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apinajus 2 Mar 2015 14:01

Tools list for travel
 
Hi buddies!
I will finally do my long motorbike trip with a WR250R. Will set off from Barcelona, head to Turkey then Caucasus and if I manage to get a Russian visa then coming back through Russia, Belarus, Poland and so on.

I am writing down everything I guess I will need but I got stuck with the tools and spares part.

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of items to take? I googled lots of articles about this but I think is better to rely on you guys.

Thanks so much!

xtrock 2 Mar 2015 21:45

Is that a good bike for long trips,would think its a bit small engine for highway and small tank? Good bike for mountain riding and offroad it is.

apinajus 3 Mar 2015 06:47

For me is the ideal bike for travel.
I've ordered a bigger tank already!

Any thoughts?

tmotten 3 Mar 2015 19:35

Don't worry mate. It's an awesome bike to take on a trip. And depending on your dirt skill levels, you'll be keeping going when the GS's will turn around. Other countries actually go smaller for touring rather than Europe's ideal of bigger for the motorway.

As for a list, I can fit all my tools in a Maxpedition EDC pouch for my WRR. It don't use ratchet drivers, instead have an adapter for my 10mm ratchet spanner. I haven't got a complete list, but I'd recommend trying to use what came with the bike on the next service, tire and drive chain change and body work strip (all of it) and see if you can make is smaller with better quality tools at the same time.

8,10,12 mm are the most common hex sizes and then it's just Allen and Phillips bits. The bigger stuff is for the wheels. I like sockets over spanners but use X-terra tire levers and spanner adapters which are small and strong instead of the really large sockets. Can't remember if I can take of the small sprocket with it. X-terra also do a tiny chain tools.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...020_131222.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...020_131331.jpg

apinajus 5 Mar 2015 06:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 497324)
Don't worry mate. It's an awesome bike to take on a trip. And depending on your dirt skill levels, you'll be keeping going when the GS's will turn around. Other countries actually go smaller for touring rather than Europe's ideal of bigger for the motorway.

As for a list, I can fit all my tools in a Maxpedition EDC pouch for my WRR. It don't use ratchet drivers, instead have an adapter for my 10mm ratchet spanner. I haven't got a complete list, but I'd recommend trying to use what came with the bike on the next service, tire and drive chain change and body work strip (all of it) and see if you can make is smaller with better quality tools at the same time.

8,10,12 mm are the most common hex sizes and then it's just Allen and Phillips bits. The bigger stuff is for the wheels. I like sockets over spanners but use X-terra tire levers and spanner adapters which are small and strong instead of the really large sockets. Can't remember if I can take of the small sprocket with it. X-terra also do a tiny chain tools.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...020_131222.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...020_131331.jpg

Thanks!

No worries as i know the wr is my right bike for travel :)

By the way, i was wondering... if i need to repair a puncture on the rear tyre on the road, how the hell i put the wheel out without a stand?

Cheers!

xtrock 5 Mar 2015 10:16

If there is no big rock to place it on, you could lay it down on the side.

apinajus 5 Mar 2015 14:22

Yes but in that case how do you center the wheel?

juanvaldez650 5 Mar 2015 14:39

I just got a WR250X. Do some search on "trail jack". It is an adjustable prop used in conjunction with the side stand. I made my own or a convenient stick will work.

Just got the IMS 3 gallon tank but the 4.7 might be better for long distance travel.

On the KLR I carry a 3/8" ratchet plus the sockets I need to change tire and plug. I carry spare tubes and clutch/brake lever. Tools to change tire plus skeletonized 12v compressor. water pump seals plug hex bits and 3/8" drive 1/4" socket to drive them in Phillips, straight and hex for everything on the bike. Vice Grips, 6" Crescent wrench, spoke wrench

xtrock 5 Mar 2015 15:42

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Originally Posted by apinajus (Post 497533)
Yes but in that case how do you center the wheel?

You can center wheel when you raise bike up again.

tmotten 5 Mar 2015 15:54

Or lean it against a tree, stuff your luggage under it or use a trail stand. You can make your own with some aluminum tube and a piece of angle. Or just the tube. I've got a steel one from advrider, but I'm making a lighter one and strap it to the sub frame. If I can be bothered, because I don't ride alone. Normally my wife or mates hold it on the side stand. Another advantage of a light bike

apinajus 5 Mar 2015 17:17

Thanks for the tricks!

yokesman 6 Mar 2015 18:28

I would not leave without a small set of files to compliment the the epoxies n rtv.at least a rat tail,triangular mill,alot of fitting can be done with these two.

Jens Eskildsen 7 Mar 2015 15:25

A little bit of sandpaper goes a long way if you need to prep a surface for JBweld ect. I keep a piece in my tire patchkit, and also use it to roughen up a tube before i patch it.

