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I've got a Coleman Dual Fuel...
I only ever use Petrol and it works great (I put a cap of FI cleaner in the mix every 50 uses to keep the jets clean).
I've used Coleman fuel in it which is expensive. The only benefit I got was that it burnt without an odour.
Stick to burning petrol and as long as you're not in the Antarctic, you should be able to source it..
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I have an omnifuel.
It runs best on paraffin/kerosene, in that by using this fuel it runs longer than with any other fuel, also not too unclean. paraffin is also the cheapest fuel here. Not quite so hot as with petrol but is my preferred choice of fuel. sadly you can't run it down to a slow simmer without the heat exchange/vapouriser getting too cool and reverting to yellow sooty flame. to control heat you need to lower or raise the pot.
diesel works but takes a while to run properly.
petrol works but flame very hot.
gas untried as I have a little £10 gaz stove that runs on 270/470 cartridges, this is by far the better stove for cooking or a quick cuppa as I can simmer gently and can deploy in about 5 seconds. It will also run at low temperatures as these canisters are a mix of butane and propane.
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I like the idea of camping Gaz but I REALLY hate the environmental impact of having these disposable aluminium bottles in land fill just so I can have a cuppa.
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I think parafin/kerosene gives the best theoretical "bang per buck" cost but that's not really a massive issue really.
For convenience you can't beat a little Camping Gaz Bluet Micro or similar.
For ease of finding fuel and reliability it's got to be a Coleman; Feather or Sportster running unleaded.
If I'm static camping i.e. by van then I use a 70 year-old Radius parafin stove and a big old Primus/Svea. They run forever on a tank of Esso Blue so can be put into service to knock up a huge Chilli, Spag-Bol or Bunny Stew for a large group.
I jabbered again; in answer to your question...... Petrol
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I like the idea of camping Gaz but I REALLY hate the environmental impact of having these disposable aluminium bottles in land fill just so I can have a cuppa.
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I sometimes use the Coleman canisters.
They thread on to the stove, so in principle, they should be refillable. The packaging says recyclable, so I'm hoping that is the case. Very hard to know who to give it to, if it is to be refilled by Coleman or the like...
If gas is tempting, then perhaps that system is best for you.
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I like the idea of camping Gaz but I REALLY hate the environmental impact of having these disposable aluminium bottles in land fill just so I can have a cuppa.
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Excellent point but since youve burned hundreds if not thousands of gallons of petrol in your time as I have, isn´t there some kind of hypocrisy we both practice? 
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Excellent point but since youve burned hundreds if not thousands of gallons of petrol in your time as I have, isn´t there some kind of hypocrisy we both practice? |
Absolutely.... As with most environmental issues.
However. Unless I design some kind of perpetual motion engine, I don't really have too much choice with what I fill my bike up with. I could walk or pedal I suppose.
Camping gaz is just adding to our 'Throw away' society. It's un-necessary. Convenient yes.. Lazy yes..
Half way up Everest, no ones going to give you grief for using gas cannisters. Making a stockpile of non-recyclable junk at a weekend in Wales isn't really helping.
The same way people serve you Tea in Polystyrene cups when they could just give you a mug or insist on supplying thousands of individually wrapped sauce sachets when a bottle of ketchup would do just fine.
It's our brain dead society in action. F**king up our planet for ourselves.
It winds me up. Especially when you visit some of the most beautiful places the world and they're covered in rubbish.
I'm noooo wayy perfect or immune to it. But as travellers and lovers of the world/environment, we can all make a bit of a difference where we are able to. Cant we ???
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I hear what you're saying Ted. I have the butane canister equipped stove, along with a multifuel stove and the old Bleuet Gaz stove. I use the canisters on my motorcycle and bicycle trips even though I literally feel bad each time I throw one away. Which sometimes means lugging it with me most of the day until I can find a proper disposal site. The main reason they're so popular is that they're clean and convenient. I've sloshed Kerosene all over my bicycle panniers in Belize and White Gas leaked from the bottle on a motorcycle trip on rough roads. I wish they would make the Butane canisters refillable just like our propane tank out back.
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I hear what you're saying Ted. I have the butane canister equipped stove, along with a multifuel stove and the old Bleuet Gaz stove. I use the canisters on my motorcycle and bicycle trips even though I literally feel bad each time I throw one away. Which sometimes means lugging it with me most of the day until I can find a proper disposal site. The main reason they're so popular is that they're clean and convenient. I've sloshed Kerosene all over my bicycle panniers in Belize and White Gas leaked from the bottle on a motorcycle trip on rough roads. I wish they would make the Butane canisters refillable just like our propane tank out back.
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I think the majority of blame lies with the companies who make them. With a little expense, they could make them easily recyclable. Should be law.
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When possible and I have the time, I like to cook over a wood fire when there are just coals. Adjust the temp by moving the pan closer or further away from the coals.
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When possible and I have the time, I like to cook over a wood fire when there are just coals. Adjust the temp by moving the pan closer or further away from the coals.
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How do you move a saucepan or casserole closer or further?
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Comme ca mon vieux! New can now looking a bit more dinged and burned!
p.s I agree with you that gas is quick and a bit less messy and I tend to use that in my 4x4 (but still carry my Omnifuel) but on 2 wheels, it's always the Omnifuel.
The problem you have with simmering may well be due to your over pressurizing the fuel bottle. I am sure I've suggested this to you before 
Making tea is a Zen exercise and should not be rushed  !
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How do you move a saucepan or casserole closer or further?
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Left, right, forwards, backwards, up, down etc etc.
The possibilities are endless 
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I've got a Coleman Dual Fuel...
I only ever use Petrol and it works great (I put a cap of FI cleaner in the mix every 50 uses to keep the jets clean).
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Interesting, I should try that on mine (never cleaned it)
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Search on the net for how much heat the different gasses/liquids can deliver. I think the measurement unit is BTU, then find the prices and its an easy calculation to find the cheapest fuel compared to efficiency.
BUT cooking fuel is one of the lesser expenses, so who really cares ;-) normally the problem is finding the fuel, so you take what you can get.
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