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More questions. Notable difference in power between 50 bhp Monolever and 60 bhp Paralever? Are the gas tanks from the paralevers and monolevers interchangeable? What is the "pogo-stick" or "hop" people indicate the Monolever had versus the Paralever?
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More questions. Notable difference in power between 50 bhp Monolever
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R80 motor?
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and 60 bhp Paralever?
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R100 motor ? - 200 cc of difference.
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Are the gas tanks from the paralevers and monolevers interchangeable?
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For people prepared to accept some small differences - yes. For people after perfection - no. Gap between seat and tank.
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What is the "pogo-stick" or "hop" people indicate the Monolever had versus the Paralever?
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You get that difference on washboard - with the engine power on. The paralever is better that as it removes some of the torque reaction from the suspension system. Some people prefer the extra relabnility of the monolever system.
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R80 G/s
Regarding the Monolever (81-87) vs the Paralever (88-95/97?): Yes the Paralever is better on some surfaces, with the power on. Washboard being one such surface that really brings out the jacking, or stiffening of the rear swingarm. I've had both bikes, and would say that the difference in a stock setup is noticeable but more influenced by the shock. So, Monolever with a good shock is betterthen/ equal to the Paralever with the stock shock.
Reliability/ simplicity: Monolever wins hands down.
The only other issue to consider is tubeless tire fitment. Grant feels this is a significant enough safety issue that he is moving towards fitting his G/S with a paralever to get the tubeless tires, which have less dramatic blowouts if/ when they get punctured. Never experienced a blowout (yet..) with the tubed tires, but it doesn't sound very pleasant.
The 35 liter PD tank from the Monolevers is, in my opinion the nicest looking tank ever mass produced. It is worth paying the extra $1000 that the PD versions tend to sell for, you will have trouble finding a tank for that price. They just don't come up for sale that often. I've heard rumours that you can still order the older PD Tank from BMW, but never had that substantiated. Anyone ever had any luck with this?
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Can you not fit tubeless rims on an R80?
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Can you not fit tubeless rims on an R80?
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Anything is possible - given enought time & money.
However using off the shelf wheels - it is not possible to have tubless wheels on the monoleaver (I think that is what your post is about?). There was a paraleveler (tubless wheels) with an R80 motor .. did not sell well.
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