - thank you very much :-) Guess I just need to go give one a proper test ride now! Morocco and back?

m

Walkabout 10 Jul 2007 15:11

That would be an excellent deal, if you can get an Aprilia dealer to lend it to you for that trip; mine Capo ride was only about a 1/2 hour in the company of Aprilia sports bikes and Guzzi's - around back roads and accompanied so the bikes did not go missing!! :nono:

Dave

mattcbf600 12 Jul 2007 11:43

Well - now here's the thing... it's being discontinued... just been onto the dealers now - no one has any in, and only a specialist adventure dealer in Croydon can get one but it's one of the last...

Only black left all the red are gone.

Should get a good deal though!

Caminando 12 Jul 2007 15:01

I'm sure I've seen this tasty bike for sale new in MCN for eyewateringly good prices.

PSwhats that guy doing in the photo?

mollydog 12 Jul 2007 17:10

Pissing of course!
 
I always get accused of that....! :Beach:

Boxer 15 Jul 2007 20:33

I suggest you look around the forums for spares availability information. A friend of mine has waited weeks for a replacement ECU. for a Caponard. (It is a lovely bike, with a good spec and price, I must agree.) Aprilia seem to be getting a bad press on spares, but I don't know how justified that is. I think it's worth asking around.

mattcbf600 15 Jul 2007 22:07

I wouldn't be surprised actually - it's been hard enough to find a dealer with a bike still in the UK - states seem to be pretty well stocked though.

m

mollydog 16 Jul 2007 06:42

Quality? Reliability? Ease of Maintenance?

Panda 21 Jul 2007 00:03

I might get grief for this but I started looking at these pages because I am looking into buying an XT660R for a big trip, because I'm worried about the spares back up for my 2006 Aprilia Pegaso (same engine as the XT), should I venture too far away.

My Peg has been great, I think it's a far better bike than the Yam. I'm worried about their spares back up though, even though nothing has gonce wrong in 9000 miles. It's the most reliable bike I've owned in 25 years of riding Jap bikes!

Aprilia build great bikes in every way, but the spares back up is awful.

I can say that confidentally as a parts manager in a franchised dealer...

Panda 21 Jul 2007 00:15

Oh yeah, PS theres meant to be a 2008 Capo at the next Milan show....

mollydog 21 Jul 2007 02:25

...as you know cause you're in the biz...right? :D

Walkabout 21 Jul 2007 09:39

Pegaso engine
 
[quote=Panda;144299]I might get grief for this but I started looking at these pages because I am looking into buying an XT660R for a big trip, because I'm worried about the spares back up for my 2006 Aprilia Pegaso (same engine as the XT), should I venture too far away.

[quote]

Hi Panda,
Is there, or was there, a Pegaso with the same Rotax engine as the BMW GS650?

ps Welcome to this forum BTW!!!

Panda 27 Jul 2007 18:03

Quote:


Hi Panda,
Is there, or was there, a Pegaso with the same Rotax engine as the BMW GS650?

ps Welcome to this forum BTW!!!
As far as I know the Rotax 652cc engines that Pegaso's used up until the 2005 "Strada" model are the same as the F650 motors - Aprilia used to ( I think they still do) build F650's for BMW too.

Walkabout 27 Jul 2007 18:23

[quote=Panda;144299]my 2006 Aprilia Pegaso (same engine as the XT),

[quote]

I thought the Pegaso has always used the Rotax, so when did they switch to a Yam engine?

Cheers,

mollydog 27 Jul 2007 18:51

As far as the future of the Pegaso goes....haven't heard anything at all.

indu 28 Jul 2007 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 145144)
Aprilia have never made the Pegaso motor. Always made by Rotax.

I believe the latest Pegaso has the Yamaha 660 unit, built by the Italian company Minarelli.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 145144)
Rotax has made ALL the motors for Aprilia, including CapoNord, Futura et al,

Not quite. The SVX 450/550 engines (aka 45.2-engine) are entirely made by Aprilia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 145144)
Then....in around 2000 (??) BMW took over the whole project from Aprilia/Rotax.

Yes, the 2000 FI model F650GS was the first made entirely by BMW in Berlin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 145144)
Besides the Shiver, they have several all new models coming....all unproven.

Well, new things tend to be unproven until proved - but then they're not new anymore, right? ;-)

mollydog 28 Jul 2007 04:07

justSadly, only racers here are buying them.

I have high hopes for Aprilia.

Walkabout 28 Jul 2007 08:28

It's my impression, no more than that - no hard facts that I know, that there are more Aprilia dealers here in the UK; this will improve the backup for spares etc if there is a wider distribution of dealers.

