Bought a WK400 Trail
 

Just bought a brand new WK400 Trail a couple of weeks ago after downsizing from a KTM990 Adventure R, and got to say so far so good. This year I travelled through thirty countries and covered about 15k miles on the KTM and while there is no doubting it's a fantastic bike, once the going gets tough you become aware of every kilogram, especially picking it out the mud!!

So far already been out on a couple of local tracks that would make me sweat on the KTM and the WK just breezed through even on the standard, more road orientated Kenda tyres.

I think this has the potential for a great Overlander but time will tell how reliable it is and how good the components are.

Just this weekend took my daughter on a local camping trip and it performed well. I have only covered about three hundred miles so far but the more I ride it the more it is growing on me :thumbup1:

Here are a few pics;

Looks great that bike!

Where is it made? What are the specifications?

Great looking bike :thumbup1:

Please stay in touch about how you get on with it, I love the spec but also worry about what it will be like in three years time.

Ride it like you stole it! :mchappy:

Andy

Many years ago one of the brain dead low lifes my brother used to (vaguely) know got done for nicking a bike (an RD250 Yamaha smoker) when, after hot wiring it, he carefully warmed it up outside the owners house before slowly riding off. He was a big bloke so the owner wouldn't tackle him directly but called the cops and they arrived at the end of the road in time to meet him leaving.

Sadly (for the IQ of the bloke involved) a true story.

WK400 Info
 

Here is a link to the specs THE NEW TRAIL 400 - 400cc TRIALS BIKE FROM WK

It's made in China by a company called Shineray. This bike is sold in various countries and re-badged accordingly (search: Mash Adventure, Kougar 400R, Sineray X5)

WK400 Review
 

For anyone out there looking for more info on one of these bikes here is the link to a great review. When I did all my research before purchasing it was probably this review more than others that led me to take a punt.

WK400 ADVENTURE

Looks great for thew money and hopefully the long term reliability will be good.

Glenn G on another forum as you know Mac10biker is writing an epic trip report of his recent journey on the same type of bike.

That's a great review and its got me interested too, did you buy yours in Scotland ?

Wk400
 

Yes I bought mine from Rumblers in Kirkcaldy

Thanks, just down the road will go and have a look at them.

I read that this bike uses a variant of Honda's xr400 engine. Is this so, and could it therefore be persuaded to squeak out a bit more than the positively weedy 27hp it currently does? Frankly my TTR250 squares up well against it, having better suspension and weighing 130ish kg. It does look the part though, and you can't buy new ttrs any more:-)

WK400 Positives
 

One of the positives of this bike is it actually feels and looks like a proper adventure bike. I have an XR400 that I could compare to this the same as the TTR250 but those bikes have uncomfy seats, pretty shit all day riding ergonomics, thimble sized tanks and you have to spend money to at least get a longer fuel range.

I certainly agree that the power output is weedy, the XR absolutely blows this away on acceleration and top speed, but travelling through Georgia and Russia this year I very rarely went above 70mph, and I think the ideal travelling speed (not inc.motorways) is in the 45mph-60mph range. Now I have filled the tank a few times I am getting about 65mpg which equates to about about 250 miles or a bit more from a tank. My KTM990 was getting about 150 miles on a tank and 35mpg!!

I honestly never thought I would step back to riding such a small bike but now I have 're-programmed' my brain to the riding style (and slower speeds) I am really starting to like this bike :funmeteryes:

:mchappy:

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Nice bike and good review.
Can you confirm it has tubed tires?
All still good with the WK?
Cheers

WK400 Trail
 

Yip, all good. Now done about 700 miles since I bought it and after the initial "re-programming" from riding big bikes, it has become more and more enjoyable every time I ride it.

Checking the oil regularly and hasn't used a drop yet, and starts first time on the button every time :thumbup1:

For what I paid I really can't find any faults (yet) with this bike :scooter:

I have done a video review and will post a link once I get the chance to put it all together.

Glad to hear it still doing well. You could have made quite an astute move by buying when you did, think supply is drying up according to the post on the ABR forum, wouldn't be surprised if the price creeps up a bit in 2017.

