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*Touring Ted* 16 Jul 2013 13:57

I'd say his tyre pressure looks a little low.... rider maintenance error leading to a snapped shaft...... obviously ;)

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Threewheelbonnie 16 Jul 2013 17:09

"They all do that SSssssssirrrr. Might I show SSsssssssssirr the new R1250GSFARTR Extreme Adventure while SSsssssirrr has a nice free capachino? They are only £299000 with the option to extend the warranty for £600 a year SSSssssssirrr".

You've got to admire the marketing though.

Andy

backofbeyond 16 Jul 2013 17:39

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 429553)
I'd say his tyre pressure looks a little low.... rider maintenance error leading to a snapped shaft...... obviously ;)

Just how much training have they been putting you through Ted? :eek3:

Not that long ago you were always on here "sticking it to the man". I'm beginning to worry that you've now become the man. :rofl:

*Touring Ted* 16 Jul 2013 19:59

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Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 429572)
Just how much training have they been putting you through Ted? :eek3:

Not that long ago you were always on here "sticking it to the man". I'm beginning to worry that you've now become the man. :rofl:

haha

Don't worry....

I'm just working undercover..

Know thy enemy ;)

backofbeyond 17 Jul 2013 08:08

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 429583)
haha

Don't worry....

I'm just working undercover..

Know thy enemy ;)

Phew, that's a relief. I just had this vision of a weekly meeting with the "HR manager" where he sits you down in front of a giant spinning BMW badge and in a strong teutonic accent tells you to concentrate on the light, you're feeling sleepy... :eek3: :wacko:

Just remind me about the BMW warranty policy again... :rofl:

*Touring Ted* 17 Jul 2013 13:45

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Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 429621)
Phew, that's a relief. I just had this vision of a weekly meeting with the "HR manager" where he sits you down in front of a giant spinning BMW badge and in a strong teutonic accent tells you to concentrate on the light, you're feeling sleepy... :eek3: :wacko:

Just remind me about the BMW warranty policy again... :rofl:

Not quite.... Not that I remember. However, my watch did stop in my first day, I have a few missing hours in my memory and I'm sure there's something under my skin which keeps beeping:/

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chris1576 4 Feb 2014 19:35

I broke down with a faulty fuel tap next to a bmw dealer on my 1996 funduro......... zero.zero interest.
my advice...... buy a xt600, some spanners, and a manual.
KISS - you know what that means?

johnnail 10 May 2014 19:53

If BMW would make the old R100GS again, they couldn't keep them in stock

mollydog 10 May 2014 20:24

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Originally Posted by chris1576 (Post 453221)
I broke down with a faulty fuel tap next to a bmw dealer on my 1996 funduro......... zero.zero interest.
my advice...... buy a xt600, some spanners, and a manual.
KISS - you know what that means?

Most dealers would react the same. Not just BMW. A nearly 20 year old machine does not represent any profit for them. They sell NEW BIKES, that's where the money is.

Luckily, there are plenty of small, independent shops who ARE interested and would help with your old Funduro ... or old XT, XL, DR, KLR ... whatever. I love these small shops if they are honest and actually have skills and know the old bikes. (not all are are good) I agree .. and manual and spanners are essential, but help is out there if you need it! :D

*Touring Ted* 10 May 2014 20:30

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Originally Posted by johnnail (Post 465787)
If BMW would make the old R100GS again, they couldn't keep them in stock

They wouldn't be aloud to. They don't pass any laws anywhere.

Unless they sold them as show bikes etc.

They never will though. There is a reason why Ferrari don't remake their past glories. They devalue the brand.

mollydog 10 May 2014 20:48

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Originally Posted by johnnail (Post 465787)
If BMW would make the old R100GS again, they couldn't keep them in stock

In a way, BMW are going there. They're taking a cue from Harley and tapping into the sort of old school Cafe Racer Nostalgia thing. Harley re-invented itself using pure Rebel outlaw/pirate nostalgia. Unbelievable but true.

No, this new BMW is not a R100GS ... harkens back to those times.
Anyone remember the R100S? I'm speaking about the new for 2014 R Nine T BMW. (see below) Regards the GS ...
can a "re-made", modern, R80GS be far behind? It would not surprise me in the least. Bar bones, light weight full HPN Dakar version anyone?
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...aris-dakar.jpg

Check out BMW's R 9T Roadster (link below) ... and the video at the bottom of the page featuring some custom bike builders testing and commenting on the NEW R Nine T Roadster. Impressive. Once again, BMW use a million dollar movie to make their point ... and it is a point very well made IMO.

Very slick ... the Japanese could take a big lesson in this area. Their advertising truly is 20 years behind BMW.

(problem is ... many of same age old BMW faults still remain) :helpsmilie:

BMW Unveils 2014 R nineT Roadster - Motorcycle USA

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_...-studio-37.jpg

*Touring Ted* 10 May 2014 21:08

The nineT is nothing more than an old 1200 twin cam air cooled engine stuck in a simple frame with some forks off a BMW S1000R.

They are GREAT bikes but they are not a re-release of anything classic.

mollydog 10 May 2014 22:26

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 465802)
The nineT is nothing more than an old 1200 twin cam air cooled engine stuck in a simple frame with some forks off a BMW S1000R.

They are GREAT bikes but they are not a re-release of anything classic.

True, technically ... not new. But it's the power of "illusion" that is at work here. That same illusion that sold a million R1200GS's over the last decade.

Here, BMW are jumping on the Cafe Racer trend going on here and (I guess?) in UK and EU? We hear it's already successful, bringing in newer, younger riders to BMW ... which is exactly what they need. It has enough of what is perceived to be that "classic" Cafe look.
I think it was a smart model choice.

A revised, repackaged modern R80GS remake could do the same ... another illusion ... but could rekindle interest among riders who were around when the first GS's were popular ... and most likely many other riders from various demographic. Do you think it would sell? Or not?

*Touring Ted* 10 May 2014 23:27

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Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 465808)
True, technically ... not new. But it's the power of "illusion" that is at work here. That same illusion that sold a million R1200GS's over the last decade.

Here, BMW are jumping on the Cafe Racer trend going on here and (I guess?) in UK and EU? We hear it's already successful, bringing in newer, younger riders to BMW ... which is exactly what they need. It has enough of what is perceived to be that "classic" Cafe look.
I think it was a smart model choice.

A revised, repackaged modern R80GS remake could do the same ... another illusion ... but could rekindle interest among riders who were around when the first GS's were popular ... and most likely many other riders from various demographic. Do you think it would sell? Or not?

I built some of the first nineT's in Europe. I had a good play on the ones I built too. Now you can't get them until 2015.

They were fun. That engine really is nice in a light frame with good suspension. Did it blow my world. Not even close. Exciting..... Nope ! A bit different...... Yes.. Worth the price tag. hmmmm.. Not to me. You could have a much higher speced Ducati or MV Augusa for the same price or less.

In fact, I'd take two bikes for the same price as a nice T...

johnnail 11 May 2014 15:06

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 465794)
They wouldn't be aloud to. They don't pass any laws anywhere.

Unless they sold them as show bikes etc.

They never will though. There is a reason why Ferrari don't remake their past glories. They devalue the brand.

Well, OK, they could go with PLAIN EFI to get around EPA regs, but reliable and simple go together............high tech is for the race track


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