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Old 20 Mar 2009
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Unhappy New 800 GS Recall !!!!!!

Manufacturer: BMW of North America
Model Year: 2008
Models affected: F800 GS
NHTSA Campaign Number: 09V088000
Problem: BMW is recalling model year 2008 F800 GS motorcycles. The axle shaft wall thickness may not have been manufactured according to specifications. If the wall thickness was not sufficient, the axle shaft could deform and could break increasing the risk of a crash.
Corrective Action: Dealers will inspect the axle shaft assembly and replace or repair the necessary components free of charge. The manufacturer has not yet provided an owner notification schedule. Owners may contact BMW at 1-800-831-1117.

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How come this bike has so many issues? Failing fuel pumps, loose brake disk (recalled), when raining water gets into air box and bike stalls, bike occassionally stalls when fuel is low (but tank is not empty), plus cheap Chech chains and not adjustable front forks used for premium and expensive bike?
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BMW quality control has been a little less perfect for some time. There building bikes in non Germany BMW plants. There engineering bikes to look grate in a show room not work in the real wold. There building to a set price point set by there sales department not building bikes then having there salesmen work at selling a grate bike.

Seen it happen before people call it a world market and outsourcing. The fix is easy, just hope the new axle shaft is of good quality.
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I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

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I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

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Why does this not surprise me with BMW??
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Yes, new bikes occasionally have problems. Here we have a bit too many of them, but actually I'm more surprised that BMW has decided to bundle this bike with low quality chains and forks. They basically sell you budget bike that looks like premium bike, and they of course charge premium price for it. And salesmen are pitching something about "German quality".

I'm keeping one eye open as I want to buy another bike to complement my 400 but this kind of business practice is really something I can't stand.
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I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

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Too right. See:

R1100R/GS shock corrosion
F650 stalling and surging
R1150 brake servo's
Moto Guzzi FI
R1200 security key antenna...

And so on and so on.

I'll hold my hands up and admitt I'll let others do my research. I too used to have more money than sense, but after a while you trade one for the other.

The other rule IMHO is to look for the manufacturer who had a poor reputation for quality and made a huge effort to improve rather than the one trading in past glory. I find my Triumph and my dads Guzzi way better built than any BMW I ever owned (Carbed F650's and R1100's) and hear post 2006 Urals are close to BM airhead indestructability. Time for BMW to get off their pedastal and start working at it again IMHO.

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Unfortunately I must agree with you all. BMW is trying to copy Japanese styled bikes. The new bikes dont look like it suits the BMW badge. I dont like them at all. They are slowly moving away from building traditional BMW bikes.
It is a move they might regret in the future.

I like my 1150GS, although not perfect, its a bit more 'traditional' and less plastic.

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Too right. See:

R1100R/GS shock corrosion
F650 stalling and surging
R1150 brake servo's
Moto Guzzi FI
R1200 security key antenna...

And so on and so on.

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I note that four out of the five topics are the electronics that people keep saying makes bikes more reliable ?? so what gives?. If all goes well I shall soon be the owner of an Enfield. Thankfully the entire electronic ignition system ( black box and sender unit) cost £45, so I shall be able to afford to carry a spare system.
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F800/f650

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I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

I will never ever buy a bike within eighteen months of initial launch.

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Tim, I wonder why you say this when yo have a 2008 F650 you bought when they came out?? Please correct me if I am missing something.
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BMW and KTM are realistically the only companies pushing the boundaries of bike technology with most of the others falling behind, particularly in the big trailies. yeah we all know they aint real dirt bikes but we all know that 90% on here barely leave tarmac.

im no expert on ktms and japs but they all have their issues. japs for instance wear out parts, as opposed to fail, a lot faster. based on my experience my 800gs went through all manner of sh1te road conditions, rivers, sand for over 12000 miles and bar a rad pipe being replaced never squeeked, and i dropped it numerous time on hard and soft.

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Tim, I wonder why you say this when yo have a 2008 F650 you bought when they came out?? Please correct me if I am missing something.
I think Tim was saying that because he bought one and had some hassle with it. So he has learned from experience.

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The new Beemers are too complex

That is why I ride an airhead!
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My K1200RS is a very well screwed together piece of kit. I think they have shifted their focus onto mainstream bikes, and are trying to have some of that market for themselves. And why not?

The new K1300 has rave reviews too...
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