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Old 16 Apr 2012
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riding around AUS without registration and roadworthiness inspection

Hi guys,


we´ll arrive in AUS in a month and we consider to skip the registration/roadworthiness inspection/third liability insurance.


Stupid idea or worth a try?



If we have an accident, it will be a problem - no question! I´m aware of that.
But how are the chance to get through with it otherwise?
Does the police do regular road controls to check these things?


Greetings from NZ


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Not a good idea really.

Australia has regular random breath testing controls (particularly on popular routes in and out of the cities on a Thursday to Saturday evening). Whilst they might not always check your documentation at an RBT control if you are under the drink-driving limit, it is a significant risk.
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Not a good idea really.

Australia has regular random breath testing controls (particularly on popular routes in and out of the cities on a Thursday to Saturday evening). Whilst they might not always check your documentation at an RBT control if you are under the drink-driving limit, it is a significant risk.
good argument
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also man, to get a roadworthy certificate for a motorcycle is pretty basic, and cheap. I just had my bike done for around $110 au. insurance wouldn't be much more again. maybe $130, and i can guarantee that if you get caught it will cost you much more than that.
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also man, to get a roadworthy certificate for a motorcycle is pretty basic, and cheap. I just had my bike done for around $110 au. insurance wouldn't be much more again. maybe $130, and i can guarantee that if you get caught it will cost you much more than that.
Yeah, it's not just about not getting caught; it's pretty bloody selfish to ride without insurance - if you have an accident and damage someone else or their property, how are you going to compensate them? Life's not all about evading rules for no reason - ride responsibly and consider the people around you.
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Hi guys,

If you say you are established in the NSW area then the government do a uninsured driver scheme and rego exemption. the first year we did the full rego and insurance in Freemantle cheap and easy but the second year we never bothered. Had loads of police stops and not one bothered with docs once they know your a tourist. we had one bump but the tourist excess was $1000 so we just settled in cash for his paint job but if you kill some one the insurence is worth it.

We travel slowly so that reduces the risk but it is always there.
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In South Aust. Driving unregistered $600 driving uninsured $650. car /bike taken for 28days and the cost to get it back $180. then to take it to have it inspected to register it $380 plus then paying for the registation $130 for 3 mounths or $450 for twelve months.
Licence suspention on the spot 6 month with out going to court.
Thats a lot of money
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Which particular state are you shipping into from NZ? .. as different rules apply to each one.

Similar to you, I temporarily imported a foreign registered (Kiwi) bike into Victoria, Aus. I then applied for non-registered vehicle transport accident cover (TAC). This was not only compulsory, but highly desirable in my opinion.

Note that this was not full-blown registration or a registration permit, but instead it’s a facility for a situation just like you are facing right now. If you find yourself in VIC, then go to any VicRoads Customer Service Centre to get this all sorted.

The certificates issued to me by VicRoads provided cover for benefits and/or liabilities under the Transport Accident Act 1988, relating to injury or death only. The costs involved were:
  1. First period from 12/03/2010 – 26/05/2010 (75 days) ………….. AU$112.20
  2. Second period from 02/03/2011 - 16/05/2011 (75 days) ……… AU$114.40
NB - No cover was provided under TAC for damage to motor vehicles or other property. For these risks I purchased comprehensive insurance cover from Swann Insurance at a cost of AU$22.55 per month. When my trip was over I simply cancelled Swann's monthly standing order.

PS – I think it’s highly irresponsible (and f#cking stupid!) to contemplate travelling around Australia's roads, as a guest in their country, without effecting at least the mandatory TAC cover.

Good luck with your trip. Oz is bloody awesome! ..

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Thanks for your replies!

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In WA at Fremantle dead easy, turn up in the morning with carnet no appointment nessasary.

MOT and Licensing of the car use the Licensing centre on 13 11 56 there web site is www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing they are on the corner of Leach/stock it is a first come first served basis. get a 48 hour permit then drive to the inspection centre you can buy your License her as well it costs $11 for the 48 hour permit $98 for the inspection & $280 for 1 year.

Insurance we used the RAC at 312 Garden City, Booragoon for $125 third party insurance for the year ring Jill up on 08 9364 3865 to arrange cover.
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Maybe the OP asks this, because in many 3rd world countries it is in fact very difficult to get any insurance, that's actually worth more than the paper it it printed on! But Australia is not such a country, so when you have insurance, it is plausible it will work in case of an accident. Plus it's clearly illegal to ride without it, and penalties would be handed out accordingly. If you have foreign plates, it is likely that they will check, if they stop you.

Possible savings vs. risks, clearly not worth it IMO.
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What pecha72 says.

There are some costs involved in doing the right thing but doing the wrong thing can be far more expensive.

There's also, in my view, the question of your own integrity...
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Insurance

I am an Aussie, and trust me there is no grey areas when it comes to insurance & the law. If you are caught you will get hit & hit hard, there is no buying your way out of situations here, plus what if you hit one of my daughters ? Now there is a personal perspective on it now !!! But we are all guilty of hair brain ideas from time to time So i am sure you will see the logic & at the end of the day you will remember our country as an amazing place with friendly people, poisonous snakes, man eating sharks, deadly spiders, giant kangaroos & not for what we charged you for insurance. Plus if you fell off your bike in the middle of no where what other country would send a helicopter to pick you up and take you to hospital free of charge
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remember our country as an amazing place with friendly people, poisonous snakes, man eating sharks, deadly spiders, giant kangaroos ...


Hey mate, you forgot to mention Danni Minogue!





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