If you really want to save on fuel when cooking, use a pressure cooker. They typically save 50% or more.

:-) (you definitely like cooking!)

Unleaded in a Coleman 533. No problems. The smell doesn't seem to taint the food and the convenience of being able to fill up from the tank is fantastic.

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An MSR cook set has a 'heat exchanger' that they claim improves the efficiency by taking the hot air that other wise blows away and sending it up the sides of the pot. It also is in contact with the pot and the air so it helps get the heat out of the air and into the pot.


Other factors to improve efficiency are
Using reflective screens both around the pot and on the ground. Some cook sets perform better with wind, others don't.

Weight -

The gas canister stoves are light ...if you only have one canister. Most people have two, one in use the other for when the first runs out.
The Coleman feather light (422?) weights more than one gas canister and gas stove, but less than the gas stove with one full canister and one half used. Add to this

the convenience of having fuel availability in most places
the ability to fly with it

I think the Coleman stove wins out. I find mine is easy to light once primed the first time, the next day I can light up with very little priming! That continues until I have to empty it for flying. For flying I find it best to empty most of the fuel, then burn the last bit as this removes the stuff in the pipes (that does not easily evaporate if you simply try to empty it totally. Camp.
As regards simmering, the stove does it much better than a MSR GXK hat I also have. And it is a lot less flare on priming(and the MSR wants that every time after you disassemble it for transport or an overnight camp.

The costs of heating are usually a lot less than the food!

Magic-Flame next generation ... most efficient wood stove ever
invented ..... with optional alcohol burner, but not needed.

found here: Magic-Flame NG Hobo-Stov Testwinner

We have purchased many, as income stream while touring..... it works.

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Is camping gaz really hard to find in S.America?

I used to use a Colman Multifuel and it was great and lasted a long time. But I was in Arabia and could not get a replacement generator (that icky that pre-heats the fuel). So I went back to basics with my old army stove which burns alcohol, I have two. I got a honey stove and an espirit holder, so can cook full meals and they pack down very small. I even made a burner out of a Axe deoderant can. Not as good but it worked.

I also have a small table top BBQ I got in Salta, Argentina. Great for charcoal/wood fires when I want, to save on alcohol and can find the fuel, it straps onto my top box perfikt.
I can use the BBQ as a stand /windbreak for the alcohol burners and I also have a plate for the BBQ to act as a food warmer.
The honey stove (S/S) will also burn just about anything including plastic but that is a bit hard to clean off.
I know this sounds a bit much, but I live on the road for anything up to a year when travelling.

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Then straight on till morning.

I once heated.....ok.... erm "warmed" a tin mug of coffee on my exhaust, so that's another vote for unleaded!

Hey seriously there's a lot of spare heat floating around on the bike must be able to use it somehow to heat food. Pastie in a tin can wired to the front pipes.

back on topic - Coleman stove with unleaded every time.

There was a chap whose name I can't remember did the German Winter rallies with a heat exchanger built into the outfits exhaust. Copper pipe took heat from the engine coolant round an insulated pot mounted on the sidecar chassis. It worked like a slow cooker, so one blast of the stove at breakfast time to do breakfast and start the crock pot contents gave him two hot meals a day.

Probabaly mentioned above but I've been playing with alternatives on my Optimus:

Panel wipe is a painters degreaser that costs about 1/10th of Coleman Fuel, has no nasties in it and actually seems easier to get. It burns well.

Gun Wash is a general industrial degreaser. This has very low heat generating capabilities and judging by the steam may even contain water which is unfortunate as my employers buy gallons and view it as a "consumable"

Andy

Does anybody have the Coleman Pulstar multifuel?
It looks like the lightest of the coleman multifuel stoves.
cheers and happy new year

+1 for the old 533's and their brethren.

I used an early Coleman Peak One on at least a twice-daily basis during a year-long horseback trek. Never missed a beat and I fed it a pretty varied diet ranging from Coleman Fuel, white gas, kerosene, and both leaded and unleaded gasoline oft mooched from other campers and travellers. Often these fuels were combined with one another, whichever fuel remaining in the tank was combined with whatever came available next.

I've had it for over 20 years and it's been pounded to death inside horse and mule panniers and on nearly every offroad or touring motorcycle trip I've ridden. The tank has never leaked liquid nor fumes in my luggage when allowed to properly shut down.

I'm a bit of a stove whore. I've got buckets of both the old standbys from Svea, Optimus, Trangia, etc., and a couple of "modern" rigs (Whisperlites, et al), all of which I've used at least a few times then parked them permanently, returning to that brick of a Coleman.

I only recently replaced the generator. Not due to failure, but because I figgered it might be overdue.

I've no idea how they compare with their more modern, lighter and increasingly more fragile counterparts in terms of fuel consumption and don't much care because they work. Just wanted to cheerlead for simplicity and ruggedness in whatever you may choose.

Maybe i have also to give my feedback here.

On our Trans-Africa we bought a new coleman unleaded and used with coleman fuel.



We had just two months, driving the west route. After 3-4 weeks the generator died (using coleman fuel).

We was not happy with the device. For short trips it is ok, but for extended trips it makes us mad. You have to clean the pan after each use, all is full of rus.

When you dont have unlimited water and stuff to clean and dry - you should avoid to use unleaded (also with the factory coleman fuel).

We bought a gas bottle with burner in Congo-Brazzaville - and dont look back.

Surfy

BTW: you find campinggaz bottles all over in africa

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Lizrd,
Like you I have beat the shit out of my MSR Wisperlight International and burned a little of everything in it.
The shaker jet works and you get used to the flame needed to get it rolling.

You can't break it unless you destroy the pump trying to rebuild it using the wrong instructions. There is a new style and an old style

A couple of days ago it wuld not run right so I completely stripped it on a picnic table, including the burner and cleaned everything with an old toothbrush. There were carbon chunks inside the burner after 15 years. I would suggest a periodic stripping and cleaning cause it's so nice when it runs right

It is running perfectly again.

One nice thing is the generator can't be clogged permanently.
And it starts in the cold or at any altitude and it burns HOT.

The weak point is the nylon pump otherwise it is bullerproof.

Many times I have emptied the separate fuel bottle into my tank to go a few extra miles.

BtW the fuel bottle is beat to shit, I use a 1 liter bottle. Sigg, no leaks but I think the MSR bottles are just as good.

Well that my story, my stove has been RTW thru Russia, Mongolia and to Sud America, all over the USA, to the Arctic Circle and so on.

My MSR Titanium Titan 2 pan kit is beat to shit too, keeps going on the stove and in the fire. No issues but the suckers have gotten real expensive.
bill

Mostly my eyebrows using petrol in that bloody awful Coleman I used to have!

The dual fuel ?? 533 sportster ??

Never had eyebrow moments on the few I've used..

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