Hi It have been many a year since I have slept under canvas or rip stop.
as in the Army we used Bivvi Bags & poncho, (tent minus sides held up by bungees!)
I want a 3 man tent easy up down I got a very cheap 3 man from tesco my gf went to japan & lost it in the hurrican!

nbot botherd if domed, would prefer a portch then by the time u get in it put your helmet bootd etc no room that is why im saying a 3 man.

I have used a mini gaz ring with a tiny gaz bottle last abt a wek making 1 cup of t aday in morning, am thnking of getting a petrol cooker that way with a tank of petrol never worry suggestions please ta

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Budget?

On a tent and cooker, you could spend a bit or a lot, and largely get what you pay for...

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I can't see why anyone would buy anything apart from the Coleman dual Fuel cookers. (enlighten me if im wrong)

They're cheap at £50-£60, run on petrol, pack small without extras, hardly EVER need cleaning or servicing and pack a punch. I've had mine for 3 years, used it regularly and its never been cleaned or let me down.

It makes me laugh when you see all these people boiling water for tea at Ripley with £300 stoves designed for climbing Everest.

Coleman Sportster Dual Fuel Stove 2009 | CampingWorld.co.uk

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You never know: perhaps they climb Everest when they're not at Ripley....

Selous: if a stove budget of £60 is acceptable, also cast an eye at the Whisperlite. I had one and it never let me down, also only about 450 gr (exclusing fuel). Packs down small, too.

An example site so you can see it, but hunt around. Should come with a fuel bottle...

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Yeah... I'm sure they do !!!

On a more serious note.. How are those MSR's for blocking and fiddliness ?


I travelled with a few guys who had them and they seemed to spend more time cleaning, dissasembling/assembling and unblocking them than actually cooking.

Seemed rather "faffy" to me !!

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Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
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"faffy"? Not so much. It may need maintenance once in a while, but is is not complex to do, and 15 mins every few weeks is not so bad.... In areas with dodgier fuel, I think this is inevitable.

I choose to clean it once during our South America trip, but then we were cooking with unleaded petrol the whole time. White gas does burn a whole lot cleaner. There is a needle in the jet, so jet blockages are just a case of giving it a shake. Boil time about 3-4 mins

Fiddliness? nothing fiddly, really: unfold three legs, connect fuel, prime and cook....

You do need to open out the windshield, but is very effective and using it makes a big difference to efficiency, naturally....

I have since upped to a Primus Omnifuel: more fuel versatility, flame control, and more solid build. Indeed, I now will use either white gas, or propane with that. I'd only go back to unleaded when on a trip: sooty in the priming phase and questionable how healthy it is , even though the burn is probably complete, looking at the after-burner flame. Boil time is about 3 mins.

Down side is simply the cost: the coleman and MSR put together. I only got mine when Blacks knocked off a serious chunk in a sale.
I had an issue with a leak when coupling the fuel line and bottle, but I think I've ironed that out...

Don't regret getting it...

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I've had a Whisperlite since the early 90's, still use it regularly and have had very little trouble with it. The stove bit packs down to next to nothing but gets you covered in soot doing it. The fuel bottle doesn't pack down unless you stand on it!

Used with Coleman fuel it never clogs although with unleaded it does need cleaning now and again. Priming it to get it going first thing in the morning is probably the biggest hassle. It's ok when you're awake but first thing in the morning when you're still half asleep you're likely to take your eyebrows off with it.

Yes, but once that has happened you are wide awake and no longer need a coffee, so every cloud.....

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I'm with tedmagnum 100% - Coleman dual Fuel 533 - Wicked little cooker

If you plan to do any traveling by air don't get a stove with an integral fuel tank. I had my old faithful Coleman Peak I confiscated even though the tank was empty - because it still had vapors in it. Plan on getting your fuel canisters after you land.

Hi There,

The MSR Dragonfly is pretty much the benchmark as far as serviceable , petrol stoves go. However because of that they are a little more pricey than some of the competitors. We have had ours for about 5 years and have cooked more than 500 meals (plus hundreds of cups of tea) on it as we travelled around the world. The key is to make sure you bring the service kit which has all the spare parts. Often the poor petrol in some places around the world clogs them up and requires a little cleaning.

Hilleberg tents are also pricey but very good. We have the Nalo 2 GT and its been fantastic although when we got a huge snow dump in russia one end of the tent slightly collapsed which bent a pole.. don't think it was designed to have a 2 meter snow drift weigh it down