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2 Nov 2021
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Originally Posted by Grant Johnson
Why?
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Fuel is easy to obtain.
No empty gas canisters to dispose of. (they don't recycle).
Nice gentle flame, minimal chance of burning food.
Slow-cooking... contemplative?
Nothing to go wrong with the hardware.
Lightweight.
Staggeringly robust.
Fuel can be (reasonably) safely used to encourage campfires.
You ask 'why?'
I ask 'why ever not?'
There really isn't a downside to Trangias.
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2 Feb 2022
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Location: Colorado
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I like alcohol stoves for all the same reasons, but...
With no valve to shut off fuel, they are not legal in US forests under extreme fire conditions.
If that alcohol spills, it can be impossible to put out. Spills of burning fuel are more likely from very lightweight, and somewhat unstable soda pop can stoves than the Trangia but (I think) still possible.
I have had spills twice from my alcohol stoves (despite being extremely careful with them). Water just spreads the fire.
............shu
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23 Jul 2022
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Location: Community of Madrid, Spain
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Camping gas in South America
Hello good motorbike folks,
I'm shipping my motorbike out to Chile to do the Ushuaia - Alaska run for 3 years from October 2022 to 2025. A cursory online search shows that a threaded 450g propane camping gas canister runs about $27 in Argentina (in Europe I can get them for about $7 -$8). I use gas canisters to make my coffee and porridge in the mornings mostly.
Has anyone toured here recently and could give me any tips about availability of camping gas canisters and if the price I found is indicative of gas canister prices there?
I wild camp 98% of the time and also have a collapsible "twig" stove that burns small pieces of wood and, well, twigs! It also includes a meths / spirit burner which I have carried for 3 years so far and never used (but I will if the gas is SOOO expensive!).
Finally, I also have a 110v single element electric cooker for when I have an electrical outlet (overkill, I know!)
Mostly though, I dig a Dakota firehole (when safe conditions allow) which leaves no trace and also carry a BBQ grill to cook on. I only say all this to save you time from recommending other alternative cooking gadgets, like JETBOILS and Coleman petrol stoves.
Well, enough of that. If you have any experience with buying gas in South America, I would really appreciate your help.
Thanks in advance,
Steve.
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