Hi guys!

As a 2 wheeled fiend who enjoys travelling I've come to the HUBB... However, my next big adventure will be on 4 wheels, and I have no idea where to look to ask, research, and learn about my next trip.

Does anyone know of a 4 wheeled overlanding forum? (and I should stress I said 4 wheels ... that's not to say 4x4). I see lots of websites for 4x4 overlanders but they just look like a weekend warrior tour package sites. I want the nitty gritty... tech questions about where i can find my "One Life Live It!" stickers... or how many sand ladders I need to look competent or what's the best colour scheme for my jerry cans if I have at least 4m^2 of checker plate covering my vehicle.

Well, maybe regardless of this detail if anyone may know the answer to this very primary question: Permanently importing a vehicle into Mongolia... so far my searches have only shown me that vehicles over 10 years old are substantially more expensive to import. However, where is all this information written?

I'd love to know more... places to look.

Neil

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Hi Neil,

I would say that this is a good place to start 4x4 or not there are experienced people on here from all walks of life and with many different vehicles. Just ask your questions and you will receive honest practical advice.

Good luck Graeme

This seems to be the "HUBB" for serious 4 wheeled travellers too - I'm often told stuff similar to what you said above.

Besides, 2 and 4 wheels have more or less the same issues everywhere so much of it is relevant to both.

I'm very curious - WHY would you want to permanently import a vehicle into Mongolia? I have no info myself on rules for importing into Mongolia, sorry - but someone must know!

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Duly noted and mostly agreed with. However, 4 wheeled specific stuff like, raising the vehicle (from stock suspension) and changing wheel sizes, are things I'm seriously considering, and I'm in the situation of: never-done-it-before.

I'm intending on doing something very similar to the Mongol Rally without participating in the event, in a 400-500cc car and at my leisure. Ultimately, selling the vehicle on once in Ulan Bator.

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Why not ask the adventurists (who run the mongol rally) they may offer some assitance or information about importing the vehicle into mongolia??

The Adventurists :: fighting to make the world less boring

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I just had a mental picture of a FIAT 500 (the proper one, not the new one) jacked up like a mini-monster truck! Would LOVE to see pix of that!

What kind of car are you thinking?

Matt

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Hehe... similar... only not that jacked up.



Having had plenty of experience trying to wreck an Aixam micro-car....
<= not this car... but this is what it looks like when not naked.

...the past few years in spain:


..and it proving near indestructible, uber-efficient ~80mpg (and runs on diesel), weighs 380kgs and can be lifted on 2 wheels by a mere mortal. So with that established, I'm keen to buy one in the UK and making it overland-spec:

1. A little more ground clearance,
2. Standard car wheel size so that tyres are easier to come by.
3. A little (not too much) reinforcement for the underside, and lower sides
4. And taking on suggestions.

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Hi Neil

Have you done this yet? We're more than happy to offer any advice if you would like to give us a call or drop us an email.

Last year there were at least 4 groups who tried to do this without first researching the cost of importing their vehicle into Mongolia. PLEASE do your research first as most do not realise it is a hell of a lot cheaper (and a lot less hassle) to do this with the Rally than to try and import the vehicles themselves.

In 2012 we saw the Czech embassy bailing out one couple attempting to do this, another who lost several thousands of dollars attempting to import and sell their large and old 4x4, one turned away at the Mongolian border who were then charged a fine for returning to Russia after being stamped out, and one more who abandoned their vehicle that may or may not realise they'll be arrested if they ever return - Mongolian customs failed to get them on the way out (they mistakenly came to us first thinking that it might be on our Rally).

Not a sales pitch, I just don't want to see the same situations we tend to see a few times each year when people come to us asking for help importing their vehicles because they weren't aware of the import cost.

[Was hoping to insert a link to current import costs for Mongolia, but nowhere seems to have uptodate information. If you drop us an email we can tell you the current costs.]

Rob (Mongol Rally Event Manager)
mongolrally@theadventurists.com

Rob, I decided to concentrate my efforts on a far more worthy cause, besides this was 2011. After researching, I concluded Mongolia would be far more appreciated on 2 wheels.

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