700 miles? Just run in then... well come back with a review when the bike got 70 000 miles... ;-)

How mad am I?
 

Ok so after the usual Transalps, Vstroms, DRs and inevitable GS I found myself looking for something different and light and cheap....and, living in France (well at present) I have put a deposit down on a Mash 400R Adventure - essentially the WK400......(ex demo with 1500kms but 2017 reg)

Its due to be delivered next week...

Am I going to regret this?

Sorry for disturbing, anyone got an idea how to get/test one of those in Germany? :rolleyes2:

Updates anybody!

I can't answer you question, but if you can't find one try with the "Mash Adventure 400". It is the same bike.

(also the Shineray XY 400)

I wouldn't pay Mash prices. I know of a fair priced one

Mash - how am I doing?
 

hi - well to all those who are looking for feedback on the Mash, I have now covered 3300 kms and have a bit to report.

In the first place I should start that it has never let me down nor failed to start.

Next up I probably should advise that I purchased the bike remotely (i.e. email / internet) from a dealer in France where I was living so never got to inspect or ride it before purchase - it was a demo so had 1500kms on it when I bought it - a good sign I thought!

Before going into "comments" on the bike itself, I should say (and after living there for 4 years and global travel) that imho France is perhaps the worst place in the world to purchase anything. Customer service is non-existent at best and descends to appalling / rude etc quickly.


Right - the bike

So on delivery the dip beam didn't work - simple ground somewhere I reckon but I don't ride at night so its not actually an issue. I have rewired the bulbs so main is dip and that works grand. There is a oil seep from the cylinder / rocker head so I get a little bit hazed by oil smoke when stopping in traffic. Of most annoyance are the front forks - I had (on order) asked for the fork oil to be changed (its a usual issue) and so when I get it - not done and the front forks don't really rebound as such - a rebuild / new valves (and a seal) will be needed. Its not awful and after being done it will be really good (I hope). Finally, while I thought the front wheel needed balancing, a bike mechanic who looked at it reckoned it was actually buckled (!) I get a shake at 50-65kms but lower and higher speeds its actually fine.
What else - oh yes if you whack it off the (absent) redline on gear changes (done 2 times from 2nd - 3rd) the EMS shuts you down and you have to restart. I practiced a third time just to confirm that was what was happening - its shocking the first time but now I know I don't mind / its avoidable.

Other comments you may have read - yes the side stand is too long.

I got the engine bars and lamp guards from the WK 400 as well as an ally top box.

Previous bikes (there have been many) include Transalp, GS800, DR200, dr650, xt660 and some other things.

Impressions - well, the engine has really loosened up (a lot) and I reckon its perhaps 20% quicker now than when I got it first (and that was at 1500kms!).

I read the reviews and thought it ticked all my boxes (apart from ABS) and still like the look of it.

The funny and pleasant surprise...? It has bronze wheels !

Mash - how am I doing?
 

Thanks for posting, a really good report. I don't think I would be as chilled out as you are about leaks and lights!

I looked at MASH before buying the Enfield. The demo bike had rust showing which put me off.

Andy

Hmm - interesting as that was my alternate choice!

Funny I present as chilled about the issues - well annoyed at first but as the wheels continue to roll the confidence (and perspective) grows.

Having been let down on a number of occasions (including at the side of the road) by my F800GS I lost all faith in BMW - and vowed never to buy another!

The fuel gauge on the GS over read (said you had more than you did) - this is a known fault (and despite warranty SW upgrades remained during my time of ownership). The Mash has a fuel gauge which under reads (also a regular issue) so I intentioanally ran it to dry over the past week - up until last night after...... 349kms - I then threw the filled 5l can I had into it and rode home no issue.

So I filled up this morning - (counting the 5l it took 18.9 litres for a total (inc home to station) of 359.7kms or 53mpg...as that has purely been hacking (enthusiastically) in traffic on a fully loaded side cases on stop start 18km commute (and I have seen 59mpg without trying) its real world range is not bad at all.....