I wouldn't bring files myself.

apinajus 7 Mar 2015 16:30

What all of you mean by "files"?

TwoUpFront 7 Mar 2015 17:18

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Originally Posted by apinajus (Post 497748)
What all of you mean by "files"?


https://www.machinemart.co.uk/images.../040213080.jpg

apinajus 7 Mar 2015 22:00

Thanks!

TwoUpFront 8 Mar 2015 11:50

No problem :)

tmotten 9 Mar 2015 16:42

First time I've heard of that one. I typically use sandpaper. Most towns will have those sorts is tools lying around.

Most multitool's have one as well

apinajus 18 Mar 2015 09:10

hi guys,
Just thinking... with motorbikes is it worth to carry a set of cables for gas, brakes, clutch in case they broke? Is it difficult to replace them?

I've done a lot of cycle touring and it is really common (and easy to change) to carry a set of cables....

thanks!

TwoUpFront 18 Mar 2015 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinajus (Post 498984)
hi guys,
Just thinking... with motorbikes is it worth to carry a set of cables for gas, brakes, clutch in case they broke? Is it difficult to replace them?

I've done a lot of cycle touring and it is really common (and easy to change) to carry a set of cables....

thanks!

A lot of people pull an extra set of cables before they go (and tape the ends) so that in case one of them goes, it's a simple matter of swapping the ends, rather than pull new ones. Because, you just know it's going to break in the wind and rain. Pulling them beforehand also means that they don't take up any room in your pack(s).

WIth hydraulics, I never bothered. Not even on my bicycles. On a motorcycle I carry a bleeder kit and a couple of nipples for the end of the piping.

Never had any problems other than the occasional need to bleed the brakes.

tmotten 18 Mar 2015 18:01

On the first trip we went through some cables. Typically at the nipple. But on the second we didn't have any issues, and it lasted until I sold it. I do carry a spare usually, but am wondering if I will next time. Might just take an emergency repair kit. Not sure yet. Heard mixed reviews about those.

The clutch one is the one that's key on mine, as Yamaha uses a dual wire throttle cable. Just keep an eye on it and map out the places where you can find parts like that.

Never had any luck routing spare cables along the bike. Always had snagging.

Jens Eskildsen 18 Mar 2015 18:34

My gascable is stock, and I try to wind it out once or twice:D

The clutch is the same, bike has 150.000km.

I dont bother, but have a repairkit with spare nipples to solder on, but only bring it for really large trips.

If you're worried, buy new ones, lube them up and mount them. You should be fine for ages.

mollydog 18 Mar 2015 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinajus (Post 498984)
hi guys,
Just thinking... with motorbikes is it worth to carry a set of cables for gas, brakes, clutch in case they broke? Is it difficult to replace them?

I've done a lot of cycle touring and it is really common (and easy to change) to carry a set of cables....

thanks!

Small jumper cables are a good idea in case battery goes dead. But DO NOT worry about throttle cable or clutch. If your bike is fairly new (under 5 years) then the throttle and clutch cables should be FINE.

I would carry 3 tire irons ... two small, one large. Also, 2 or 3 spare tubes.
Below, just a couple different tool kits I have used. Just a couple ideas for you.

http://patricksphotos.smugmug.com/ph...-v9hgTf3-L.jpg

http://patricksphotos.smugmug.com/ph...-tQtpDH3-L.jpg
Note: Quik Steel, Two part Epoxy, Elec tape on tool handles, small stick magnet, levers, emery cloth, rubber cement,
small elec. kit with multimeter, grip lock pliers. NOT SHOWN BUT IMPORTANT: tire irons, LED headlight for working on bike or whatever, spare tubes.

Careful editing is important, getting rid of tools that do not fit your bike or you do not need. Yours is a modern bike, very little to go wrong beyond flat tires and doing oil changes and picking up dirty fuel.

tmotten 22 Mar 2015 00:22

Steel wire could be used as jumper cables as well if you can keep them separated in use. Steel wire can be used for lots of other things as well

apinajus 24 Mar 2015 19:04

Sorry for bother you again! :-D

When I go cycle touring I carry a chain tool in case I have to change/shorten the chain. In modern cycle chains there is another easier system with a sort of clips that can be easily removed with a long thin pliers.

I've seen that motorcycles chains are pretty similar but I do not see the chain tools in your tool sets. How do you manage that??

cheers

alex

tmotten 25 Mar 2015 15:42

There is. It's just very small. Haven't seen a smaller one.
It's the terra-x chain breaker.
I rather have it and never having to use it than the other way around. Always carry a few links as well.


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