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Nice to see a new publication with Simon Pavey's son at the helm! :thumbup1: I've seen the Husky 701 in person. Would have had a sit, but too tall. With a 36" seat height, it's too tall for me. In my Enduro race days I could have handled it but now, if it were loaded up, might be a bit tough and embarrassing. The 701 Husky engine got exact same upgrades as my 2017 690 Duke got back in 2016. HP and torque figures vary slightly from publication to publication, my '17 690 duke is listed at 73 HP/ 55 ft. lbs. So, pretty close all round between Husky 701 and KTM 690 Duke. Basically, KTM did a whole new engine in '16 and that is what is in the Husky 701 with minor differences. Biggest change is balancer shaft arrangement for smoother running. My Duke is certainly better than earlier versions or my old 2001 Duke ll, but it's clearly still a THUMPER! It's got a ton of power for a single and on a twisty road can keep pace with just about any bike or rider ... even guys on 1290's. At some point ... it's all about the rider. A fast guy could really rip it up on my 690. Mine has a Nitron shock, still need to do Andreani fork kit ... forks not great in standard form. The 690 Duke also comes with the fancy TFT dash that the Husky doesn't have. ... which in bright Sun sometimes does not read well. In low light, it's amazingly BRIGHT! (too bright?) As the review in Brake mentioned, that Husky will not be great as a travel bike as delivered. They didn't go into details, but I could see making it RTW ready might get expensive. 3.4 gallon tank, not enough. I spent $150 for my IMS 5.2 gallon tank on my DR650. Range up to about 220 miles plus reserve. A minimum for a travel bike, IMHO. Other issue is rear sub frame and luggage. I'm sure the bike is an absolute DELIGHT to ride and if it could be cost effective to trick it out for travel ... then I might be on board. But for me, I'm thinking lower, lighter and CHEAPER! :smartass: But for your use around England, seems like the perfect Hooligan weapon, making punters on sports bikes look foolish in the twisty bits ... just remember to watch your (VIBEY!) mirrors as they Whistle by you at 160 mph once back on the straight roads. :angel: My Duke is a lot of fun, but I'm probably going to sell. Only had it two months! doh (yes, I am truly an idiot!) I'm just not the young aggressive rider I once was. How I made it out of that period alive, is quite a miracle ... but a story for another day. I just can't use what the 690 has anymore. I know it's there ... no way can I get there most of the time. I do love a lot of things about the bike: Handling is very good ... but forks need work. Stock seat is very good too ... OK for at least two hours before a break needed. (Corbin seat on my DR650 is good for 4 hours easily) Fuel economy is remarkably good. Seat height is VERY low at just 32.5 inches. Perfect for me. But not ideal for travel and not great fast highway cruising all day riding with a group of Hooligans on 1200cc bikes averaging 80 mph for a full tank worth of miles. bier Quote:
OK, back ON TOPIC and more about the CRF Rally! Enough of these BIG KTM's and Huskies! |
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I think you're wrong here, quite a few people took so called race bike for very long trips like you would regular travel bike succeeded with no problems. If you're not racing service interval actually can be measured in miles or kilometers and it's not that bad because they changed oil every 2000 km or 1200 miles so it's doable. You get instead very light bike to deal with on the road. I was afraid about this aspect as well until I own my ktm 500 exc which appeared to be very reliable and adventure capable machine. BTW, crf250l doesn't look good at all, looks weird at most. |
You are correct about how reliable the KTM 500EXC appears to be. But it's still early days with only a couple guys taking the 500 on RTW type rides. I'm sure more will follow ... and good luck to them.
We all travel in different ways with different priorities. But its true, traveling on a race bike will mean you can likely extend service intervals out quite a bit, as traveling is usually not hard on the machine. If the basic bike is reliable then could be done. So, instead of 500 mile interval could be pushed up to maybe 2000 miles? More? But is this ideal? :innocent: Most raced based bikes are not well set up for carrying luggage. Some don't have large fuel tanks available, unless you spend A LOT on money. Many carry Rotopax or Bladders ... I'm not a fan of either of these methods. Rear sub frames may not exist or quite weak. So not idea for panniers weighing 30 kg. or so. ... plus a top bag and other crap travelers tend to pack. Some travelers like to camp (to save money I guess?) and LOVE to pack up their bikes like the Beverly Hillbillies. Race based bikes may not be ideal for the perennial over packers so common in our world. :oops2: My worry would be if you get yourself into a location where you can't find top quality synthetic oil, as required for many high end race bikes like the KTM 500. And in addition, the rider will need the skills and tools to do the maintenance on the road. The KTM is easy ... a good thing. But some bikes are more complex to do self service ... and they are not even race based machines. (BMW GS's, Ducati Multistrada, KTM 1290) Most require dealership computers to plug in for diagnostics. I like the looks of both the CRF250L and Rally. Weird? Not at all. It's just not that different from dual sport bikes 30 years ago. doh so, both good and bad. |
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"Big tank? why? The ****ing thing gets over 70 miles per gallon ... who needs a big tank?" Hey ho...only joking bier....yeah :offtopic: I know, I don't think it matters anymore though..:funmeteryes:..do you ? |
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Everybody is on a different journey or wanting to be and we're all at different points in our lives and our journeys, we're all different heights, abilities, age's and we all have our own idea of the perfect bike..and even that will change for each of us unless we keep doing the same old thing. I used to think my R1 was perfect for me I put so much thought, reading up and test rides into which bike would be the best for me before I bought that bike, and it was awesome at the time but now I've got a BMW:rofl:. It's been almost perfect for what I've used it for too but now I'm looking at Husqvarna's because I'm thinking of changing what I do and where I do it..again. Some choose their "ride" because it's a gimmick, unusual etc. and it will sell books or whatever, I'm not really a fan of that but I can't say I blame them, there are so many at it nowadays. Generally though my thoughts are ride what you like, doesn't matter to me but don't presume I'm on the wrong bike because it doesn't fit your criteria... So if you fancy all those oil changes when you could be having a beer round the campfire feel free..I won't be jealous..I will when you hit that fire road and get to "let it loose" thoughbier |
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C'mon..just give me this one :rofl: |
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"7. The potential is there to be an incredible world travel bike. In it’s stock form it’s less than perfect for hitting the road. The wind protection is minimal, the seat can be found wanting and the 14 litre tank is, well, only 14 litres. It’s not intended to be a travel bike. It’s a dual sport but there is the foundation for something incredible. When most super keen adventure travellers list what their ideal bike would have the only things missing from the 701 are luggage space, protection and fuel range. While they may not be incredibly easy to solve, it has been done. With a little modification and some creativity the 701 Enduro has the potential to be truly outstanding." Potential to be an incredible world travel bike !! Foundation for something incredible !! Potential to be truly outstanding !!.....mmmh..sounds good :D |
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