How are camp sites, tar roads, any roads different to you? So if a 4wd-er posts that a certain route is 700 km desert, unsupported, no fuel, soft sand, rough tracks with apple size stones, that is useless to you!!

What I read from this is that you have difficulty understanding and interpreting general information and apply it to your situation, maybe due to lack of experience?


You can choose to stay away from 4W drivers if they have nothing to offer to you, or if you don't understand what they are saying.

So you push your own bike when its broken down, don't shed bagage to 4WD when the going gets too though after days of extreme soft sand in the sahel or 1 m deep mud ruts in central Africa during the rainy season, don't hook up with 4WD to carry your fuel on long desert crossings.
Make no mistake, all of this I have done for and with bikers!


Like Caminando says, inappropriate. You post pisses me off. Saying sorry is at least something.

Anyway
Good luck and happy travels...

Noel

I'm with Noel on this one...

I'm a biker and 4-wheeler and have travelled a fair bit on 4 wheels. So I will ignore all the knowledge and experience I gained when travelling down Africa on 4 wheels for my proposed trip back up Africa on 2 wheels...

Yes, that would make sense now, wouldn't it... ?

It's up to you to do whatever you want with information you get from other travellers, be it 2 or 4 wheels. Applying it in the correct manner is normally the key. use it or lose it...it's up to you

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If I had listened to all the 4x4 "Advice" I was given I wouldn't have driven the route I took in Africa and most of all I would never have driven the road north of Nairobi to Ethiopia...

It's easy to interpret usless information, ignore it..

Guess I'm not one for watching the world go by from the comfort of an air con cabin...


Happy Holidays...

Could you post up a picture of yourself and your machine please

Then us 4x4'ers will be able to recognise you keep well away from you as our approaches will plainly not be welcome when you are badly injured and need help , we can just walk on by safe in the knowledge we are carrying out your wishes

I think one of my biggest hates is poeple who want to be devisive. There is enough trouble in the world without creating more divisions here

Now please do us all a favour and start your travels NOW !

Happy lone travels

Rich

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Any neither am I, no air con in my cruiser, windows always wide open, no helmet and no visor blocking my views and smothering the sounds of Africa. So you see, preconceived ideas all the way! You are so 1990's

And thanks for confirming that you don't know how to interpret information given to you! Sums it all up I guess. The problem is YOU, but I think you will disagree, despite the overwhelming evidence in the above 3 pages.

Happy lonely travels,
Noel

So, 1 or more 4x4 drivers give you an opinion on a particular route. Having done the route youself you're now of a different opinion: You have 3 choices:
a. Say nothing
b. Tell the HUBB community about your experiences so we can all learn
c. Suggest that fellow travellers are not welcome on the HUBB because they aren't in/on the same type of vehicle as you.

You choose option C .... I have a sneaking suspicion you're not going to be getting much more advice from this community, whether bikers or 4x4 drivers.

As suggested elsewhere on this thread: Please post a picture of you and your bike so HuBBers can put a face/bike to a name. How about a Ride Report?

Good luck
Chris

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OP
Are 4x4 posts relevant to this sight?

Yes

As for why, Grant said so. It is his sight. He has a spot for push bikes to.


To the rest
Why is this post not in the hub bar? This is a clear troll Op did not care if 4x4 are part of the hub or why or where. It is not like he must read every post about some road in Africa. He has shown that he makes up his own mind about roads to ride. This is a troll.

You all talk about driving or riding past him if he is in need but you know you will stop. You want a sorry from him ok I will give you it.


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Mangochi Taxi
Sorry Im a troll but know my way is the best way and I am the best that there ever will be. I am so dam grate I do no wrong ever my bike never will brake down and fulled by gust my gratenes. The earth cools when I am hot by gust my will, flows from the rocks at my word. I am the DOG nuts! Hell I am not sorry at all kneel to your better! Only wright about what I wish to read as I wish to read it gust for me!!


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Wow man you think with all your grateness you will not need the hub but hear you are wanting to be spoon feed information about roads and how to ride them on a your bike then whine when you get it. "I would never have driven the road north of Nairobi to Ethiopia" You ride a bike you drive a car or 4x4. Roads change some times from day to day and you know it they gave there idea of the road at that time. You did not follow there information, good for you I do the same thing, so why is there a problem you did the right thing.
All your trips are yours to take you will live with your choice as do we all. Grant the man that owns this sight went around the world with out the HUB, the net, and had to make his boxes for his bike as no one made them. He had A map Africa when he went with that and local help he did it. You have been given free info from people that have been there GPS data any help you need and want all free. Then you come here and piss on all of it?
You have not been outside the UK far have you? You act like this away from home you repay people hospitality this way? There are places that will not take this even if you pay them. Many people are saying good luck on your trip I will be nice and say stay home get some help from some older people or your mom and dad about manners it will save you many more problems than is a post about a 4x4 or a bike.

ps. Any 4x4 that sees me I will take any help and you want to give me. And AC when it is hot all the better.

I was thinking last night in bed before I went to sleep (yep, I think of HUBB stuff on my way to sleep: I must be a real saddo ) that Mr Taxi must be a Troll. Never heard such an outrageous comment from an individual serious about travel.



I think Phil was the best part of Genesis.

Hugs
C

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George Michael for me all the way .

To Mangochi Taxi

I might not have Your great knowledge and experience but the way I see it advice is welcome from anyone. It`s up to You to use it in the right way and filter the info. Just becouse You had a bad experience with info provided by 1 4x4 driver (and who relies on 1 information only - always some more research is needed), but this do not gives You right to question presence of 4x4 drivers on here.
When I`m setting off for my travels everyone on a bike or not is welcome to the : and whatever else they need on the road (no AC in a 101).


OMG...I just feed a troll


Raf

whats the say the same info from a 2 wheel friend wouldn't be the same? people's perception of terrain is all the same no matter what they drive/ride.

I didn't realise there was so much dislike for 4wd. I will think long and hard from now on on offering water/ or kit lifts.

thanks for opening my eyes.

G

ps. some of us dont have air con.

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Hi Grifdowg,

Please don't be disappointed !!!!! If you read all of the above posts carefully you'll see there is NO dislike of 4WD at all, only the this Taxi caricature is speaking ill of 4Wders! All others are defending the Hubb as a platform for all independent travellers, 4 wheel, 2 wheel, 1 wheel or what ever wheels!


cheers,
Noel