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UPDATE: Never mind, I see you have already watched it!

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Go watch Ewan & Charley's series Long Way Up.
They ride a pair of Harley Livewire electric motorcycles, plus a couple of Rivian electric trucks from Tierra del Fuego to Los Angeles.
You may find the troubles they run into with electrical Infrastructure enlightening.

It's on Apple TV, but I believe there are extensive clips on Youtube and elsewhere.

https://tv.apple.com/ca/show/long-wa...&mttnsubplmnt=

Yeah the issue they had was what they always seem to have issues with:
  • "Ewen has to be back in town by X date, we better rush!"
  • "We picked vehicles that we could get offered to us for free, rather than picking the best tool for the job.


The Rivians and the Livewires were *terrible* choices, mostly because the Rivians had only 250 miles of optimal range on a good day, and the Livewires weren't even offroad bikes AND only have 90 miles of range on a good day.

I've owned a Tesla Model S and a Zero SR, they're not for that job and definitely don't have the safety margin to go out into the boonies regardless of modification. I was raging at the show the entire time because of this.

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the Rivians had only 250 miles of optimal range on a good day, and the Livewires weren't even offroad bikes AND only have 90 miles of range on a good day.
The whole thing was a scam from start to finish.



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You'll never find a bigger critic of LWU than myself. Mostly because I'm a fan of EVs and also an adventure motorcyclist. I've owned both, I have I think a decent feel for what's reasonable. What LWU portrayed was not reasonable or at all truthful.

My expectations for overlanding in something like a Tesla Cybertruck is getting between 400-500 miles on a single charge, with only 120-250 miles per day expected of actual transit. I'm willing to stop for a day or multiple days to charge, I'm in no rush, and would have solar on the vehicle as a last resort. I'm even willing to bring a gas generator if I find it unreasonable to expect less than 250 miles on gravel or because of temperature issues.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The Italian T-rex Bremach???

Add more batteries to increase range and find a way to charge the batteries along the way - then sure, why not? Charging by solar would take ages. Charging by generator would kindif defeat the purpose somewhat? I guess, if you went painstakingly slow to allow for recharging on a low output charger that wouldn't cause a fire to whatever you tap into - sure, why not?

There are now also great electric motorcycles that might be more suitable.









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Much depends on your definition of Overlanding and where you want to go

From March 2016 until April 2019, in the early days of electric vehicles, and before there was much EV infrastructure, anywhere, Dutchman Weibe Wakker drove a borrowed electric VW from the Netherlands to New Zealand. His 1,222 day, 100,450 kilometres (62,417 miles) road adventure took him through 34 countries. He accomplished this by asking people to plug into homes and businesses and donate some of their electricity.

Can it be done? Sure. Wakker showed it can. But range and having infrastructure to recharge are going to be, IMHO, the biggest limiting factors. If you plan to cross the Sahara, for example, you may want to have lots of water, food, solar panels, and time available. Also, if you need to carry your living room chesterfield every where you go to be comfortable, that too will be a limiting factor.

More about Wakker's road trip »

https://adventuretrend.com/dutchman-...oad-trip-tips/
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