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Photo by Alessio Corradini, on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia, of two locals

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Photo by Alessio Corradini,
on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia,
of two locals




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Old 12 Apr 2005
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Here's what I would take:
- First Gear mesh jacket and pants
- Waterproof Goretex-lined jacket and pants (to fit over the First Gear)
- Polypro underwear
- Polypro sweater

Combine as needed. The First Gear will protect you in a get-off. It's ventilated and all the air runs right through them. Good for very hot climates. The Gore Tex layers and polypro will keep the heat in when needed.

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hi there

i can reccomend neoprene socks as well, i use them when i go fishing in winter, sitting for hours in the cold winter, and nice toasty warm feet, and if your boots leak no problem there made of neoprene therefore waterproof.

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Anyone have any experience with "Rev It" clothing out of Holland?

Pants or jackets?

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I have to agree with kberetta, if you can only buy one set of gear the cheapest most versatile option; buy a summer protective oversuit turaeg type gear lots of vents and armour,nice and light and comfortable.( not waterproof type as they always leak anyway - unless your spending a fortune), waterproof this with a replacable very lightweight nylon two piece oversuit( if you can afford it try to get a breathable and vented option, so that covers wet riding and hot day riding and protection.(also if its hot and wet you can open all the vents and slip on oversuit its the coolest option i have ever found) add to this silk t shirt and long johns, wool jumper, 100% wool socks (get wool/fox fur socks from scandanavia these are the warmest ever) and that will cover cold weather.Believe me natural fibres outperform man made stuff every time.( i do manual work outside all year on northern uk hills in all weather - i have tried everything to keep warm in the freezing, wet and wind up here. synthetics make you sweat then you get cold.) if you really want to splash out get a electric heated vest (About £100). I have years of riding in all weather, for winter I use a rucca suit(to hot in summer) I also mix and match leather with goretex. but tend more and more to use a gericke tuareg suit cost about £140 all together the type without any waterproof liner and carry a two piece oversuit from march to october in northern uk or when touring abroad. Remember most gortex products absorb water on the outside and become heavy and take ages to dry, the so called waterproof liners usually give up after a year so then the clothing is worse than useless and they tend to be heavy and hot for summer. Also claims of breathability are somewhat misleading as you sweat to death in them in hot weather especially in town or traffic.
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I've got a wax cotton Belstaff Trailmaster which is a bit long in the tooth but still quite water resistant. Its breathable and comfy and looks better the older it gets. Its a bit like a sauna inside in really hot weather but great at other times. When it really starts chucking it down I put my Goretex climbing jacket on over the top. Works great.
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My experience is different from adventue950 and davidmc.
Both my wife and I bought the BMW Kalahari suts with the Gore-Tex liners in January of 1997 and used them for 3 years 9 months, (61,000 miles)and never had any problems with the liners.
In October of 2000 we bought the BMW Savanna I suits but we kept the liners from the Kalahari suits to ues in the savanna I suits.
We have used the Savanna I suits for almost 5 years (95,000 miles).
For the liners that is 8 years 9 months (156,000 miles) and we have never had them leak.
The Kalahari shell did hold some water but not a lot. The Savanna I, if you shook it out a little hardly held any.
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If you get hot take the liners out.


adventure 950 said -
"Remember most gortex products absorb water on the outside and become heavy and take ages to dry, the so called waterproof liners usually give up after a year so then the clothing is worse than useless and they tend to be heavy and hot for summer. Also claims of breathability are somewhat misleading as you sweat to death in them in hot weather especially in town or traffic."
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Water and other substances flow down hill.
The pants liners go over the tops of your boots.
The elastic cuffs on the jacket liner goes over the gauntlet on your gloves.

davidmc said -
"The concept of the fragile gore-tex liner being inside is a good one, as it is protected by the rugged outer layer, but wet gloves are tough to prevent with this design. You may have a similar problem with an inner waterproof layer in the pants and water running into your boots, unless you can somehow lap the inner gore-tex layer OVER your boots."
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After this summer's heat we are going to get new suits, with more vents. I am getting The BMW Rally II and Jean is getting the Santiago
with new liners.
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bit more feedback, I think john ferris is probably 100% right in his breakdown of the bmw suit he uses.However what is the climate like over there and what are the costs of the BMW suit. Hugely expensive for a new rider. Obviously we have pretty contrary weather in the uk, not a summer season it rains a lot it can be hot,hot wet, cold and misty whatever all within a few hours of each other. if you have to take out an inner suit on a hot dry spell this means undressing, if it then rains do you undress again to put the waterproof liner back in the suit or if you leave it in is it cool enough on hot days?. I suppose you have to mix and match to your own choices but for me the waterproof outer suit wins every time - If your ever camping while travelling try having a wet outer goretex type suit in your tent it will never dry out and everything else gets soaked. a lightweight oversuit can be shaken virtually dry and stuffed in a bag. It all comes down to personal experience and preference and what you do with your motorbiking, what your climate is like etc etc.
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Hey guys,
i have normaly leather clothing but for witertime as well as for my trip to south america I had a Spidi Netstep jacked. The good thing about it is, that one is able to part the insulation from the jacket as well as one is able to part the gore tex (or similar) membrane seperatly from the jacket.

Therefor you will never have too hot or too cold. It is also good to fit differnet sizes. And it has reflectors to be seen also during night. It also rested a motorbike crash with a bit more than 100km/h in Bolivia with nearly no damage. Think about that.

Anyway, I was very satisfied with it.

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