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Whats the best and worst year for F650's?
Is there a concensus on which year/model is the best overland BMW? How about the worst?

Anyone have the chance to notice any distinct differences in reliability and performance amongst the F650's from the last 15 years?

Any year/models that are total duds?

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F650 GS from 2000. Not happy with it. Parts break down without explication. Wouldn't buy one again.
Notice: Apprillia Pegaso used to have the same rotax engine as the F650. They recently swithched to a yamaha enigine. Reason...?


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Hopefully I don't have the dates mixed up...

I believe that the 2002 and later 650's were better then their predecessors of that generation (2000-current). The first bikes (2000-2001) were reputed to have a poorly sorted fuel injection system. I have heard good reports on the earlier carburated F650's (90's) in terms of reliability.

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Not seen or heard of any Aprilia Pegaso's with a Yamaha engine? Do you have a link to this information?

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F650 GS from 2000. Not happy with it. Parts break down without explication. Wouldn't buy one again.
Notice: Apprillia Pegaso used to have the same rotax engine as the F650. They recently swithched to a yamaha enigine. Reason...?

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I read in MCN recently that BMW have re-establiehd links with Aprilla - with the aim of a new F650 around 2007

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Hopefully I don't have the dates mixed up...

I believe that the 2002 and later 650's were better then their predecessors of that generation (2000-current). The first bikes (2000-2001) were reputed to have a poorly sorted fuel injection system. I have heard good reports on the earlier carburated F650's (90's) in terms of reliability.

I would suggest posting this same question on the 'chain gang' site as well:

http://f650.com
Have posted there,
Ill bring their concensus back here....
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Steve Pickford,
in new Pegaso, Rotax engine is replaced with engine from Yamaha XT660:

http://www.motorbox.com/Moto/VisteeP...ada_prova.html

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My Italian translation skills are crap. I can see a reference to the XT660 but that's about it.

Do you have a link to an English version.

There was a write up on the new Pegaso in last weeks MCN, I've just re-read it. It makes no mention at al of a Yamaha engine. The only changes listed to the engine are that it now has four valves instead of five (the XT660 has five?) & that the stroke is 1mm longer and that the engine is based on the older Pegaso trail model.

The write up compares the new Pegaso to an FMX650, DRZ400 & the XT660, showing photos of all four bikes. Whilst the photos are a bit fuzzy & not close up, there appears to be several differences between the Aprilia & Yamaha engines?

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in new Pegaso, Rotax engine is replaced with engine from Yamaha XT660:

http://www.motorbox.com/Moto/VisteeP...ada_prova.html

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You may be correct re: Yamaha engine in the new Pegaso. Something like this is mentioned in the latest Tourenfahrer? Like my Italian, my German is not good, I'll get my girlfriend to translate the article.
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Hi,

I was checking out the XT660 last Saturday down a dealer, and considering my size (I'm a small 1.62m) asked if the bike could lowered. The guy said no it's not possible but then he showed the Pegasus. He said it is exactly the same engine that the XT660. I wonder if anyone has done any long trip with the new Pegasus in last couple of years? Would love to have some feedback on this......
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You might get more of a response to that question in the 'Which bike?' Forum. This thread has started to stray from it's header topic, so those with any information on a Pegasus aren't likely to pick it up.
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