Thanks for the reply.
The Himmie engine gets a lot of positive comments - I’m keen to try both.
I’m sure you’ll get some decent time on one soon.

Testride on the CFMoto 450MT
 

https://youtu.be/9KcgJlGOhuY

It is in Dutch with English subtitles

I had an opportunity to see firsthand the CFMoto 450MT when I brought my Xmax for it's first service.

I was impressed with the light weight of the bike and the price of USD$7,200 and comes with top box and panniers.

I do most of my long distance touring overseas on rental bikes and that's why I have a xmax 250 scooter at home now after selling the trusty Triumph Tiger 800.

:scooter:

Just saw this in the UK Bike mag (UK).
Not read it yet but the title probably says enough.

It's quite a funny article , the bike gets ridden into a wall , various ditches and dropped loads of times and still keeps going.......unlike the rider who throws the towl in .

We used to sell them before our company went belly up I'd buy one without hesitation. I'd need the hi seat mind and I'd change the front sprocket to drop the revs at cruising speed other then that there isn't much needs doing .

Sounds like a normal week of my riding :mchappy:

Nathan postman has taken both the CFMoto450 and the 450 Himalayan on a real offroad-test. And one of the bikes was much better offroad than the other according to Nathan….

https://youtu.be/tOFrBfitzRU?si=BuDpd5L7FyRpg-XK

Thanks for posting. Though I've never ridden one, for what he's riding I'd sooner be on a less bulky Him – or indeed something lighter still.
Loads better mpg than the MT too, afaik, though I'd miss the low-rpm pick up of a twin.

Just sold my 450 – went in hours. No regrets, but looking forward to trying a rental Him down in Morocco.
Read Bike mag about a TMT Moroccan trip I did with Desert X Rally and 1250GS.
https://www.bikemagazine.co.uk/magaz...oroccan-trail/

Besides the forthcoming 390 KTM trail bike, I also wonder when Triumph will spin-off a trail or Adv bike from their 400 motor. Especially now they've signed Sam Sunderland as an ambassador.

https://transmoroccotrail.org/wp-con...cat-tan-2.jpeg

Wow - that CFMoto didnt have a long life in your ownership….?

I had a short testride in busy Chiang Mai traffic on the Hima450 - and I have to say I liked it. Well except from how it looks. It rode great and had fair amount of power and felt relatively light for what it is. I dont like the way it looks though….

I agree that a lighter bike would have been better up that gnarly trail - but its a real life test. Once in a while on a long trip you can face such roads - and if youre on a bike thats not up to the task - you have to turn back.

About the Triumph 400 cc engine - oh yeas a more travel oriented bike would be great. With some fairings and wind protection and a 20 liter petrol tank!

The Yanks have finally got the CFMoto450 (called Ibex over the pond)
And Ian at Big RockMoto is quite exited about it….

https://youtu.be/NQKvOWEn1fQ?si=RyBU4yao64R951Hb

I suspect they're selling every Scrambler 400 they can manufacture...

Yes the Him 450 is relatively hideous compared to the 410 which was a lovely plodder on the trail – not so much for getting there.
450 possibly better in plain colours with no naff graphics – but those ones are tubed afaik. Going for just £5k now. A set of OEM TL wheels from India £410 on eBay + tax.

Unfortunately Triumph wasted the 'Adventurer' name on some goofy mock-chop cruiser 30 years ago, but there was also the cooler TR5T Adventurer from the Seventies. So I think 3rd time out with Adventurer 400 would work for me.

Funnily enough the woman who bought my 450 sold a Scrambler 400 as she wanted something more off-roady.

I've moved the recent spate of posts about the Suzuki DRZ400 to a thread of its own as it was becoming too much of an off-topic diversion in a thread about the CRF 450.

The posts can be found at https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hu...-drz400-106044