BTW, the 650GS has the Rotax engine still so far as I know - their modification is to use their own twin spark head which was developed by their car racing engineers (according to the sales staff).

I spoke with a Triumph dealership about "Adv" bikes about 4 weeks ago and the dealer owner reckons that there is no interest in producing such a bike - they are very happy with the sales of their street bikes and the next triple is just that; the 675 naked version of the Daytona, named the "street triple" in the UK.
I'd love to see Adv 675 though!!

Anyway, we are a bit off your thread Matt, apologies.

mattcbf600 28 Jul 2007 16:48

No please carry on! The more I know the better - I've not had a call back from the dealer yet so I'm beginning to think I may have missed the boat and that they've all gone... I'll give them a ring tomorrow and see what's going on.

m

Walkabout 28 Jul 2007 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattcbf600 (Post 145219)
No please carry on! The more I know the better - I've not had a call back from the dealer yet so I'm beginning to think I may have missed the boat and that they've all gone... I'll give them a ring tomorrow and see what's going on.

m


Matt,
You are very kind!
Because you are still interested in this particular model, it might be worth getting hold of Aprilia UK (which is somewhere in southern Scotland from memory - perhaps Ayrshire) to find out which dealers have the Capo in stock. Maybe there is a demo bike or two around at this time of year.
It should show up on a search of the net.

A short story:
Aprilia UK used to "sponsor" a test ride on various tracks around Europe, including here in Britain a few years ago (which is how I got to ride a few different models) - they scrapped the UK version when just about every brand new bike was "thrown down the track" by a bunch of numpties; there was a lot of expensive damage to 20 brand new A Milles! :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:

mattcbf600 28 Jul 2007 18:48

lol! Trust us silly brits :-)

I'll give them a bell on Monday and see what they say - thanks for the advice guys!

mollydog 28 Jul 2007 19:30

And have you heard about Triumph's 2000cc parallel twin?

Walkabout 28 Jul 2007 21:23

Dealers and rumours
 
Mollydog,

To remain off the Aprilia topic a tad more, it is true in the sense that is what the (single) dealer was saying about 4 weeks ago; I agree that they are often not in the loop and I can understand why the manufs would not want the rumour mill stoked up by such dealers.

This particular dealer is an IOM sidecar racer, so he may not be very interested in the "adventure" market anyway, but if it sells bikes...........


UK rumours often start in the MCN (and they are very often accurate in their content, for various reasons):-

MCN MotorCycleNews home - the biggest motorcycling community in the UK
if anyone on the other side of the Pond, or anywhere else for that matter, is interested.

At least BMW declared a few years ago that for the foreseeable future they will produce 2 new bikes per year - Triumph are more coy on such announcements, probably for good reason because they have been known to cancel projects very late in the development stages.

Won't be long anyway before the annual show programme starts when we all get to see what is definitely (unless it is badged Gilera or .....) coming to the market in 08!

Panda 31 Jul 2007 00:16

Just to clarify a few points mentioned above;

The current Pegaso range use the same Minarelli engine as the current XT660's and the Derbi Mulhacen, as well as a Yamaha quad (Raptor I think).
The 990 engines, as well as the Shiver and Mana engines are made by Rotax to Aprilia's design. The only Piaggio engines used are in scooters. I'm not sure about the SXV's though. Next yeat the 1000cc V twins are to become 1200's and there's a new Capo due.

There are still a handful of new Caponords in dealers.

The importer mentioned in Scotland no longer deals with Aprilia (they're in Dunragit near Stranraer), they now bring in Sym scooters. Aprilia UK are in the process of moving from Manchester to the Piaggio HQ somewhere off the M25.

mollydog 31 Jul 2007 03:14

Rotax is making the Shiver and Mano engines? Really?

Panda 14 Aug 2007 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 145489)
Rotax is making the Shiver and Mano engines? Really? That's news to me. I could have sworn Aprilia had taken those in house.....but really it makes more sense that they have Rotax do it. Any links to verify this?

I'd also heard the SVX's were made in house....but they really LOOK like something Rotax had done.

So which is it? Our local mags here in the US are saying Rotax are OUT at
Aprilia.

The big news here ATM is the 1000cc Aprilia (made in house?) V-4 motor. This motor will power their world superbike as well as a streetbike version sport bike and who knows what else.

Reports claim it's all in house made at Aprilia and spy pic is from the Noale design center.

Sorry, brain fade...Aprilia are now building the motors for the latest bikes right enough! There's a new engineer who's responsible for the 450/550's apparently.

mollydog 14 Aug 2007 17:57

All most guys want is a Pussy magnet. :rofl:


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