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Rfothy 28 Oct 2014 11:01

3tb carb blocked??
 
Hello people been riding a 3tb to work recently but ran very low on petrol this morning (stuttered a couple of times).

Anyway made it to the petrol station opposite work and put some petrol in and then it started leaking. It's coming from a clear tube from the carb. I'm assuming this is an overflow?

Does this mean there is a blockage in the carb? Or an I going up the wrong street?

The bike starts and revs but still leaking (pretty fast).

Thanks
Rob

xtrock 28 Oct 2014 11:16

Overflow from carb, its not shutting on the needle. Or the screw for empty carb doesnt shut, is it underneath carb?

Rfothy 28 Oct 2014 11:27

Yeah! It's underneath the carb and to the left hand side...

xtrock 28 Oct 2014 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rfothy (Post 484370)
Yeah! It's underneath the carb and to the left hand side...

Yes you have a screw there, take it out and put it back in, check for damage. If this dont help, remove carb and check inside on the float valve.

Rfothy 28 Oct 2014 11:51

Thankyou people

xtrock 28 Oct 2014 11:56

I will suggest you remove carb, open up and take out the filter inside. Its underneath the screw under the float. Or you will have same problem after a while, check tank filter if its ok.

Rfothy 28 Oct 2014 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 484381)
Its just a tiny piss ant grain of sand thats allowing the needle valve to stay open just enough to allow fuel to pass, nothing to panic about its common on any engine.

It happened because you drained the tank low allowing the crap to come through to the carbie, if you had an in-line filter that would have caught the crap.

You will need to remove the carb & remove the needle float valve filter as that will be full of shit now as will your bowl.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...AAAAAAAAAA/9k=http://www.partsnmore.com/images/parts/480/48-1572.jpg

Mezo.


I did this today (with the AA man) outside work for about 3 hours. Now runs sweet and doesnt wee itself although i nee to adjust the idle I think as it doesnt idle without stalling.

Extra score when my foreman (boss) said he will still pay me for the time I was off work!

Bandit127 28 Oct 2014 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 484377)
Quick fix, whilst fuel is pissing all over the floor get the handle of a heavy screwdriver or an extension of a socket set & tap (fairly hard) the float bowl, keep tapping firmly until you dislodge the bit of crap in the needle valve.

Mezo.

...is the right answer.

He means heavy and he doesn't actually mean fairly hard. He means hard enough to make you worry you are going to pull it out of the seats.

I had this problem when I installed a new float needle and seat in mine. I carried out "the procedure" and it was fine after.

Rfothy 28 Oct 2014 22:34

Played round with the idle and wound it up a fair bit but the xt still cuts out after like 20 seconds. So going to replace the inline fuel filters this weekend and use the other bike for work.

Any other suggestions as to what might be at fault here?

Bobmech 29 Oct 2014 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 484505)
I will add a caveat to this :blushing:

You say 20 seconds,,,,the time it takes to empty a float bowl? is that just the engine ticking over? or revving the engine?

I forget now how long it takes to drain the bowl before the engine dies? anyone?

Mezo.

To drain the float bowl by turning the fuel tap off takes about 20 secs if riding under load, but if idling it takes several minutes.

Bob

Rfothy 5 Nov 2014 20:49

Ok I have taken the carb out out and looked over everything and all looks good and very clean and gaskets look good.

Rubber inlets look good too.

Just need to work out where the 'jets' are, Would like a hard paper copy of a manual for this bike. Its all digital at the moment :(

xtrock 5 Nov 2014 20:56

Have you removed the filter inside?

Rfothy 6 Nov 2014 20:02

Think I did I will open it up and check again

Rfothy 6 Nov 2014 20:25

Ok looking at the needle float valve filter at the moment, sorry i thought you were talking about something else.

Right I have taken out the small screw/bolt thing and not sure how to remove the valve. Do I just pull it upwards? And the float arm bits will be in the way.

Appreciate the help alot by the way. The bikes in bits in my mums kitchen and she is not best pleased I havent fixed it yet! Haha

xtrock 6 Nov 2014 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rfothy (Post 485214)
Ok looking at the needle float valve filter at the moment, sorry i thought you were talking about something else.

Right I have taken out the small screw/bolt thing and not sure how to remove the valve. Do I just pull it upwards? And the float arm bits will be in the way.

Appreciate the help alot by the way. The bikes in bits in my mums kitchen and she is not best pleased I havent fixed it yet! Haha

Use a plier and pill the brass out, wiggle and pull. First remove the float, remove the pin holding it, pulling it out, wiggle and pull.

Bobmech 6 Nov 2014 21:38

As xtrock says when removing the float pin [wiggle and pull].
Be careful you don't stress and break the float pin pedestals, easily done.

Bob

Rfothy 10 Nov 2014 21:08

Removed the floats etc and got the valve out and the part beneath out to find there is actually no filter in there? But there is crap around the area which I will clear out.

But Im not sure this is the problem.....

xtrock 10 Nov 2014 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rfothy (Post 485480)
Removed the floats etc and got the valve out and the part beneath out to find there is actually no filter in there? But there is crap around the area which I will clear out.

But Im not sure this is the problem.....

Buy filter, if there is crap there its importan to clean everything in carb, blow out the jets

Here is filter and other stuff cheap.


93-95 YAMAHA XT600 CARB REPAIR KIT CI-XT600BCR | eBay

Rfothy 20 Nov 2014 20:27

Ok replaced all the parts in the carb and cleaned everything out and all back together, just there is a broken gasket on the carb to engine head rubber inlet things....

I dont want to replace the rubbers as they are £50! Anyone know where I can get a gasket from or how to make one?

Thanks again

xtrock 20 Nov 2014 20:49

If problem is that they have loosen from metal you can glue them back on with special glue. Other than that you need to buy new. Here is a little better price: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Ansaugstutzen...item1e9187266e

Rfothy 20 Nov 2014 21:14

Damn it. Thanks

Rfothy 23 Dec 2014 21:34

Ok I need help again.

Bike ran sweet with new gaskets on the head to carb rubbers and drove it to the petrol station, where is stuttered the last few hundred yards.

Filled up and ran for another few hundred yards..... Wouldnt start and pushed home.

Removed carb to clean it again as I assumed this was the problem and main jet fell out, screwed this back in and the carb was as clean as a whistle.

Put it back together and it still didnt start.

Checked plug and It was blackened and had a weak spark.

Replaced and it started up first time and ran well although noticed oil came out the exhaust for a short time, took for a half hour run and ran well. After run I checked the exhaust for oil and no oil came out.

Started again in the morning and stopped down the road so pushed it back and went to work on the other bike.



Any suggestions of where to go next with this bike?
I think I messed up the pilot jet there as it has to be screwed in a certain amount?

Can anyone help!?

jjrider 23 Dec 2014 22:35

You where dumping a whole lot of gas in the engine as that jet unscrewed, that's where the black "oil" that came out of you exhaust was from. It wasn't oil, just a bunch of real dirty gas. Both jets get tightened down snugly (the ones inside the float bowl). If your talking about the screw that is underneath and in the front of carb that's the mixture screw , it gets turned in till it LIGHTLY seats then backed out 1-1/2 to 3 turns, depending on the bike. 1-1/2 turns out is a good place to start. There is an o'ring on it that seal plus should hold it from backing out.

Rfothy 27 Dec 2014 17:42

Took a look and realised there was a kink in the fuel line! doh

Idles sweet but will take for a ride again tomorrow....


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