Anything fallen off the enfield yet?

A bit of a film of todays ride

Lanes, Chips and Beers by Bulletandy - Dailymotion

The Bullet has had one little "spat". It ran rough, I blink coded it, the dealer liked by video so much they changed the TPS. With hindsight and the fact it ran right with a new plug, I think the dealer over reacted, but first class service. It was never out of use.

2017 Enfield Bullet TPS failed - Video Dailymotion

It cruises at 60, turns in 85 mpg and makes me smile. Nothing has fallen off, but it is probably a matter of time :rofl:

Various ramblings here

https://sites.google.com/site/hrpvindaloomotorcycles/

Andy

First part rejected

Under £2k and tps issue:oops2:

Try

https://vimeo.com/234063812

Daily Motion having a sulk because I won't pay.

Andy

Aftersales service - perhaps not
 

Well, so my experience with the Mash 400 R has been somewhat treading the line between my optimism and the "don't ever buy Chinese".... some would definitively say I got a lemon and be smug about it too....

The reality (at least MY reality) is that my GS800 (main dealer purchased with 6k kms from new) was in many ways just as bad (?) and set against higher expectations the fall from grace much further!

With 3500kms on it now, the wee 400 is revving much easier and a whole lot quicker - which given that it could probably do with a valve n spark check suggests (at least to me) that the oil is probably well in need of changing...

So I have it booked in for the forks and the engine head leak to be done - as this is mostly labour (and I am have no faith in Sima / Mash as importers) I am leaving it with my trusted local mechanic.....

A pic with all boxes on...

Back in business
 

Well, after a brief spell away (riding the CRF250 in Vietnam actually!) I am back in Dublin and my Mash is fettled and fine. I have some info on the items which were "wrong" with the bike...

So the oil leak seemed to be a combination of misaligned / undertightened breather pipe and my generous filling sloppiness with the oil can in topping up. No "real" oil leak found and after several days of riding (and post full engine clean) no smokiness.

On disassembly however a leak in the fuel tank sender was found (and with the replacement sender (20$) fitted and adjusted as per another websites recommendations for the WK400 sender) may be more accurate now also.

The non operation of the dip beam was a detached wire in a multi block connector - under the tank. Resolved easily, I took the opportunity to upgrade to the newer switch gear (mind you I now beep instead of cancel indicators all the time).

The wheel was straightened - mind you the feedback I received wasn't great - said the join was approximate and the job done was the best possible - it seems a lot better to ride mind.

Fork seal replaced and the oil drained in both and refilled - this is a well known issue and the supplying agent said he did it - one was empty and the other filled with crud so he simply didn't do it at all. Fork operation now is smooth (better than CRF250 imho).

what else? With a valve adjustment the pick up is noticeably stronger - regularly overpowering the rear tyre in lower gears in the wet - Kenda is not as good as the equivalent Dunlop...

I applied some stickers and the extra lamps so the bike is finally close to how I wanted it to look (a bit OTT for most I guess.....)

Finally - am I happy? Yes even with the above I think I have a nice bike at a decent price - something that (unlike the GS is not on every street corner and traffic lights) even if the exhaust is a tad noisy!

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that's a usual benchmark funnily enough - and still nearly twice the price new....(!)

stickered...
 

the one...
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side stand is too long - then again the optional centre stand is 60euro - should I just get that?

Have a WK400 since January, now with 6000 miles on the clock. Bike has been perfect.
Unfortunately dropped it this weekend on a forecourt and the gear lever holed the engine casing. Gutted to say the least.
Highly recommend grinding the sharp inner side of the lever and making some kind of case saver

I got some plastic metal and will try to stick some kind of protection on in advance of a trip.... thanks for the heads up. What kind of hand guards did you fit ? The standard ones are tolerable (and don't foul the screen) but don't offer much weather protection and surely cant be overly strong.....

I also wonder if there is a taller screen option - the Geon Grandtour seems (?) to have a taller one than my Mash 400R adventure...

Old thread, but any updates?