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**ChrisFS** · #1 19 Oct 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Johnson

Any "air" mattress without fill is going to be VERY cold underneath. You need something for insulation, such as down or a synthetic fill.

It'll only be used in warm sunny weather so the cold doesn't really bother me too much. Besides I can use one of those reflective pads for underneath if needs be.

**tmotten** · #2 21 Oct 2016

A: it if my interpretation that you suggested there is no camping besides bush camping. You can rest your doubts
B: it is my understanding that all hennesy's had bottom entry as had mine.
C: fabrics need to be certain thickness to carry a person which is by design heavier than a canopy
D: you misinterpreted my restriction comment but whatever
E: Whatever dude.

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**markharf** · #3 21 Oct 2016

Your short-tempered moderator says:

C'mon. It's been a long day, and I'm tired. If you're tempted to insult another member, give some thought to how wearying it will be to delete your post. And if you're prone to poking and prodding in a manner which often attracts insults from others, please stand in the corner with your nose against the wall instead.

Thanks.

Mark

**xfiltrate** · #4 21 Oct 2016

Markarf,

Thanks, I thought I stood alone defending myself, it is finally good to know for once a mod is on my side.

xfiltrate

**tmotten** · #5 21 Oct 2016

What wrong with pegs?

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ta-rider · #6 21 Oct 2016

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Originally Posted by tmotten

What wrong with pegs?

Serios??? You cant use a tent wich does need pegs on a ferry, a garage and other hard grounds. Why buy a useless tent like this if you can also get a Highpeak Texel 4 tent?

**tmotten** · #7 21 Oct 2016

Can't is a big word. I tend to ride with another so that is at least 3 tie down points. But there are also sand bag pegs (dunno the official names), bricks, whatever really. I never thought to camp on a ferry. But with a bit of rope you could be creative. But I guess if that's a criteria, to camp on a ferry or concrete floor in a building, then no. It's not a good idea. Personally I would not encounter a situation like that.

That Highpeak is a bit heavy though.

ta-rider · #8 21 Oct 2016

Why looking for a plan b if you can buy a tent that can stand on hard ground anyway? Sand Pegs are heavy as well but 3gk for a tent dont matter on a 200+ kg bike. Comfort and space is what matters on every day use...

In Thailand i used this for 3 months. Light, small and cheap: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Iglu-Zelt-Kup...cAAOSwdzVXn1iL

**tmotten** · #9 22 Oct 2016

3kg is huge. On any bike. Particularly out wide and back. If it wouldn't they put more shit on at the factory.

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**tmotten** · #10 22 Oct 2016

But that's why I don't ride a 200+kg bike. Not much fun to me. I find 300 pounds too heavy.

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**PatOnTrip** · #11 29 Nov 2016

It seems some people are ok to carry heavy floor pads.

Have look at Thermarest's "camp and comfort" product line. Some mattresses are 4" thick.

Patrick

**cliffspicer** · #12 15 Mar 2019

I use a sleeping pad, but many people put them under their sleeping bags, but I find it's too easy to wake up and have my face on the tent floor and the sleeping pad over somewhere else because I don't lay perfectly still all night. What I do is put the sleeping pad inside my sleeping bag and I sewed a thin sheet so that the pad slips right into the pocket I created with the sheet. This way the pad is always under me and the sheet makes it comfortable and it packs up small. Just an idea.