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May I add to this, that NOT having a roof tent or pop top style roof makes for very uncomfortable, if not impossible sleeping conditions, when in hot area's.
Without proper ventilation it's just too hot…

Think anywhere around the equator, Australia, etc…

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I'm under the impression that part of Landrover, probably through special vehicles still makes a rest of the world spec Defender which can be ordered with the 300TDI. That way you would get your new vehicle but without electronics. On the budget, does look low for what your hoping to achieve. Doing things like minimising shipping, cutting out expensive countries like China would do a lot to make your budget go further. Alternatively try and get a co driver who picks up half the costs. Again will make your budget stretch alot further but does open up challenge of finding a suitable travelling companion.
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hi noha
we have a r/rover 6x4 fitted with a 2.8tdi international engine 140 bhp. same design as a300tdti, but with an extra 29bhp in standered tune it fits in to most l/rovers very easily.on our recent trip the r/r weighed 3.5t and averaged 27mpg over17000miles. they are supplied by motor&diesel in cambridge uk
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I'm under the impression that part of Landrover, probably through special vehicles still makes a rest of the world spec Defender which can be ordered with the 300TDI.
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Swb vs. Lwb

I always feel much more stable at speed on Tar and dirt roads in my 110 than all the 90s I've driven.
It's also much more comfortable on poor roads as it doesn't pitch like a 90.
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May I add to this, that NOT having a roof tent or pop top style roof makes for very uncomfortable, if not impossible sleeping conditions, when in hot area's.
Without proper ventilation it's just too hot…

Think anywhere around the equator, Australia, etc…

Kai
Kai,

We did not have a roof tent on the Troopy (I don't like roof tents) and always slept in the car, even in Sudan, 50 degress C during the day, 39 degrees C in the night. I had no problem sleeping in the car, you do need a fan though. If its 39 degrees outside, its not any cooler than that in the roof tent either and the fine moscito mesh effectively blocks the ventilation in roof tent too. I guess, it does not matter a lot how your set up is, there are always pro's and con's. You have to be flexible and live with it, thats part of the fun of travelling anyway! You put up with stuff you would never accept at home

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You can it expensive as you wish. You can leave your startpoint full packed but you can leave your startpoint even with only the necessary things. During your trip you will find the needed things. Personal I think it is the way to get contact with the local people. In every country you will find a solution for your needed things.

The people of this website show their budget and the real cost.
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And remember, it is easy to make a world trip with a budget of 100k. But it is a real adventure to do it with 10k.
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Kai,
We did not have a roof tent on the Troopy (I don't like roof tents) and always slept in the car, even in Sudan, 50 degress C during the day, 39 degrees C in the night. I had no problem sleeping in the car, you do need a fan though. If its 39 degrees outside, its not any cooler than that in the roof tent either and the fine moscito mesh effectively blocks the ventilation in roof tent too. I guess, it does not matter a lot how your set up is, there are always pro's and con's. You have to be flexible and live with it, thats part of the fun of travelling anyway! You put up with stuff you would never accept at home
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Dag Noel, I take your point, there are always pros and cons, and I'm speaking purely from an Australian outback perspective, where the general consensus (from locals), is that a tent with good ventilation (either roof tent or trailer camper tent) provides more comfort then sleeping in the car, it's the main complaint of tourists that travel in the troopy campervan conversions, they find it hard to sleep in them… but then, the australian outback can get very, very hot!

Had a look at your site, very informative!

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I don't see why one person can't fit all thier gear into a 90 and have a perfectly comfortable trip - a 110 for one person? total overkill surely??

I will concede that the ride in a 110 is better over hard choppy ground, but I wouldn't swop my 90 for a 110 for a trip as there are more benefits than drawbacks in my opinion. Easier to drive through busy unfamiliar towns, easier to reverse, easier to park, faster, more economical, better off road, and I don't have to give people lifts

A rooftent would be a good investment though as a tent/mattress and sleeping bag can swallow up a lot of space - the next one I buy will be a hard shell one - easy to put up and down and you can keep your sleeping bag/pillow in it.

I would also suggest a 300TDi over a Puma engine at this early stage in thier development and as they are so reliable and easy to work on.

I would also suggest you dont need to throw 10K at bullbars/winches and other assorted iron ware - get a good shovel and a set of waffles and a diff guard - and then go on an off-road driving course and learn how to avoid getting yourself into a winching situation in the first place

Most important bit of kit - a good stereo with MP3 connection - next best bit of kit - a flask.
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We keep two sleeping bags, pyjamas, pillows, clothes, mp3 player and lights all in our hannibal roof tent. Might be other reasons to go for a hard shell, but you can certainly leave your stuff in it, unless I am missing something.
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We keep two sleeping bags, pyjamas, pillows, clothes, mp3 player and lights all in our hannibal roof tent. Might be other reasons to go for a hard shell, but you can certainly leave your stuff in it, unless I am missing something.
Fair point - guess some cloth tops are more spacious than others I think - my German made autocamp tent folds down precisely to the height of the mattress with no spare space - can just about get two sleeping bags in if they are laid out flat, anything more makes it stick up a bit on one side like a wedge. Which bugs me. My previous one was the same as well.
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No I think about it the wife did have to jump around on it alot to get it closed first of all
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