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I dress to crash, not to ride, then hope I don't crash. Think of doing a face plant and skidding face down on the roads you ride on, then make your decision.
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ATGATT (all the gear all the time)
Perhaps try a cooler runinning full face or a flip front. Here in the states we can buy a full coverage flip front for the price of the helmet you linked to. I too have slid on my face and had lots of gear and a full coverage helmet on.....
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There's was a good 2 way discussinon a few months back here ...
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...d-v-full-33766
Lots of thoughts on both sides.
There is no correct answer, just lots of different opinions. For some the risk of accidents was far too great to consider an open face while for others the lessened experience of touring in a full face (nothing to do with how hot n stuffy they are) meant that you might as well go round the world in a 4WD if you must put safety first.
I have my own take on that discussion, but at the end of the day they are both totally valid perspectives and it depends what your priorities are.
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Originally Posted by ekaphoto
I dress to crash, not to ride, then hope I don't crash. Think of doing a face plant and skidding face down on the roads you ride on, then make your decision.
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I dress to ride not to crash, on account of doing more of the former. Seeing a hazard and reacting, being comfortable and therefore awake, not having your own smoke screen inside the lid (misting), making eye contact with the other drivers (rather than looking like a Dr. Who extra) all have their advantages and real world uses. Avoid the battle rather than wear the armour IMHO.
Yes, if you slide on your face at something like 35 mph you will be better with whatever Mr. Rossi is wearing this season, but don't live in the dream world of "I'm wearing £1000 worth of polystyrene and nylon weave and am safe". Any helmet is the 80% factor in not getting killed in a crash, the other features give 5-10% either way. Of course if the better protection is just as comfortable wear it.
Somewhere soon, someone who maybe feels guilty/smug for spending £700 on a Shoei is going to post a picture of a chap with no nose. This (in)famous picture is from a speedway track, so while it makes the point about the protection, it doesn't make the case against the vision/weight/comfort advantages of an open face on the road. There is no right answer. Go with what you are comfortable with.
Personally I wear a flip front Schuberth on the motorway, a Roof that can be worn open or closed for my commute and an open face for the city. When they invent a helmet
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I, too, have been considering an open face for riding my sidecar outfit (lower likelihood of low-side/high-side, I hope).
However, I have got two full face lids. One is a Motocross. If you want more cooling breeze, the defintely try one. Yes its noisier, but then so are open faces.
If you are not wearing googles, the the field of view is a lot bigger too. Have a try...best of both?
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It really does come down to personal risk assessment. If open face helmets didn't offer protection they would not be legal in the UK. Personally I own a caberg with removable flip front. In the summer there is nothing nicer then cruising with the front removed but I personally wouldn't hit hard fast A-roads with the front off.
If your just planning a lazy Sunday ride then the open face is perfect!
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