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Old 31 May 2008
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Poleless tent, any ideas?

Hey, I have been trying to find a tent without poles. One that uses the bike or a tree to give it its shape.

Anyone owned/know where to buy one and got an oppinion on how good they are?
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I would look for a "tipi" style tent. You know, with one pole in the middel or just a piece of string tied to a branch.

Personally I dont think it is a really good choice since the tents versatility is severely dented.

You will never be able to get it up in the desert (the tent I mean) and in very dense woods it might be a problem too.

Do you have a specific use for it since you want this setup or is it just an idea?
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perhaps a little backpackers tent, that you could tie to a tree or your bike? pretty tiny though. how about an inflatable dome tent? ive seen them about but they seem expensive and heavy and im not sure i would trust it. or look on the quechua website at their pop up tents, they do one now that folds down to 55cm diameter, but its not strictly poleless.

must it not have any poles at all? because you can make poles that break down to any length you need, you dont have to be stuck with what comes with the tent.
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Couple of thoughts off the top of my head....

A simple basha - tied one side to your bike and then peg the other down.

NATO Aproved Jungle Basha

(one place to buy one but there are many)

Another idea would be one of the smaller 2" tents - not what I'd take - but Stace is taking one with us to Russia - he's found a good way to put it on the bike. No poles - just 'pops' up.

Quechua : 2 Seconds Tents

Otherwise you could go with a simple bivi / swag bag

Biker Swag from the Aussie Shop (scroll down)

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Or a simple bivi bag

Bivi Bag (TracPac)

For total cut down no pole solution I'd suggest a bivi bag combined with a basha would be adequate - simple and fast to put up each night too - and if you use the bike as one side of the shelter - perfect suitable.

I just put together a simple video on tents - but funnily enough didn't include any without poles!



If you're interested in the swag option this video is about the Coolabah - but probably not suitable for your needs



Hope that helps :-)

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Khyam sell a "pocket tent" would pitch with two walking poles or fence/tree/bike.

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Khyam sell a "pocket tent" would pitch with two walking poles or fence/tree/bike.

Khyam Dome Tents01
Hey that pocket mono looks like you could use the bike rather than walking poles too - that's a really good option - cheap too.

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Matt,

I said "fence/tree/bike"

I have seen the Duo pitched between two road bikes with the entrance between the front wheels and a basha set up infront from the handlebars to the ground. It's what made me decide on my "little tent / basha combo". It was a bit of a squeeze for space for two but would be ideal for one man & gear.

I went for a tent that has poles though because I figured if I was working on my bike under a basha, I would want the tent to be free-standing.

I'll get some pickies next time I set up (no video though I'm afraid)

Bending and welding; making a luggage system for my Dr. Zed at the moment then I'll be off on some short trips to iron out issues.

Still got to learn to loose some stuff. I'm used to packing solo on a road bike so space and weight have never been an issue. I need to get away from the "everything including the kitchen sink" mentality.

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Matt,

I said "fence/tree/bike"

I need to learn to read to the end of a sentence.
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Hennessy Hammock

We have two Hennessy Hammocks and they are great fun. I have heard stories of people using them as their main abode on a trip, but I presume you will need to be te right sort of person. We are in 4x4 and hence have a roof tent as our main bedroom.

Search the HUBB as there are at leasttwo other threads about them.

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Those Kyam pocket tents look great and very affordable, I have been after something thats roomier than a bivvy but light for a while and these could be a good option.

has anyone got one or tried these tents ?

The only downside is the weight at 2.2kgs they are as heavy as some tents with poles and obviously much heavier than the ultra lightweight stuff.

I also think the camo option is worth the extra as I have often needed to blend in with my surroundings when rough camping especially here in the UK.

I think these style would sit perfectly out back of my hatchback using the car hatch as a covered cooking area/entrance.

While on the subject of lightwieght check out Winwood outdoor uk, they have some silly light weight stuff, well under 1kg. They also sell the spinikar sheet material so you could make whatever you wanted.

Also Go outdoors have a terra nova tent at under 1 kg for £120 its double skin and looks pretty good.

In my quest for lightweight I always end up looking at longevity over pure weight saving. I have started shaving of weight here and there but some of the ultra light stuff doesnt seem like its up to much.
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ive seen a golite hex 3 which is a small wigwam type tent thing. 2-3 person, the base is optional, hook in round the perimeter if you dont just want to sit on a sleeping mat. a mossy net i believe is also an optional hook in type thing.
pole wise it only needs one, or tied up to a tree. obviously a stick would suffice, or an extension to a walking pole is available to cut down further on stuff carried.

as well as hennessy, clark hammocks look good too. i just ordered one! the entry hole for a hennessy looked a bit claustrophobic for me. i know certain variants of both have a suitable bottom layer to be used as a small tent with a pair of sticks/walking poles if u have no trees. not partner friendly tho!!!

all are light and quick to stow and erect, and durable?
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Make your own - well sort of

There is a way to make any "old-fashioned" ridge tent like this:

into a pole-less tent. I was forced to come up with the idea when a pole got run over with mine, and all you need is a couple of bits of string. Here's how it works.

Take your string - nylon paracord is ideal, and firstly cut off two lengths about 6 inches long. The precise length will depend on the usual gap between inner tent and flysheet. You're going to make a loop of these with a nice big knot on the bottom so I'd suggest starting the first one long and working it out from there. ONce you've got two you're happy with crawl inside the inner and poke them up through the eyelets front and rear that the poles would normally go through.

Now take another long length of string, it'll need to be three or even four times the length of your tent. Again start extra long and cut down after. Starting outside the flysheet feed this string in through one of the pole eyelets, then through the loop you've just made for your inner tent. Continue the string along the inside of the fly's ridge, through the next loop of your inner and then out the other pole eyelet.

Now lay your tent out on the ground and peg it down round the outside of the groundsheet and flysheet as normal. Starting at the front lift the "ridge-string" up to the right height and tie it onto something convenient (handlebars, trees, wing mirror, riding buddy). Going to the rear of the tent pull the "ridge-string" taut at ground level and then move backwards away from the tent. As you do so you'll notice the tent lifts up. When it's reached the right height, simply make a loop in the string and peg this down. Of course if you can tie it to something else (see list above) you won't need to move so far away, but pegging down works very well even for the solo camper.

That's the absolute basic version which worked well for me for a few weeks, but there's plenty of ways to improve it for your specific tent with extra loops, toggles, etc. if you wish.

If anyone's feeling a bit confused I could get the tent out and do a picture guide as soon as it stops pouring with rain.
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Airzone Tent

I have one and it's great, not as light as a Hennesy Hammock but a bit bigger.
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tarp you mean?
it got the design of a animal skin shape, and can be tied down without poles.
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We have two Hennessy Hammocks and they are great fun.
I'd been thinking of going for one of those myself until I realized I'll be doing quite a bit of treeless-travelling around southern spain and north africa... so I'll probably go for the khyam mono or a swag (I'd go for an Oz Tent but I'd have to either ride side-saddle or break a few width restrictions for motorbikes).

Anyone know if the biker swag (from theaussieshop) is waterproof? It doesn't say so on the site (while it does for the other two), so I'm guessing it isn't... :confused1:
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