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I just don't see it..
I must have been thrown by,
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Just wondering...what's it to you?
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Ah Yes...
Thanks Tiffany, you did make me laugh and Starbeck, yes I forgot about Ewan and Charlie.
I think I see it now...
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Originally Posted by Bundubasher
Just wondering...what's it to you?
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Adds extra shite to wade through when what some people want is a motorcycle site, not an all roads vehicle site, I suspect. Don't particularly mind it personally as long as people make it clear in their thread headings (which most usually do) that they are talking about 4x4's so I can skip 'em.
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Don't 4x4s have their own forum area in the HUBB? All tech posts specific to 4x4s go in there and the other regional travel posts are sometimes quite useful (or as useful as posts by motorcycle travellers generally are).
As long as people post in the right forum, I can't see there being an issue with sh** to wade through. Just use the right area of the forum like you did with this thread. Oh ,hang on... sub sahara....4x4s ....? 
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Personally I think the HUBB left behind any vehicle bias long ago, regardless of titles.
Some bits are two wheel specific, some for those with more. Most just covers "travellers", and that I think is good.
In fact well under half of the forums are bike specific 
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Based purely on my 9 months experience so far through Africa, I think 4X4's should be more than welcome!
How many riders have (or have heard of riders who have) had a 4X4 carry some of their gear through a really nasty patch? Or, like in my case, help drag my heavy-ass bike up out of a deep gravel ditch?
How many riders have enjoyed the comforts of home (cold ) that bush camping with a 4X4 can provide?
How many riders have shared Embassy, camping, border crossing, etc info with 4X4ers?
As long as 4X4 posts are clearly marked as such, I think they can provide and get value to/from this site as much as anyone else...
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Originally Posted by Docsherlock
Adds extra shite to wade through when what some people want is a motorcycle site, not an all roads vehicle site, I suspect. Don't particularly mind it personally as long as people make it clear in their thread headings (which most usually do) that they are talking about 4x4's so I can skip 'em.
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Amazingly enough, it's a place for motorcycles, 4X4s and bicycles  . So if you don't want this kind of site..........!
Maybe it's only you who thinks HU has "shite to wade through"? 
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Originally Posted by Mangochi Taxi
I must have been thrown by,
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Yes, that's what threw you. Probably.
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Okay, I'm sorry
My point, and I do have one, is that I agree with (almost) all that's been said.
One month into a 7 month motorbike trip in Africa I realised that the advice/information (although accurate) I was getting from
some 4x4 guys just didn't apply to ME.
No reflection on the travellers as individuals but it became obvious that the mode of transport you choose dictates all.
Caminando, you'll know this from your Africa Twin travels.
Everything's different:
Border crossings, police checks, campsites, tar roads, , any roads, sand, mud...
So if it's being posted outside the 4x4 forums it should be pointed out if your 4x4 or on 2 wheels.
If that's okay?
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I don't agree. If that's OK.
Bye now.
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Wtf!
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Originally Posted by Mangochi Taxi
My point, and I do have one, is that I agree with (almost) all that's been said.
One month into a 7 month motorbike trip in Africa I realised that the advice/information (although accurate) I was getting from
some 4x4 guys just didn't apply to ME.
No reflection on the travellers as individuals but it became obvious that the mode of transport you choose dictates all.
Caminando, you'll know this from your Africa Twin travels.
Everything's different:
Border crossings, police checks, campsites, tar roads, , any roads, sand, mud...
So if it's being posted outside the 4x4 forums it should be pointed out if your 4x4 or on 2 wheels.
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How are camp sites, tar roads, any roads different to you? So if a 4wd-er posts that a certain route is 700 km desert, unsupported, no fuel, soft sand, rough tracks with apple size stones, that is useless to you!!
What I read from this is that you have difficulty understanding and interpreting general information and apply it to your situation, maybe due to lack of experience?
You can choose to stay away from 4W drivers if they have nothing to offer to you, or if you don't understand what they are saying.
So you push your own bike when its broken down, don't shed bagage to 4WD when the going gets too though after days of extreme soft sand in the sahel or 1 m deep mud ruts in central Africa during the rainy season, don't hook up with 4WD to carry your fuel on long desert crossings.
Make no mistake, all of this I have done for and with bikers!
Like Caminando says, inappropriate. You post pisses me off. Saying sorry is at least something.
Anyway
Good luck and happy travels...
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Originally Posted by noel di pietro
How are camp sites, tar roads, any roads different to you? So if a 4wd-er posts that a certain route is 700 km desert, unsupported, no fuel, soft sand, rough tracks with apple size stones, that is useless to you!!
What I read from this is that you have difficulty understanding and interpreting general information and apply it to your situation, maybe due to lack of experience?
You can choose to stay away from 4W drivers if they have nothing to offer to you, or if you don't understand what they are saying.
So you push your own bike when its broken down, don't shed bagage to 4WD when the going gets too though after days of extreme soft sand in the sahel or 1 m deep mud ruts in central Africa during the rainy season, don't hook up with 4WD to carry your fuel on long desert crossings.
Make no mistake, all of this I have done for and with bikers!
Like Caminando says, inappropriate. You post pisses me off. Saying sorry is at least something.
Anyway
Good luck and happy travels...
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I'm with Noel on this one...
I'm a biker and 4-wheeler and have travelled a fair bit on 4 wheels. So I will ignore all the knowledge and experience I gained when travelling down Africa on 4 wheels for my proposed trip back up Africa on 2 wheels...
Yes, that would make sense now, wouldn't it...  ?
It's up to you to do whatever you want with information you get from other travellers, be it 2 or 4 wheels. Applying it in the correct manner is normally the key. use it or lose it...it's up to you
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Interesting...
If I had listened to all the 4x4 "Advice" I was given I wouldn't have driven the route I took in Africa and most of all I would never have driven the road north of Nairobi to Ethiopia...
It's easy to interpret usless information, ignore it..
Guess I'm not one for watching the world go by from the comfort of an air con cabin...
Happy Holidays...
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Could you post up a picture of yourself and your machine please
Then us 4x4'ers will be able to recognise you keep well away from you as our approaches will plainly not be welcome when you are badly injured and need help , we can just walk on by safe in the knowledge we are carrying out your wishes
I think one of my biggest hates is poeple who want to be devisive. There is enough trouble in the world without creating more divisions here
Now please do us all a favour and start your travels NOW !
Happy lone travels
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